The front bee is definately standing on the flower petal, and yet is causing a shadow to fall on the leaf. The sun is almost straight on as well, which makes it doubly weird. I know it is the bee causing it not the ladybug, because I tried turning off shadows for both. Can't leave it that way though because the bee didn't look right without the little shadow it is creating on the petla. Any way round this apart from postworking the shadow out?

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Make sure you don't have an wayward bee you aren't seeing. Are you turning off the shadows for all the bees at once, or just that particular one? Otherwise, post-work it out, I say. :o/ AS

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Weird. Could the light be going through the petal? Why aren't there petal shadows on the leaf? Are your petals set to cast shadows?

Render your scene as if it is complete, with the shadow for that particular bee "turned off". Save the file. Turn the shadow back on for that bee, and plop render around the bee on the flower only. LOL, and this is coming from a postwork looneytoon. Cool Image cho!!

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I'm having trouble getting a hang on the shadows cast. Would a transparency setting of some kind, bee causing that effect? Side Note: Definitely. Is this word spelled differently in the UK? Because I see 'definately' a lot. Not trying to be critical of spelling (I'm the world's worst typist) just curious.

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After looking at this over and over....I think you've got the wrong bee. If you look at all the shadows in the scene, the bee that is casting the shadow in question is out of the scene behind and above the view of the camera. But ya know what they say.......Only the shad....Nevermind,LOL.

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I don't think that shadow is from the bee on that flower, I think there's a bee outside the FOV casting that shadow.

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Aprilgem has found the reason, thankyou. I had actually turned shadows off for the front flower, so the flower is not casting shadows, but the bee sitting on it is. Mind you that is a weird situation anyway. Thanks for the help. And Bandolin, I am ashamed to say you are right and I have definitely typed the wrong spelling.

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(laughs at everyone!) I don't know why, but this might be the funnest thread I've seen for a long, long time! Bee-shadows are fun? WHAT?!? (must be something in the wine...)