What is happening to Renderosity !! the Galleries seem to have nothing but scantily clad women and nymphs these days or just really BAD ARTWORK.... and to add insult to injury people are saying how great some of it is and in reality its just crap. A lot of the members on here need to learn the difference between plopping an object on a page and calling it art or actually designing and implementing a piece of art. Most of the work I do takea days like some of the other real artists on here but for gods sake stop applauding people that bang something together in 5 minutes and upload expecting all the accolades of a real artist... Its time that Renderosity started looking at perhaps paid subscriptions and we can start to see some quality art being shown in the galleries again as opposed to the onslaught of titties and undies that seems to make up most of the images these days. I used to enjoy the quality of Renderosity but of late it seems to have really dropped off.. so until you can weed out the non art and pornography thats more and more evident on here Im outa here and will happily pay the yearly subscription to Deviant Art to seem some quality comments and what we are all here for SOME QUALITY ART Im outa here

This oughtta be good. 8 ) Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”

I know that someone paid $50,000 for a urinal that they could have bought at a hardware store for $50. They paid that much because the urinal was on display at an art gallery and was told that it was art. Paying for a subscription does not guarantee good art. It just means that poor people are excluded from participation. I doubt if that will create good art. The fact is that we have a range of people here. Some are novices, and some are professionals, and some are talented amateurs, and they are all sharing space in the galleries, and, if we get lucky, the novices learn from the more experienced people. I don't think Renderosity is meant to be a sanctum of art elitists...it is meant, isn't it, to be a place to learn and share. No, I don't have a gallery. I took mine down when I realized I had no talent. But I defend the right of the novices who are still working on their skills to participate as fully as those with more developed talents. Should I be excluded because I have no gallery? Or should I pay in order to be an audience? I know what your answer would be. Art is practice, practice, practice. This is a place where people come to practice. And I have seen people grow over time and the person you think is ill suited to be here to day may turn out to be the 3d equivalent of da Vinci in another few months. We'll never know unless we give them a chance. We can help people learn and grow. Or we can shut them down because they aren't perfect the first time. Which is healthier for the community? I'm probably wrong. I'm not an artist, and I don't pretend to be an art critic. But the day this community is closed to all but the art elite is the day I stop supporting it. Which is no great loss, I know. Except to me.

One "no" vote from me on subscriptions. The stuff they post in the galleries may not all be masterpieces, but people have to start somewhere. With any luck, they get better over time, and a big part of any community is the ability to share your work with others.

ok.
for one a really good pin up takes ALOT of work to do.
to get luminosity of the flesh..the soft gilded glow to the highlights the cloths to fit correctly or the post to look valid. the joints correct and to get something nice and not just vulgar.
not all nudes are pieces of crap. and someone assumeing it took five minutes to toss one out is insulting those that bust their rump for hours on end to get something that works.
Yes there are works in the gallery that are slap dash and then hailed as masterpieces. but I take offence to you making it sound like nudes are crap.
it takes ALOT of work to get one to look nice and not like some playdoh posed figure of a humanoid.

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To play that old record again: The last time i looked, posting bad-art was not a violation of the Renderosity TOS. And again you see something come by that is attempting to ban bad-art from Renderosity. And again it is a bad idea because it will exclude people who might be not as good, beginners who have yet a long way to go and plainly people who have a good time with making and posting picture. A subscription to RO is no garantuee for good art. Participation in the forums, giving honest critics, helping the newbies will help but only if the other side is listening. That's a point that should be worked on.

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I don't know why you think Renderosity used to have high quality art.

I've been a member here since 2000 and I seem to recall it was always naked Posette and later naked Vicki who dominated the galleries.

I do agree that there's a lot of crap in the galleries, but that's nothing new by a long shot.

Don't believe me? Check out R'sity's all time "Most Viewed" (which goes back to 1999).

In fact, now that I look, I see a couple in the Most Viewed that are TOS violatios as of the latest changes. shrug

bonni

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"To play that old record again" Sigh...I concur. AS

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I can make an urinal picture for 25,000$. Ok.., for 20,000$ you can take the picture and an urinal prop!

Stupidity also evolves!

Thinking this member is more upset about wow comments given to poor work as opposed to more well done work. Another hot twenty complaint kind of thread. But that's always happened at Renderosity. Won't ever change that. Pink pony once proved it and the problem is still there more than ever.

