Hi, Im sure this has been asked before... but is there a modling program for an utter 3D idiot? I have tried Milkshape, Wings, Ray Dream, Sculptor Pro, Amorphium and I just can't manage to do anything with them. I can do a little with Anim8tor but not much realy. I think I just can't grasp this way of working conceptually. I can make very complex items out of primatives... stuff that has actually sold without anyone knowing that is how I made them. I got Metaforms which I thought would solve all my problems, the way of working is just like that of using primatives, and it doesn't have the problems that Wings and other mouse control based apps have for me - I am disabled with motor imparement - the main reason I use Poser instead of painting much any more... I can do most things with dials and menues. But Metaforms places the vertices of shapes randomly which leads to terrible artifacts on any edges no matter how you sub-divide. I saw an application but I can't recall its name, that was supposed to let you paint forms into mesh but it wouldn't run on my PC, something to do with accelerator cards and I sure don't understand cards. Gigahydron Oxigen looks nice but it is not clear to me if one can creat compound objects in the program or if it features primative... but the bottom line is I just can not afford it. Voxel 3D looks interesting but there does not apear to be any smooth surfaces to what you create with it. What I want is something that would let me place primatives against each other and in some cases fuse the joins. To make ellements with a lathe or spline would be nice too. One idea I have is to make figure .cr2s of things built with Poser primative and edit them in Morph Master or something like that, although that doesnt real help about welding edges... using Posers export to do this is very agrivating since you have to break the model up into weld and not weld parts but in anycase the weld doesn't have that nice curve to it at the join and it render poorly. Any ideas?