Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Need Shoe Help???

Starkdog opened this issue on May 09, 2005 ยท 14 posts


Starkdog posted Mon, 09 May 2005 at 9:52 PM

I made a set of sandals for SP3, and finally got them to conform, but they still do not behave like the freebie flipflops for V3 by DAZ. I set up the groups just like DAZ's V3 flipflops, so that the sole will act more naturally, and the strap stretches, but it isn't doing so. I've included a pic of what is happening. Both V3 in the green sandals and SP3 in the pink sandals are in the same pose. How do I get the sole to not bend with the foot? This is a conforming figure, and not a smart prop. Thanks, -The Starkdog

EdW posted Mon, 09 May 2005 at 10:58 PM

They will follow the foot unless there is a JCM or some sort of ERC. Check the DAZ version and see where they used ERC. I haven't looked but I'm guessing there is a JCM located in the foot body part. Ed


Starkdog posted Mon, 09 May 2005 at 11:03 PM

Hi EdW, Where would I need to look for the JCM? In the Joint editor, or buried in the cr2? Thanks for the insight. -The Starkdog


byAnton posted Mon, 09 May 2005 at 11:36 PM

Its in the cr2. You would have to delve into text editing. Poser doesn't yet have any erc/cr2 editing window. Pssst: CL, You should have one in Poser.. :)

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Starkdog posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 12:21 AM

Ok, I've been digging through the cr2 for V3's morphing flipflops, but what is the indicator for JCM/ERC morphs? I can follow along for part of the cr2, but then it just gets confusing. What should I be really looking for? Thanks, -The Starkdog


byAnton posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 12:42 AM

At the beginning of the cr2 you will see: actor rFoot:3 (the 3 can be any number. But note what # it is.) Seach for: Figure 3 (or whatever number is being used) That will take you to all the erc paragraphs.

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Starkdog posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 1:59 AM

Ok, I see that, but what do I need to change? I am ignorant when it comes to this ERC/JCM stuff, and I need to know exactly what I am supposed to be looking for. I have attached a pic of part of my cr2. Upon comparing the V3 flipflop cr2 vs. my SP3 sandal cr2, the only thing different is that the V3 flipflop has morph paragraphs for wedge heel, platform, and geta style heel morphs. -The Starkdog

byAnton posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 2:06 AM

I don't have that product. It can be rigged different ways. They might have erc the shoes to the female figure directly. Serch for: Figure 3 or Figure 1 I would need to see that section. it will show you what dial is being slaved to what.

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Starkdog posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 2:25 AM

Hi Anton, Check your IM's, I just sent you one. I can't post my cr2 here for dissection because it is way too long. I found some info about JCM/ERC morphs in the tutorial Arcana section at DAZ, so I will continue to look for the silver bullet. -the Starkdog


byAnton posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 2:51 AM

I don't have mil figures installed but I will check your IM and offer advicce if I can.

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EdW posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 8:30 AM

Ok... I was looking around the cr2 a little. The whole bottom part of the sandal is toe and the strap is the only part that is foot. They really aren't using any erc. There is a PBM for the foot and toe called GetaSandals, but it's not slaved to any of the rotation channels. The sandal works simply by bending the toe body part. There aren't any blocks so the sandal will go the other way to... meaning it will go right through the foot if the toes are bent down. The bend channel of the toes use a spherical falloff zone that contains the entire bottom part of the sandal so it will bend it as a single piece.


Starkdog posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 8:39 AM

Thanks EdW, Now that makes sense. I figured that it might be something along that line since there were no ERC/JCM channels for that. Just out of curiousity, how could I make a "block" so that the sole does not protude through the foot? Would this be simple to do, or does that involve quantum nuclear mechanics ;)? Thanks, -The Starkdog


EdW posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 9:02 AM

Just a guess here, but I think I'd make a morph to bend the toe part of the sandal down and leave the rest as is. Slave it to the bend channel using a valueparm to limit the morph so it only works when the foot is bent down. Shouldn't be too hard to do... but then some things that should be easy aren't when it comes to Poser:)


Jim Burton posted Tue, 10 May 2005 at 7:50 PM

If I was doing it I'd think I'd fit the sandal to the toe, with a ghost part (or bone, if you will) working the other way (back tward the foot) to bend only in "down" (where otherwise the sandal would go through the foot) Ingenue Vickie's sandals have a "loose" morphs, per the pic, incidently but it is just manual FBM (it also has to do the strap). Could be hooked up to ERC, though.