Okay, I've been trying out the nebula presets in a space scene. Many thanks to darkness_02 for drawing my attention back to this lovely area of 3D. And then trying some others, now there's one that doesn't seem to do anything, it's called "Stellar Atmosphere" and it says: "Emulation of an ejected stellar atmosphere. Try placing a light inside this." So I put a light inside and... this is what I got. (See Above - I've included the wireframe to show what's actually there... sort of) Help? How do you get this one to work? I mean I've heard of Dark Nebulae.... but come on!

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show us your sky and atmosphere settings drac

seems youve been sucked in one of them black holes fran. :P

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Try if switching between worldspace and objectspace in the material editor might help :)

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Is your sun off? Try setting the sky to a pure white, with "Atmosphere Off" checked. If still no results, then it's a Materials issue...

The sun is off, the atmosphere is off, yet other nebulae are perfectly visible, (they are next to this... invisible one, just out of shot) Here's a view of all the nebulae, with the corresponding wireframe.

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Drac, Here's the Atmosphere settings, anything else?

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LSD, Here's the same thing but as you suggested with the sky colour changed to white... why???

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RayRaz, Tried your suggestion too, ands on changing the material setting to WorldSpace I got this: Well... at least it's visible, even if it is nothing like the image in the thumbnail for this preset...

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wow that's soem cool bright glowing disc appearing!

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Rayraz, Ah... I went back and re-clicked on the 'Stellar Atmosphere' thingie in the presets list, and the bright pink elipse dissapeared and I got back to the image in message 6 but then I changed from "world space" to "object space" and now I've got this: So I guess that was the problem. Thanks Rayraz.

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P.S. thanks to all and I've now turned the light's settings down and it's looking much better, I'll go play some more with it now, thanks again to all for your suggestions.

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Rayraz, Yeah, not what I wanted just then but I've saved the new settings under a different name so I still have whatever I'd done to that "Stellar Atmosphere" thingie, I guess I'll go have another play with it now.

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Oh... I thought it was something odd, but all it turns out to be is another of the presets, called "Supernova Shockwave" - but it doesn't look anything like the thumbnail for it, yet when I click on that same thumbnail - the weird pink elipse appears, not the image in the thumbnail... and I dunno why. Anybody got any clues? (Talking about the pink disc in message 9)

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I'm not quite sure

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I've been playing with it and I've now got a slightly larger blue disc... Dunno how I did it though. I then enlarged the sphere itself and low and behold I got a sort of planetary surface... well, a planet sized curve anyway, too nebulous for an actual planet. Then I played some more with the other nebulae, I found the blue-green one a bit on the murky side. Any ideas on how to brighten it up? Also, the pinky red one on the right - I've been trying and trying, but I can't seem to get it less pinky, I've somehow managed to get some blue in there (dunno how I managed that either) but I just can't get the pinky red to be red enough for me. I will post the image (when it's finished rendering - getting a bit bigger now so it's taking longer everytime to actually render) I'll also post the DTE settings for that nebula - if anyone thinks they can help with it. ???

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Okay here's the image I was talking about: ^^^^

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(grins at Fran!) That's one of the coolest things about Bryce, is the experimentation factor! You can play for days and days, and not get anywhere, and then one day... MAGIC!

ooooh how about throwing a sphere with a planet texture right in the middle of that blue effect? with some color variations in the volume texture you could create a planet with an atmosphere glowing from a solar storm! :D

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lordstormdragon, Yeah, I kinda liked it too. Rayraz, " ooooh how about throwing a sphere with a planet texture right in the middle of that blue effect? with some color variations in the volume texture you could create a planet with an atmosphere glowing from a solar storm!" I was sort of thinking along those lines, yes, but I'm not sure how to do "colour variations in the volume texture".

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either by changing the colors in the DTE or by applying another procedural to the diffusion and/or ambience channels while keeping the rest of the texture the same.

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Yerse... well I can see that being quite hard to achieve, since that nice blue effect originates from the odd pink elipse and seems (from my perspective of looking at both the result and the wireframe) to bare no relation to the actual shape it's applied to whatsoever. I'll just render the blue thing without anything else, and post that and the wireframe so you can see what I mean....

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Okay, here 'tis:^^^ The effect of the blue nebulous surface seems to be brought about by the position of the large sphere, with part of it sunk into the ground. (non existant - since I deleted the ground plane earlier on a suggestion in darkness_02's previous thread) But there's obviously something there and it seems to be interfearing with the sphere - felicitously as it happens. So will that make positioning a "planet" easier, or not?

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I have no idea :| it almost looks like render and wireframe don't match up? it's strange.... You could send me the file if you'd like, I can get a better idea of the whole thing that way.

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Sure, can do - can your email handle 356KB? That's with all the nebulae, it's 301KB with just the large blue one.

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yea I can handle big files :) I got Gmail ;) ruben.vreeken@gmail.com (anyone want a gmail invite, lemme know, I got plenty)

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Okay, sent!

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got it! :D I've checked and it's an interesting effect! It's actually created because the texture of the sphere is set to world space, which leaves the volume texture at about ground level. The curved edge is at the edge of the sphere but it's curve is on a horizontal level. The visual effect gives the illusion of a HUGE spherical shape while actually it's more like a disc with a high density around the edges, or so it seems so far. I've tried setting the texture to object space, but failed to get any visuals. So I tweaked around with the filter of the 2nd component in the DTE a bit and got a really interesting effect! I'm rendering an 8 second animation of the camera turning around it for you, it's pretty awesome!

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Yes, I played with the DTE on this quite a bit, can't remember what I did though. And you're right - it only seems to work on world space. I still don't know why the preset (from which this originated) had a thumbnail that looked like a regular spherical shape and pretty much what the name said "supernova shockwave", yet the resultant sphere showed up with a sort of pink slipped disc inside the sphere! Weird or what? I am now playing again, and I've got a totally different effect - again.

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lol yea it's kinda weird. Did the texture come with bryce? or with my volume space textures? or somewhere else? I mailed you a br5 file and a rendered animation of it with a pretty cool effect I created from the thing :)

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Yeah, I got the files - reply in the email ether. The texture is in 'Complex Effects/Celestial' in Bryce 5.5 Here's the result of the last lot of fiddling with it:^^^ You could call it - 'Entering the Red Zone'

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WOW now that is cool!! damn, that's awesome!

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It is kinda fun isn't it? I thought you might like it. I'm also still playing with the blues...

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