Sigh, not this gripe again. What maybe crap to you may not be crap to others. There's alot of beginners and yeah, I'm one of them that are still learning. No need to insult folks that are learning or if the art isn't to your liking. I think some of you need something new to gripe about. Devart is a crap website where they all are too busy patting each other on the back and sucking up to get comments. It's a joke at best. I've been to that site. It's a tight little group of artist that think they're god's gift to the artworld. I've seen crap art on their too. and the day this site goes subscription to post artwork is the day I'll be outta here. I've spent far too much money as it is on my Poser habit to have to pay to upload artwork on top of it so if you're that rich and can afford it then by all means go pay to upload your art somewhere else. :) (my humble opinion)

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Well put, imo. AS

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To quote something my art teacher in high school said "Art is about expressing one's feelings or telling a story without words." Not all of us were blessed with talent, but we deserve the same chance for a creative outlet. By who's standards is this "real art" you speak of anyway? A pay site won't insure quality. It would just exclude many wonderful artists who can't afford it. That would be a travisty, to deny them a place to release their emotion and reach out to touch someone else who may be feeling the same.

after seeing the most viewed link.. all I can think is.. "My god. it's full of tits"

Hows about this? http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=698564&Start=1&Artist=takezo3001&ByArtist=Yes This is the closest that I came to posting a nude...IN a temple no less LOL!! This particular piece took me TWO WEEKS to complete, and there's NO post-work {Not that there's anything wrong with that, I just don't have My pen yet! 8P} I custom morphed the V3 char, did the background in bryce, produced ALL the textures (save for the V3 char}using custom P5 matirials,and even converted a CONFORMING cloth for the cloth room,with a general system/program crash every 40 renders!......And I STIIILL only recieved only 228 viewings......But I ain't complaining..Grumble, grumble,grunt,grunt...EErrrr...ok just a bit...Hee hee! I DO sympathize with You though, It IS kinda IRRRatatin' to have 90% of V2/3 clothes with only the Damnably default/stock morphs included, I just wish they'd include more morphs other than 400+ boob-morphs! it does seem that everythings made for the Cut&paste style that folks like o use! And to those that DON'T fall into that catigory then I'm not referring to You! I don't mind the cut&paste method, just realize that it should not be the "Norm" for everybody!...By the way I STILL love renderosity, TOS revisions, and all!

Oh yeah, I'd have to give HHAAIIILLL-NO! for the idea for turning this place into another PAY-SITE!

I'll 2nd that "hhaaiiilll-no", lol. AS (mod)

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welp, I dont do nudes or half nudes of V3. What I do for art I think is pretty modest. Maybe that's why I hardly get any comments LOL. Not enough T & A in my artwork. ;)

How do you get to Joe's Diner?

Well....you take a left out of here.....drive about a mile, and then get onto Route 66..........it's just over there on the right after the first light that you come to.

It's a popular place. Lots of people eat there. From all walks of life.

Even guys driving pickup trucks with gun racks. And those High Art types from the studio next door, too. And some grandmas that work at the teddy bear factory down the road.

Makes for an interesting atmosphere, sometimes..........but everybody's welcome to eat there.

And there's no cover charge to get in.

BTW - some people don't like Joe. I don't understand why.

But he sets a great table. Bon appetite.

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You can't miss the place. It's the one with more cars in the parking lot than any of the other restaurants in town.

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I for one LOVE's ME some greassy-spoon joints, It's some goOOOD eatin'! Y'all come back now, 'Ya hear! ;^)

Joe's Diner features an eclectic menu. Everything from greasy cheese burgers with fries to pheasant under glass and brie. Take your pick. It's located in the country music capital......but a lot of Europeans and New Yorkers eat there right alongside us truck-drivin' southern redneck types. Interestin' ambiance.......but I like it, y'all.

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HEH,heh, You said it! Talk about ecletic! I've dread-locks down to My arse,(don't like reggae too much..go figure!} grew up listining to 70's radio, heavy/thrash metal, japanese folk music, Chet Atkins,Joe satriani,and now Johhan Sabastion Bach, as well as Major artistic influances as Charles M. Shultz,Frank Frazzetta, Norman Rockwell, AND the God-like Rembrant! Yeah... looks like I'm stuck here! LOL! ;^)

BTW the BEST song on the planet...Ramblin' man By the Allman Bros! First heard it at 7 yrs old, never been able to get it out of My head!

And those waitresses.........! Funny thing, though. About 90% of them are named Victoria.

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There's nothing like derailing the topic which is what usually happens in the forums.

;-)

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Especially when it's a topic that's worthy of being derailed.

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Well it's a good metaphor for the gallery if everybody gets a turn at cooking a meal at Joe's Diner and some are better at cooking than others. Some like their coffee black and others like to dress it up with cream and sugar or fancy latte's and expressos. There's room for all kinds of tastes in the galleries. Making it a pay site won't improve the art since it's practice and talent that makes artists better not just money, if that was true Bill Gates would be a better artist than Boris Vallejo.

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Especially when it's a topic that's worthy of being derailed.

