Huh? Yes, I'm talking about Inverse Kinematics in P6. Still drives me nuts after all these years. I had really been hoping for a switch for turning IK on/off without having to go in for every new figure loaded and switch off EACH LEG separately. So tiresome. Aaaarghhhh... And that blasted figure circle! I never, never want to see it again. But it's always there. :] Fish