Old, ancient Chinese way of thinking talked about The Ten Thousand Things: The Seer The Seen The Act of Seeing(perception). From The No-thing, came The One, from The One came The Two and from The Two came The Three or The Ten Thousand Things- another way of describing 'this material world'. Do you follow? So far, so good, but what do these ancient Chinese say about where the Pain and the Suffering come into play? Well, with only The Two-no pain and no suffering, they say. The Seer and The Seen are One and the same. Comprehend? The Ten Thousand Things must then generate the pain and the suffering??? Do you understand? "Look at that dirty, filty, homeless person standing on that street corner", she said, with a tone of disgust in her voice. Ah-Ha! - The Three! How would-The Two fit in this example? Well, the Seer would See the Seen as itself and that would be it-Acceptance!! Maybe.....these old Chinese were talking about the pain and the suffering found in practicing the fine art of - Value Judgements, because (1)The Seer, (2)Sees, (3)The Seen as some-thing different, seperate and outside of itself. You grasp that? I ask you, "Can you make it through a single day without one of these?" "Hummm...,I just don't know???", I suspect, as I shake my head and rub my chin. You see?