I shoulda took bets on how long it'd take you guys to derail it. McDee's is better for food. :) Time to get a BigMac & Fries. Message edited on: 04/15/2005 14:27

Well you can still bet on how long it'll take to lock it, last 1 was only 12 hours

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LOL. I was just thinking that.

"Time to get a BigMac & Fries." You've never seen the movie Super Size Me? I haven't been to McDonald's since.

Faeries and nekked poser elves when the TOS hammer came down! Meanwhile there's still a nice young faerie picture introducing the poser forum and more than plenty of young poser girlies for sale on the rotating banners in the most provocative displays. May as well cover all the basic same olds in these repeat threads. Heard the funniest review today. They claim that the new Amityville Horror movie is so bad, well, there's nothing worse than a really bad remake of an already bad movie! How's that for derailing? I prefer Harvey's.

The novel was ten times better than the movie. Maybe if they did the movie like the novel it would have done better. I loved that novel, when it first came out it scared the hell out of me. Another remake of 'Amityville? Shuddering at the mere thought. :D On a side note: why dont these orginal posters of these topics ever come back? lol.

Wondering the same thing Birddie...They ALWAYS come in...stir the pot then vanish....

I guess they achieved their goal...stir the pot...start a flame war... Prolly a regular, under another nick is my guess ~eye roll~

YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Maybe the venting from the 1st post got it out of their system, unfortunately it seems that other have an inexhaustible supply of venting to do, so these threads continue long after the equine has been ground to bits

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So true Argon...that said..if I ever vent...it's never over in one mere post LOL......Venting for me is rare...all depends on my mood ;) I've learned for the most part...when the irate mood strikes...STAY AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD!

Interesting thoughts on venting. In the winter I close the vents upstairs so I get heat downstairs. In the summer I close the vents downstairs so I can get things cool upstairs. Vents are great because they allow heat and cold to spread around the home. Without vents we would either freeze or squelter in the heat. There's vents in my car that turn up and down and sideways too, also a bonus. Did you know that we vent from our mouths and also from our butts? Both are a real relief too. One should never try to prevent venting for very long or one might explode, or even worse implode!!

It's always a good idea to use dangerous chemical substances in a well-ventilated area. The forums are a well-ventilated area. In fact, the forums are just about the most well-ventilated area that I can think of.

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They claim that the new Amityville Horror movie is so bad, well, there's nothing worse than a really bad remake of an already bad movie!

I don't know all of the details......but I've also heard that the original -- supposedly true -- Amityville story was actually a total fabrication. And that strong evidence supports this.

The original Amityville movie was a pretty big hit in its day. It spawned I don't know how many sequels -- 7? 8? If I cared about it, then I could take the trouble to look the number up, I suppose.

In any case, the "true" story that the movie is based upon is likely a fake. Made up for publicity/money -- or some other such reason. If so, then the fake story has achieved its intended purpose.

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I think I know what happened. Someone wanted to vent about some old run down house on the street that was depreciating the real estate in their neighbourhood. Wasn't doing any good to vent and be rid of the horrible home or hide the fact it was there. So all the people got together and made the ugly eyesore into some awful haunted place that would attract the right kind of attention and next thing you know there's Amityville 2024 and then some, and everybody in that neighbourhood is now richer than ever, even if they only owned a haunted anthill in the area! In fact, I heard the ants drive ant porsches and wear ant spats. People love believing in the unusual and odd, and spending lots of money on it, and what can you expect from the masses when they would even spend five hundred a head just to get a glimpse of Michael Jackson walking into a courtroom, so what does that tell you about people?! Bet you the locked threads get more views than all others. If we say the right stuff here this one will also get shackled. Sell hot dogs and nachos while you can.

Just do a Google search on the terms amityville house hoax and read for yourself. It's almost certain that it was a hoax, designed to sell books and gain notoriety. In fact, there had been a rather grisly murder scene in the hosue some time before (several members of the same family), and that might have given the owners who concocted the haunting story the idea, but in any event, there's very good evidence that the haunting was a hoax and just about no evidence of any paranormal activity (well, there are people who study that sort of thing). Just FYI. bonni

"When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch." - Bette Davis

The excorcist was also based on a true story. Someone's spoiled kid had a hissy fit and they made it into one gruesome demon time! Wonder how she turned her head around like that? And that green slime stuff, see what happens when you make kids eat all their vegetables?

Well that's what I originally came to the forum to check on. But OMG... I came across this thread and is has had me thoroughly LMAO!! Applause!!!

lol- Hollywood is allways looking for original ideas. They say there are only 5 basic story plots. Before the 'Omen' there were no satinist. No ritual murders, no goths...blah blah blah It was sainer to live in a world of science then it is now in a world of magic!

