...just out of curiosity -- has there ever been a photo gallery page without a flower photo on it?

yes... in the dead of winter :]

....nope - Cyn - if it's winter here in this hemisphere - it's summer in the other - nice try though! xo

go back in the archives... i'd give you the link but the gallery won't hold still :D

...I like flowers...and pets even...honest!..( had a dog once... one day I came home and he was gone ! ...."Scotty" was his name...my dad gave him to the dog pound ) .... but good gracious there are other things in the universe to photograph.....( braces for onslaught ) --ah -well - just trying to cause trouble ......it's in my nature.

LOL... I agree with you unstrung. Something I have felt about this gallery for a loooonnnnng time. But there is something worse than a flower or a pet photo. It's a flower or a pet photo with tons of viewings, an EXCELLENT rating, and many "votes." (setting up the wall for the tsunami from those who disagree) It seems this gallery is becoming more about "cute" than creative.

.....thanks Mr Devious --- now we're cooking ! -- prepare for a donnybrook - the flower defenders are coming! ( batton down the hatches - hide your pets! )

A Donnybrook is it! Ha!!! I am Pentuianus, Defender of the Flower and Floral Frock. I wish upon You Anti-environmentalist...much Hay fever and I hope Your Staminas will never give off Pollen again, and no Hover Fly ever lets You Reproduce! You....You.... Pansys!!!!

...er --- c'mon Mr Devious Moose - where are you when I need you!!??? ---- we've been challenged by the 'beloved tender high commander! ' -- this is worse than I thought! --- never bargained for this ....and my hay fever is already advanced ( Oak trees - I think ) ---anyway - we've got to lay back - regroup and take him on..... look for weak spots between his thorns ... ( * salute * ) ----- surely there must be some 'blue meanies' out there to come to our aid ??????

I think it is because flowers are so easy to take, and if there is nothing to do or if you cannot go out somewhere...the garden is the choice to practice the shutter.

"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."

...yes -- but you must resist the temptation --venture beyond your gates into the world beyond -- resist their natural beauty & scent -- be strong -- and if you fall under their spell and trip the shutter - then resist posting it -- give us a flower free gallery page!!! ---is that too much to ask ??..... join the movement..of...well --- two at the moment - and I don't know where this Moose character has gone -- probably to bed.....which is where I am going --- I'll take up the battle tomorrow.....

LOL i went out and did a flower shoot today for practice was going to post one tommorrow now i think it might be that sheep.... LOL AT TEDZS!! very clever and creative!!

kimmers ♥ :O)

So here....

"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."

I don't think flower photographs are easy at all. I only dabble because I do not have the time, or more relevant the resources to do the subject justice. There is the problem of finding the good specimens to photograph to start with - expensive if you use a florist and you will have to build a good relationship up so they save you the best ones without flaws, or you could grow your own, very time consuming and expensive with the care they will need. You need to show photographic skills in: lighting, exposure and good composition to get a decent picture out of it when you have your specimen. No excuses either because in most part you are in total control of everything, even the movement of the flower with the light while you set up, unlike some other genres of photography. If you do all this choosing backgrounds, lighting, getting the exposure and dof right the subject shows up every flaw your camera has which in some genres it is easier to get away with. I would love to have a good quality medium format camera to do the job properly, but most of us have to manage. Compact cameras and most dslr's are not really up to the task, but this is a hobby and it still fun trying and getting the best results you can with the equipment you have. Maybe one day when I am able to afford to have better equipment, then I am sure what I have learnt now will come in handy. None of the genres of photography are any easier than any others, they all require skill and learning to achieve the best results.

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And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html

Nicola...I don't think ANYONES images should be ridiculed! Everyone takes photos for different reasons, of stuff that catches their EYE, whatever that may be. The galleries are there for sharing these images, no matter WHAT your level is (Beginner to advanced) Noone should hesitate to post or ask for feedback/help in general here. We can all learn from each others images, Points of view and perspectives.

That's what it's all about in my book!

Joe

Message edited on: 05/22/2005 10:03

Attached Link: http://www.joycetenneson.com/index.html

A woman whose work I greatly admire.... and one whom I consider to be the consumate photographic artist. Author of many photo books...... some of them about flowers.

