Okay, my two bits; do with 'em what you want. Yes, this has been posted at PoserPros as well. I've had P6 for about a week now. The original disk came in corrupted, but CL was great about getting me a new one, including a call from Julie to let me know it was en route via FedEx. On the plus side: -- James is a serious hottie. Right out of the box he has that whole 21st century trendy thing happening, and it doesnt take much to make him look even better. The musculature around the mouth is much better defined, and the shoulders DONT LOOK LIKE BOWLING BALLS. -- Since I never worked that much with P5, this is my first time seriously diving into the Hair and Cloth rooms, and I was happy to find both of them are pretty easy to learn, with remarkably good results. -- The render engine was a little slow, but I didnt see it crash on Firefly. I really liked the fact that I could separate the working window from the render window, although always having the last render in the render window was sometimes a little disconcerting. -- Overall, it's a neat little program. Even with a few bugs and errors, I'm impressed. But... I'm sticking with 4, for the moment, and while that seems terribly old fashioned and dinosaurish, I guess it comes down to the simple fact that, for the kind of image I create, most of the bells and whistles of 6 really dont help me much. Actually, there was a thread here about which version folks prefered, and one poster sarcastically wrote, "Hey, let's go back to plastic hair!" Well, y'know, I do use plastic hair, and it looks pretty good for the characters I work with. Follicle based stuff looks great on James and Jessi, but TTTT it looks remarkably stupid on Ichiro. Sure, P6 has some great lighting effects, but again, they wouldnt enhance much of what I can already do in 4, so they seem somewhat useless. The cloth room -- sure, it might be fun to create outfits with gravity and wind, but, for now anyway, they're not that useful in my still images. Maybe when I get the animations more sophisticated, but not right now. I guess, like everything else, it comes down to what you want out of these proggies. It's sorta like one's choice in cars, I suppose -- mine is pretty basic and straight forward, because I dont need Italian leather seat covers or a five CD changer or even cruise control. It gets me where I want it to go and back again, and if it's done that, I'm happy. Well, same with Poser. If vers 4 does what I need it to do right now, there's not much inclination to leave the plastic hair and limited lights behind in favour of fancier tools. That'll no doubt change some day, and I have the program, so I'm ready for the switch. But for now... I'm sticking with 4. BTW: if you have Maconverter, be aware that will now transform files into P6 ones. If you're using both P4 and P6 on the same machine, this can be a nightmare.

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