"Before the 'Omen' there were no satinist. No ritual murders, no goths...blah blah blah" Before poser there was no dork, no demon baby, no hot twenty, no big breasted Vickies with swords by temples, no complaints about a TOS banning faeries and nekked imps, no constant complaints about too many comments on poor work and not enough on the rest. See how life works in silly circles? It always takes something to make something happen, good and pretty or bad and ugly. As long as the world is turning, and someone is having fun jingling their keys in their pockets, who cares? When the jingling creates a hole, go buy new pants!

The original Amityville movie was a pretty big hit in its day. It spawned I don't know how many sequels -- 7? 8? It did? I was just a youngin then. I barely remember going to the movie and after I saw it said I would never see it again, yeah, it was supposed to be a true story. But, sometimes I wondered about that. Omen, the orginal was awesome. The ones after that sucked. Hollywood needs to stay away from sequels because they can never get it right. and I cant believe this thread isn't locked yet LOL

Sequals are not always bad, some have been better or have added to the old, Mad Max as an example, Alien as another. What they have to stop doing is so many bad 'remakes'. They hardly ever work and are as bad as colorizaton, it usually destroys the original movie or takes away from it big. There are exceptions I guess, like Titanic. Consider remakes like PSP tubings only with permission and you know what to expect, just lots of added sparkles and blinkies and once in a while if you get great actors and a revamped story making for a shocker hit; but most of the time it's just a money grabber on something familiar that worked before and might work again with some added twinkies. Ever notice that once big hits end up on DVD rental shelves there's zoodles of clones released just before or at the same time? Isn't the imagination something?!

I believe that several of the Amityville sequels were direct-to-video schlock that never saw the inside of a multiplex theater. In some cases, the plots had absolutely nothing to do with the original story -- the producers just slapped the name "Amityville" onto the box in order to sell a few extra copies of a dreary excuse for a movie...........

On the other hand, I've heard it stated that Amityville II was actually a better movie than the original Amityville Horror.

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Getting back on track with the topic at hand, I have to agree with a comment above that when I really get steamed, tis better for me to stay away from the keyboard than to hurt anyone else with it - sometimes the more PO'ed I get, the better my renders turn out to be ;) imagine that LOL - some of my best textures and images have come out of extreme moods.

As for making this a pay site, as the saying goes "if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." If its pay to play, then only those with $ can play - and on that note, I concur with some of the opinions above. I'd be outta here on the next bus if that happens.

My work may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but heck, without Poser and the like, I'd be more psychotic that I am now LMAO ;) - Cheers!

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"I used to enjoy the quality of Renderosity but of late it seems to have really dropped off.. so until you can weed out the non art and pornography thats more and more evident on here Im outa here and will happily pay the yearly subscription to Deviant Art to seem some quality comments and what we are all here for SOME QUALITY ART Im outa here" Is it just me, or have we all heard this before?

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" ~George Orwell

Amityville II was a better movie, it probably was the reason why all the sequels happened. So you want to see scary?? Here is scary!! Someone posted this on another similar thread now locked, no doubt why they probably finally locked it too, the shame, the disgust, the horror of such a picture!!! I'm surprised poser would even render it! Still throwing up my beer and popcorn after seeing this..

we've always had our share of naked vickies in the temple, but we also have some amazing art here. You take the good with the bad. And people do have to have someplace to learn.

Talent is God's gift to you. Using it is your gift to God.

Amityville II was a better movie, it probably was the reason why all the sequels happened. After seeing how bad the orginal one was, I stayed clear of the sequels. and that image you posted totally grossed me out. LOL.

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The best sequel I've seen was about the Amityville Toaster that was auctioned off from the house. It was haunted so that if you put in white bread, you got out wheat toast, if you put in wheat bread, you got out pumpernickel toast, if you put in a bagel, you got out pork chops and if you put in waffles, you got out a toasted human hand.

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Umm... Is the thread about The Amityville Horror or RR being a pay site??? LMAO! Time for my 2 cents worth! No1. My question would be... "If this place would only support "REAL ART", then who decides what real art is??? I don't claim to be an "ARTIST", that is a name slapped on me for uploading. If someone wants to call me that fine, I am just here to learn and have fun. This place has been a life saver for me, mainly because of the wonderful and diverse membership. Yeah,lets turn this into a site for social reform!! That is sarcasm by the way! No2. All of the Amityville movies were crap!! The book was so much creepier IMO! But I love to read and play everythin out in my head, always better than a movie! :))) Thanks for letting me ramble and posting my "non-art". Tammy :)))

"Umm... Is the thread about The Amityville Horror or RR being a pay site???" Well, looks like this thread like many others lately is just about ANYTHING!!! Isn't that GREAT?!! Popcorn? Beer?? Wine?? Whines??? Avon??? Stepford Wives??? Stepford Husbands??? So..you wanna hear the Shortest Fairytale Ever?? Once upon a time a guy asked a girl "will you marry me?" She said "No" And they both lived happily ever after. Isn't that AWSOME?? And Jar Jar nude is soooo GROSS!!!