Hey I like flowers, and still photograph them once in a while... even though I've moved beyond "pretty" in my "serious" artwork.... flowers are a gift, and their beauty is fleeting.

Ok in defense of unstrung, I can see the humor in it.... in fact I laughed when I read it.... it's true! Pets and flowers..... but that's ok! I skip over most of them too, but you will see some absolutely gorgeous floral work in there as well. You have to dig for the diamonds..... they are there.

And hey I look at it this way if you took away all the images of flowers and kitties, what would be left?

Hmmmm........ lots and lots of bad snapshots of the various naked female, some of them butt ugly. Usually taken in cheap skuzzy motel rooms or dirty bedroom with bad lighting and bad pose.... Absolutely nothing artisitic in them, yet even those images still manage to gather the usual suspects for commenting. Soooooooo, That's my pet peeve.....

I'll take the flowers and the pets thank you very much.....

Hey I'll vote for a page without a nudie shot.... how's that?
Hey Did I just rant?!

Message edited on: 05/22/2005 10:24

I am, therefore I create.......
--- michelleamarante.com

....OK --- I just woke up -- ( late ! ) --- hell it's Sunday....now ---lets see --- a few flower photos have sprung up here & there - and - well - dearest Nikki - NO ONE ever said taking flower photos was easy! --( I didn't ) --- hell - I've only taken one myself that amounted to anything - ( and that was dedicated to Cyn - who has wisely ducked out of this - er - discussion... gotta love her! )----- now Nikki -- hmmmm - you know I love your photography , including flowers ...... and as a good will gesture to the 'flower people' - I'm willing to make peace - I will give up my 'dream' of a flower free page and promise to take up gardening some day ( when I get older ) -- and I must tell you - one of my favorite photos of all time on this site was Gerhard's 'Tulip In Sepia ------ so I officially end my flower rant ---- ( for now ) --- where the hell did that Devious guy go !!!!

....@ Michele -- I like your take on things! ----we would just have a tiny wee little gallery without flowers & pets --- just maybe a few poorly photographed & naked ladies......and not enough to fill up the page ......( -oh - by the way - Georgia O'Keefe is one of my favorite artists -and she does flowers REAL BIG ! -- but ,then - it could be that 'erotic' element that's subconciously drawing me in...never mind ) -------- anyway this was a fun discussion (??? ) ....especially liked Tedz artistic contribuition - ( how does he come up with an image like that so fast?? ) .......have a nice day everyone ( except for deviousmoose )

Unstrung - yeah I fully appreciated the fun element of the topic and was laughing all the way - but I do think it needed pointing out that flower photography is not to be dismissed as being easy (not that was by you).

Message edited on: 05/22/2005 10:53

And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html

a good rant now & then is good for the soul, the full moon is waning, sure this won't be the end of it, helps balance out all the hugs & kisses xoxo :] (insert naked lady in a field of flowers & bugs with her kitty here :o)

geeeeeeez...... I go to bed one night & wake up the next morning & look what happens......... (running for my reinforcements....) OKAY flower photography may not be easy in all cases..... but in some cases..... same with the pets. BUT read the comments on the image & see if more than 15% of the comments are about the image. It's the good photo that has taken some imagination, creativity, & techinal expertise that get the comments like "what a cute shade of pink," or "pretty flower," or (my favorite) "what a pretty cat." (go back to comment #18 by L8RDAZE- if the comments are about the photo & helpful)To sum it up- theres a difference between a PHOTO & a SNAPSHOT. Looking at the images submitted to this thread- at least these had something other than just hitting the shutter release. There was something that actually went into the photo to make it a work of art. And isnt that what Renderosity is about?? The ART? Maybe it would just be easy if RR would add a new category- "Scrapbooking."

