Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: How to Get that Right Smile?

ashish_s_india opened this issue on May 14, 2005 ยท 11 posts


ashish_s_india posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 3:02 AM

Hi, I just got Ultimate Face Morph Pack for Jessi! The problem is I can't get Jessi smiling right. If anyone has some tips on which morphs to tweak or a screenshot of thrie morph dials (Or a link to the tut on using the damn morphs), Plz Help. Using P6. Jessi Ultimate Head Morphs. Trying to get the smile in the Pic below. Help. http://www.ringtones-top40.nl/wallpapers/CameronDiaz/66.jpg


stahlratte posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 7:50 AM

I dont have P6, so I can give you only general advice on smiles.

I found that for a good smile you have to widen the mouth/lips as most "smile" morphs usually just raise the mouth corners, which gives a kind of "sour" smile.
Also try to raise both the mouth and the nose a bit, and don't forget that eyes are smiling, too.

NEA-Smile1.jpg

stahlratte


lululee posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 8:24 AM

Nice smile.


ashish_s_india posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 9:07 AM

Well, I understand what you are trying to say stahlratte, but it needs to look real (& graceful). Have seen some work in schmoopy's gallery and in the poser->pinups gallery. How do ya get that?


Casette posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 9:24 AM

Cameron Diaz. Yum. Yum.


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pigfish9 posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 11:03 AM

A good source for displaying emotions in 3-D characters in the book "Stop Staring: Facial Modeling and Animation Done Righ" by Jason Osipa (ISBN: 0782141293 $32.99 @ Amazon.com). Smiling pretty much involves your whole face. Your nose wrinkles up a bit, your lower eyelids wince a bit, the groves at the sides of your mouth deepen a lot and you mouth does go out and up. The book has a great section on getting eye poses to look natural, too.


Casette posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 11:47 AM

... or a good mirror ;)


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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"


danamongden posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 1:21 PM

I've found that one of the keys to a "realistic" facial expression, whether smile or frown/etc., is to break from symmetry. Make it a lopsided grin or tweak the left and right brows differently. Rarely do we "morph" our own faces in symmetrically. Just my 2 cents... but I second the advice of the mirror or a quick digital self-photo with the emotion you want.


ranachronos posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 3:29 PM

A good reference book I've found is "The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expressions" by Gary Faigin. Explains the muscle groups involved in each basic expression, how they're attached to the skull, how their shapes change, etc.


AntoniaTiger posted Sat, 14 May 2005 at 4:38 PM

It depends on context, and if you can establish that even a completely zeroed expression will work. So try reducing the dial values a bit.


nickedshield posted Sun, 15 May 2005 at 12:28 PM

Another thing to look at is the teeth. How do they relate to the type of smile? A perfectly good smile can be destroyed by poor teeth position.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.