LMAO!!! I only want a Stepford Husband when mine leaves the toilet seat up! So I guess I'll lust stick with what I have. Beer, popcorn and a nude that ISN'T Jar Jar would be nice! ;)

All of the Amityville movies were crap!!

Read the novel 'first' before you see the movie. Just as badly done as 'Flowers In The Attic' film. The book was a must read and very well written while the movie sucked even worse than Amityville. Back then, I don't think they knew how to do movies from novels. I think they wisedup after the flops over the years. I Best stop because I'm starting to show my age here!!! :D Message edited on: 04/17/2005 17:50

" LMAO!!! I only want a Stepford Husband when mine leaves the toilet seat up!" Why is it wrong when guys leave the seat up, rather than wrong when women leave it down? What is the default position for toilet seats? Mick ;)

Well now that you mention it pearce, I don't think there is a default position. LOL! Guess it comes from living with a husband and two boys. I kinda get left out of everthing! Hey Birddie! You aren't the only one showing your age! LOL! Tammy ;)

Separate bathrooms is the only answer! That way we get our seats left down and don't have to clean up all the dribbling mess and the toilet paper roll unravels the way we like it!!

HAHAHA! Great idea! Do I have to clean their bathroom too or can I leave them with the unsightly toilet bowl ring and flies?? ;)

For centuries, the foremost differences between men and women have been clearly and abundantly illustrated by the constant, boundless conflict relating to the appropriate disposition of the toilet seat. While, on the face of it, it would seem that this struggle should be absurdly effortless to resolve, neither side seems prepared to find the middle ground. And so the hostilities carry on. The chief criticism women appear to have about men is that they never put the toilet seat down. This seems, through some bizarre, unexplainable process, to result in the aforementioned women sitting on chilly porcelain, or worse, plunging into the receiving water and becoming inextricably ensnared in the clutches of the Johnny. No doubt a fear-provoking and mortifying encounter, the results of which are to render the previously delineated men's lives a living hell for weeks at a time. Personally, I fall short of fully comprehending this predicament. My solitary, plausible deduction is that there is a particular, hitherto undiscovered visual handicap which affects only women. A handicap which prevents them, by some means, from looking downward before they seat themselves. As anyone who has ever relished the thought of lounging in the recliner with a frosty beer and two hours of professional wrestling, only to plop down upon an unexpectedly infuriated, bloodthirsty cat has learned, there is clear-cut and lifesaving significance in examining the anticipated seat before utilizing it. But, due to some astonishing brain impairment which seems to occur to the female of the species at birth, this capability seems to have been mislaid. Attendant to this handicap is an out of the ordinary side effect which occurs only in the heart of the nighttime. You've witnessed it, surely. The female awakens from a cozy, comfy bed in order to avail herself of the facilities. But, due to the aforementioned handicap, she is seated in a manner which evokes her grim discontent, whereupon she returns to the bed and wakes the male from an unassailable slumber in order to make it undeniably certain that he knows and comprehends the foregoing ugliness and will be primed for the comprehensive range of malicious repercussions. But let us scrutinize this situation. Where did we go amiss? How did this misfortune transpire? Well, it's that side effect we mentioned. Remember, it's the middle of the night, it's dark, exceedingly dark, and the female of the species is merrily heading for the facilities, oblivious to the catastrophe which is approaching. And there you have it. Any standard, undamaged human being, in the darkness which is attendant to the hours of night, has no difficulty utilizing a marvelous up-to-the-minute discovery called light. To smooth the progress of this phenomenon of the inventor's shop, architects have, after years of dialogue and dispute, placed trouble-free switches in proximity to the vestibules in each and every lavatory. However, the brain damage suffered by the female sex seems to additionally paralyze their arms and hands once late night hours have occurred, making it unfeasible for them to make use of these spectacular electrical devices which would greatly enhance their capacity to glance down before they seat themselves. Well, there you have it, eh wot? Dash it all, it's nature. Quite frankly, however, were I a person of the female persuasion, I expect I would be quite appreciative that various men even go to the trouble to raise the seat UP before managing the business at hand. Think about it.

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So why should we women touch the seat after you men put it up to take a wiz? They should make a spring coil we can attach to toilet seats so they just jump back into place after 'he' forgets to put it back! tynana, why should we clean his thrown? After a while, maybe put some dysinfectant and insecticide beside his toilet as a reminder for when things get too harsh and outhouse like. Did you happen to hear about the guy who went to some popular coffee place and had to take a wee and while he was enjoying a good splash the toilet seat fell on his winky? He tried to sue for aching bruises, not sure how that went. So what the heck was he so close for? He must have been either hugging the toilet or trying to rinse it off!

Heh Heh, Good one Ron Tom

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bones,.....I love it.

LMAO!!! LornaW, you are absolutely right! I am officially on strike! No more scrubbing grundgy toilets for me. No sir, no way no how! Does anyone else have boys?? Do you have the problem of them not lifting the lid?? Just when you think it is safe to sit on the toilet!! LOL!! PS. This thread turned out to be a lot of fun! :) Tammy

Do artists pay to have there stuff hang on a wall in a upscale gallaery? No. Do musicians pay to have ther music played on a radio? No. I'm a new artist here and it disturbs me greatly that you want Renderosity to be a subsciption members only club. If you think your art is so great then why not set up your own website? The idea of this site is to help those folks like myself to enjoy some feedback and get tips to improve our work. Renderosity should stay free. Period!

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Hey Birddie! You aren't the only one showing your age! LOL!

LOL. What's even worse is, I can remember when I first saw the Orginal Star Wars and wondered what the heck Star Wars was. And all the bad 70's movies that we used to watch. LMAO!!! ok, raise your hand if you're a rich person and have artwork on Rendo???? Message edited on: 04/18/2005 13:58

@LornaW: Let me get this straight. A guy is going wee-wee in a coffee houses' toilet, standing I presume, and the lid falls on his willy, smashing it between the lid and the rim in the process? I've heard of well-endowed, but OH MY GOD!

Well LornaW - I don't like to brag - but... LOL :)

If he wasn't hugging it or rinsing it, he must have had quite a wanger!! Wish I knew whether he won that lawsuit?? Getting back to the original cake of all this, if you have to make it a pay site to be able to say this place has just great work or to get comments, that's pretty bad. Just as bad as Willy with the wanger making a lawsuit for his own splashing blunder! If I joined cookie club where women of all walks got together to bake and create cookies and share dessert recipies, it be real fun, but if some of us started thinking we were the cat's meow and our cookies were just too good for your avwerage cookie club and it's time to pay up if you wanna be in our club, why do find that just like we're having to pay to be giood cookie bakers?? Kind of takes away from all the fun and reality of it all and makes it seem like those great artists are just fooling, er, buying their own greatness. To suggest that making this a pay site will make this place only have good art, well, that is just as bad as getting all your friends together to vote you in and go wow on your work and make you look awsome and the greatest!! It's just sad! Serority anybody?? Are we gonna play tricks on the potential members too, or make them do dumb or bad things while on trial before they are accepted or allowed to be here or pay to post that incredible terrific art?? Pay toilets are a slap in the face too, especially when you really have to go and have no cash handy, ouch! Poor people have to hold it in while the rich get to pee whether they have to or not!

"HEY - I JUST INVENTED THIS NEW THING THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO GET OXYGEN UNLESS THEY PAY MY SORRY A$$ A QAURTER A BREATH!!!" <- Shades of a scummy ultra-capitolist future, VIVA LA SOCIOLE!!!... LOL :)

Be careful with those CAPITALS, it looks like your trying to yell LOUDER than everyone else and that could cost you extra if ths place were to go paysite. CAPITAL tax!! By the way, pay toilets are happening. Wonder how long it will be before someone makes you pay per pee or per weight of number two, and base the cost on how long and how much and charge per sheet and quality of toilet paper or maybe they'll just add a blow dry?

Pay toilets have beenaround since the 1920s - but that still don't make it right! lol :)

If everybody scrubbed the toilet after they used it, and brought their own paper supplies, then companies wouldn't need to charge that quarter for a public toilet, would they? I'm thinking that if people had to pay for each membership account, then the number of clones would drop. This would help deal with HOT20/AOM votes and gallery trolls and people who keep coming back no matter how often they are shown the door. Something like $10/account name might be reasonable. If you keep one name over 5 years it is peanuts, but if you and your 20 clones are trying to disrupt the forum, it might be enough of a hurdle. Carolly

Poor people have to hold it in while the rich get to pee whether they have to or not! Rich or poor if you had to hold it in for a long time you'd explode. :D

Rich or poor if you had to hold it in for a long time you'd explode. :D Actually, the famous 16th century Danish astronomer, Tycho Brahe, died of a burst bladder. He was dining with an emperor or king or someone (can't recall which one) and the custom and etiquette of the court demanded that no one could get up from the table until the lord did, and Tycho had too much to drink and waited and waited and waited and eventually his bladder burst. Or so goes the story, anyway. (He probably actually died of mercury poisoning, which has symptoms consistent with uremia, but back in the early 17th century when he died they had no way to test for such things.) bonni

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I wonder what would happen if we took a poll to find out how many people really cared about the HOT 20 anyway? Personally, I don't worry about it, but it is a goal for some. Of course I guess I could go back to the beginners gallery and get in that way. LOL! ;) @elizabyte I didn't know that you could really burst your bladder, I thought it was kind of like the holding your breath until you died legend. You would pass out first, or in this case, pee yourself. :)

Hey hauksdottir - I'm poor! - I can't afford to pay for a memdership right now because I DO NOT OWN A CREDIT CARD ANYMORE - AND WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ONE AGAIN FOR QUITE A WHILE!!! But - hey - guess what? I promote renderosity, I offer freebies, and I contribute in other ways -and what I do also gives other "not so well to do folks" something free to use to. Now if you want to facilitate the trollers, and what not - and give them the POWER to screw every body else over by giving folks like you the license and excuse to behave in an efite,elitist manner - well then - you've ultimately done nothing short of aiding and abedding exclusionism,whereby IRREVICABLY DESTROYING the spirit of a tolerant,and INCLUSIVE community. In short - you've become A DRAG, A POISON PILL, AND THE QUINTESSENTIAL PARTY POOPER!!!

Am I to understand "h" - that you are now offering to pay for something that would otherwise be FREE to you? Isn't that financially masochistic?

This would help deal with HOT20/AOM votes and gallery trolls and people who keep coming back no matter how often they are shown the door. Something like $10/account name might be reasonable. If you keep one name over 5 years it is peanuts, but if you and your 20 clones are trying to disrupt the forum, it might be enough of a hurdle. Hard to say if that would even work since you don't know how much the trolls are willing to go through are you? That's only using money as a filter to exclude the ppl that haven't got it. It sounds to me like treating a hangnail with an ax, the cure being a lot more damaging than the disease. Would it be worth it to pay for what the services provide? IMHO they'd have to offer a lot more stuff for a paid membership to be worth it and no clear indication that it would improve the community, since paying isn't a solid motivation to induce the kind of behavior you mentioned.

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Guys, Just a reminder to please keep things civil. This has turned out to be an amusing and fun thread, so I don't really want to lock it. Disagreeing with others' viewpoints is great, but please talk about the opinion and not the person, okay? Thanks. Karen Moderator

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AL2005 Says QUOTE really BAD ARTWORK.... and to add insult to injury people are saying how great some of it is and in reality its just crap. UNQUOTE You Probably wouldnt know art if it jumped up and bit you on the arse!!! People put images in the gallery probably to share with people to show how they are going with learning to say what you said is like a slap in the face to any 1 that can create a lot of people but not all care about how people come along in there progress.

This thread is no longer fun. I just had a post deleted. so bye, bye. ;)

Maybe it didn't take, a glitch, happens a lot.

I heard clones mentioned?
How can you elliminate clones here, since many merchants and artists and other folks here use clones just to mingle or vent or have opinions or to help out on the forums?!
If folks here were themselves all the time, with the way these kind of forums are, and the hotheads at times over the smallest warts in a thread, you could find yourself out of business or backballed or the worst artist of the month in no time at all without even trying to upset anyone or anything!
Just from having an opinion, you could be a smeared forum member, tarred and feathered and fed to internet limbo.

As for genuine trolls and moles, they will always be here as on other forums whether it's pay or not because they don't really have much else to do and usually have too much time and money, and unfortunatly far too often they're friends and enemies are here and they want to belong or just live online to upset.

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Hmmmm.... I'm not fond of censorship...unless it violates state laws(Kiddie Porn,etc). I'm not fond of elitists. This place is ~supposed~ to be for everyone. If you don't like someone's work...move on to the next piece.Maybe it's just not your style. By the way,to the individual who began this thread...You've got some nice work up.Not my style,but still very nice.It indeed shows great effort and talent. As does most of the work I see in the galleries. How's about cutting folks a break,folks?

As for bursting baldders, they say the bladder is the most stretchable organ in the human body, it would really have to blow up a LOT to burst and you would probably just pee yourself silly before that happened. Looks like if enough pay toilets happen, we may start looking at a new line of absorbant diapers for us all, lol!

Maybe it didn't take, a glitch, happens a lot.

Nope, a mod deleted my post, who obviously didn't get the humor in what I had posted, lol. No biggie. Guess censorship applies to some people's posts on here but not others.

I'm not fond of elitists.

Me either/agree with you.

This place is ~supposed~ to be for everyone.

Not if the elitists had their way.

My 2 cents worth.