....so there you are ! mr. DM---- well - I must say -- the photo gallery is not really about making art -- just a place to post and share your photos -- make some new friends - encourage one another -- but those without a good eye will always flock to one another and fawn over each others work - what's the harm in that ??? -- "oh! - what a pretty flower!"......so what ? ---- it's not a place for high 'art' --- though there is some truly excellent work here too ! --- soooo - it is what it is - and rides along at a certain 'set-point' that it will not rise above or sink below --- all attempts to elevate it from what it is - will fail -- just accept it - go with the flow & be happy ---resistance is futile.......jeeze - I'm grumpy --- must get a cheeseburger...........cheers!

sound advice doug... nothing to get your panties in a wad over (read forum banner header writeup above ;)

I am in deep shock at Michelles rant!!!!OOOO!!!! Not all Nudies are Butt Ugly...and some provide much Shelter and snuggly warmth. And I did notice Young Hamstrungs Flower Deddy the other Day.. You wee cheeky crawler! *salute*

@ Tedz....I've never been called "a wee cheeky crawler' before...... * salute*

LOL! gerbil stand-ins with horns! :]

Tedz... that would have been more appropro if it were a flower coming out from the valley.
Ahhhh also unstrung.... I shall explain my absence- my eldest spawn headed out today for an internship at DisneyWorld ("the happiest place on the planet"- Rosity is second) so this moose was hibernating early dreaming of pets running thru flowers early and then had to take her to the airport where we were almost late cause one of my cats was sitting by a flowerpot & I just had to.....

No flowers are not easy. They do stay still for you on the most part.You can get the opportunity to take many shots to be able to choose from. Not like a bird that will fly away or moving things that one will bever get that shot again. Maybe that's why I like landscapes and flower shots. Anyway this thread I believe was intended for humour. Right? Michelle's rant was good. cynlee....I laughed good reading her (insert.... Can always count on Tedz for the chucklles too.

"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."

yes Doug...with flowers etc, you can rehearse the shot as it were, but with wild life, only one chance...any shot of a flower, bud, macro of a flower takes time and skill and doesnt come easy...guess depends on what shot yer want to begin with...diff between a snapshot and a photograph of a flower...as in any genre:)

Have to disagree about Compact cameras and most dslr's are not really up to the task!

.....hmmmmmm...I've reread this thread -- and for the life of me - can't find where someone said flower photography was easy ??? --- so ease back flower people ! ...@ dBgrafix -- now I'm hurt you didn't mention me in the 'sense of humour dept ' - but who the hell can measure up to Tedz in that area anyway ----- ...@ Tedz & Cynlee ---- this 'cheeky crawler' reality is just starting to sink in ! -- I think I may have been insulted!.....* unsalute*.....( am I still on the new mothership perspective crew member list, though ? )

@ Unstrung ...Here is a Blue Pill....that will fix Your salute again...of course You are still Crew...good Plumbers are hard to find....manly hugz

,,,@ Nikki ---ahhhh - I see ( #10 ) -- so it was dBgrafix who actually said flower pics were easy to take ....and so they are ! - close -convenient- and easy to aim at --- but he didn't say 'good' flower pics were easy to take! ....@ Tedz ----- a plumber I shall be ! -- ( and always will be - though I have no formal training - or ANY training at all -- in fact my toilet runs on and I haven't a clue why --- but nevermind ) ------little blue pills!! HA! never! --- still in fine working order -thank you ..( too much information ? )

just cottoned on but is this in taking for a record breaking thread yet?

I prefer self raising myself...less complicated :)

LMAO@Doug!!! Man u make me laugh!! Here's a'lil flower to thx u for that! ;P

........beautiful FLOWER! --- but which DOUG are you refering to ?

just playin..haha sorry i could resist doing this for a uhm happy flower... (hides under desk) the flower made me do it.. LOL...forgive my smudin... just for a laugh..! hope no one is offended by my humor today..uhmmmm.....

kimmers ♥ :O)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ehhem... good one Kimmers!! that is one happy & verrrrry excited flower!! maybe I should check the TOS on that... hehe, jk :]

......there's something awfully familiar about that flower Kimarie ......reminds me of something or other...( I'm just waiting for a puff of smoke ! and the appearance of the High Commander - I feel he will have something more profound to say about this bloom! )......he should be here any second 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 ..... ( oh -- and thank you for the flower! -- though I prefer the Georgia Okeefe flower symbolism! ) -- but to each his own! )

boing!!! ...it salutes to Unstrung...this is no "flash' in the Pan....a Pistil to be very PROUD of...sigh disappears in a puff of smoke

well ...it is spring have to pollanate cha know..uh huh ya betcha! ;o)

kimmers ♥ :O)

WHOA! Thats one Pistil Packin Flower! Definitely one with a certain STYLE (DOH!) On THAT... note I'm outta here...petal to the metal! as the BEE-G's would say... uh uh uh uh STAMEN alive... STAMEN Alive!

