I've seen a couple of posts about this program and it certainly deserves all of the proaise it's receieved so far. I'm certainly happy to have it a s part of my arsenal of Poser related software! However I haven't seen any real talk about the "bonus'" included when you buy the program... I'm speaking about the 2 movies/tutorials accessable from Runtime/Python/poserScripts/PhilC/Wardrobe Wizard/WW_Start.htm. As with the tutorials on his clothes making CD, these tutorials on Joint Parameters and Body Handles are great. I'm not sure if it's the way he explains it, or if it's the fact that you can see the process in action as he explains it, but I finally seem to grasp some of the ideas that have eluded me for some time. I've gained enough insite that I might just try to make a new skirt for one of the girls, in the near future... Something I've about given up on since I coudl never get them to work correctly. With the information from the Body handles movie, I'm going to have to try it again. Any way, these are two areas I've seen a lot of people question in the past, and I just wanted to make sure that the tutorials were mentioned. Heck THEY are almost worth the cost of the program by themselves. mike