I'm also entitled to my opinions, but mine, have the habbit of being deleted. Welp, this thread was fun while it lasted. ;) Message edited on: 04/19/2005 18:55

Did you get too personal or direct your humor at at someone specific? See, now, that's probably why so many members would have clones, so they can clown around or be free and fruitful without getting their real membership into trouble and losing the respect, dignity, popularity and noteriety they may have and wish to keep here. Imagine a well liked hot twenty regular or AOM or MOM making faces or complaining or having a biased opinion or going "neener, neener" here on the forum boards?

I was told I was being 'catty' whatever the hell that means? No big deal. don't want to get into it. ;)

Let's just say: I now know who the site 'pets' are.

::shrugs:: I have one other account on here, now closed and if that's the big stink a certain someone is making about me then I dont understand the fuss. I wanted to change my screen name. If I could have closed the account or got it deleted I would have. This is my main account now. I dont have twenty accounts here, just this one.

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As for bursting baldders, they say the bladder is the most stretchable organ in the human body, it would really have to blow up a LOT to burst and you would probably just pee yourself silly before that happened. Well, yes, which is why the story about Tycho is probably only a story. He did die of something that looked kidney or bladder related, but as mentioned, it was probably some form of mercury poisoning (he liked to dabble in chemistry; the theory is that he made himself some sort of medicine that was full of mercury). You're most likely to just pee yourself when the sphincter opening finally has too much pressure on it and gives way. But it's still a fun story about Tycho. And he really DID get his nose cut off in a duel over a mathematics problem! bonni

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Beavis: WALKS OUT OF CLASS: " I AM CORNHOLIO. I need TP for my bunghooooole. Bunghoooole! ... (ENTERS GIRLS BATHROOM) I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO!!!Come out with your pants down.. Whoa... that was cool heh heh. ."

"What do you do? You squeamishly go looking for a quiet spot behind a bush to do your thing. You cautiously avoid the poison oak and ivy. As you carefully squat down and try to relax a snake suddenly comes slithering through the weeds and startles you. What a mess!" Oh, Lorna, that was terrible! I bet nobody rear-ends his truck (or even follows too closely). The problem is that most of us can avoid the poison oak and curled-up snakes... it's the mosquitoes which make a quiet trip to the bushes difficult, and this device won't curtail them. The other problem is that one would have to drop one's trousers on the road, and passing motorists would perhaps have something to say about the view. Nah, I'll take my chances behind a tree. Carolly

Speaking of ducking behind trees, I was 18 before I knew guys could pee sitting down. I had a lot of, uhm, experience with men, but not of that variety. I was utterly astounded when I found out! Probably TMI, but it kinda goes with the whole potty theme and all... ;) bonni

"When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch." - Bette Davis

Some guys claim they can't sit down to pee because their personal pride will get dunked or worse, flushed! I think most guys well overdo their size. Most of them probably can't find it sitting down and get scared, lol!

I sit down to pee-but only when I have to do #1 AND #2 at the same time - and I'm too darn lazy to do the "musical chairs" standing - then sitting down business.Seems really stupid to assume two different postures when you gotta do both. I have - I'de guess - an average sized weiner (EEEEEWWWWWWW! NA-STY!!!) - and I'm not afraid to admit that. I don't lie to impress people because - well, the size of one's picnic frank really ranks as a footnote to me in the "things to be proud of" list. It's not like at your funeral they'll be saying "Well - he never really accomplished anything particularly substantial with his life - and most of the time the guy was a grumpy bastard anyway - BUT HEY - HE HAD AN ENORMOUS CROTCH FREAK! THE DUDES TUBE STEAK WAS ROCKIN BABY! THE GUY HAD A LAP DRAGON LIKE YOU WOULDN"T BELIEVE!!!" Come on people - reeeaaaallllyyyyy...LOL :)

Coming from a different culture, I sit to use the facilities as a matter of habit. I just like to raise hell about the whole toilet seat thing. Making rosity a pay site would lose my participation.

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Making rosity a pay site would lose my participation.

I don't think that will happen anytime too soon. There's plenty of other services on here to pay for. Rendo isn't starving for money. They have the MP for that and the banners to make money off of. They are not foolish enough to piss people off by charging for membership.

I'm sure this site would emptyout fast if they did that and then where would they get their content from?? The handful of paid members?? The gallery would be empty & so wouldn't the marketplace. They wouldn't be able to turn a profit.

That's what I find ironic about some of these posts. they have no clue how a website biz is run. And, I doubt that the ones saying to make it a paid site wouldn't actually pay for it, in fact, they'd be the first ones to leave. Message edited on: 04/20/2005 10:51

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Alright everybody, please stick to the original topic, this is not the place to discuss some of the things I have seen above:) I don't want to have to lock or move this thread but if we continue on this derailment, I will have no other choice. Thanks Stacey Community Manager

Sorry - the mood was getting a little derisive and grim - so we interjected some humor.LOL-Ok-everybody please stick to topic please.lol...