ROFL@Kim!!!! Man, u're so cheeky!!!! LOL!! And Doug, I was referring to YOU, Doug, aka Unstrung65, yep! :D

Are we having fun yet..... I love this thread. Anyway I love taking pictures of flowers. I think this is my best one...looks way better in bigger size too.Maybe it is a weed,but looks good to me. Kimmers...ROFLMA

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"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."

...@ Pascale ----oh ! --- well in that case - thanks greatly for the flower! --- I put it on my - er - hard drive - and will always think of you when I look at it ( or something nice like that! ).....you're over there in England aren't you ?? --- go out to a Wimpy Bar and have a burger on me - ( I'll pay you next Tuesday ) - I know there are such things as Wimpy Bars - cause I heard one mentioned in the lyrics of a Jethro Tull song circa 1972 ( or there abouts )..... of course they may have fallen on hard times and no longer provide a good burger -- in which case - just accept my heart -felt thanks for the flower. xo Doug

Damn.... my allergies are really starting to act up.........

..... we're outnumbered and outgunned Devious .... they got me on the ropes and threw me off my game -- my hopes for a flowerless page are futile.... perhaps the next generation can take up the fight --- and --though you temporarily deserted your post -- you never caved ----congrats ----- I pass the torch to you.

Here's a tulip for flower power. -Jeff :-)

.....ouch !

ROFL!!!! Well, never heard of Wimpy Bars dear and since I do NOT eat animals, thx for the burger but NO thx!! O_o As for the flower, u're most welcome! :D Oh and Doug (the other Doug, our dear mod!) I love that shot and I don't believe there's such things as "weed" other than the good weed that's smokable and all! ;) Yep!

...Pascale ----- it's very nice to hear that you are a vegetarian -- I admire that -- perhaps if I became one - it might take the edge off the testosterone and make me more predisposed to like flowers --- however - I have already eaten enough cheeseburgers in my lifetime to equal an entire herd of cattle ......is it too late to change? respectfully, Douglas

Did You hear about the frustrated Florist that tried to get Interflora? sly grin

"perhaps if I became one - it might take the edge off the testosterone..."! LOL!!! Might help indeed! ;) Teddy, go on dear, we're all ears!!

i find taking pictures of flowers to be quite difficult. i don't find anything about photography easy. gorgeous flowers ya'all posted. really nice.

Ooooo.... Tedz you are so cheeky! How can I not luv you?

Kimmers! LMAO..... I love it!!!

One I did a few weeks ago, when the Magnolia's went into bloom...... easy.... no.....

Sigma 105 Macro
Manual Focus & Exposure Mode
Center Weighted Metering
f/5.6
1/160
SB-800 flash fired And like Jimry, gotta disagree with Richard's statement about dslr's not being up to the task.....

Message edited on: 05/23/2005 16:22

I am, therefore I create.......
--- michelleamarante.com

I can certainly understand why some people may get a little tired of seeing flowers on every page of the RO gallery, but hey, I think if you can show a flower in a new and unusual way, or just capture the perfection of nature in your own style, then it is worth looking at no matter the subject matter.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations

@ TwoPynts.......now THAT'S a damn interesting flower! ------if most of them were so exotic - I'd have no problems -- alas - it's usually one million variations on a rose - to add waterdrops or not ? -- a little to the left - a little to the right -- out of focus background ...or no ? ----- a rose -is a rose - is a rose ---( except when it's not )--- do the words "overkill" ever impact ? ......the only thing I can do is lay off the red meat and study Alan Alda's persona ( sensitive male ) ------- oh shit! -- ya'll got me started again - have I not learned anything in 59 posts!!!! --lol!

Doug, Doug, Doug...we're gonna kick ur ass!!! ;P Hehe!

.....talk to DeviousMoose -- I'm outta this thread! ciao ! , Douglas.

I like all of these, but really like Michelle's flower photo. :-)

Geee....well...I shur think they're purty....huh huh.... ;o]

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations