Forum: Bryce


Subject: Abraro trees in Bryce

sackrat opened this issue on Jun 02, 2005 ยท 15 posts


sackrat posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 2:33 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=970420&Start=13&Sectionid=2&filter_genre_id=0&WhatsN

I can't remember who it was that posted the link about a Java app called Abraro,.........but whoever it was,........thanks ! I just posted an image using some trees made in Abraro and I think they look pretty decent,.......please go have a look and lemme' know. Some of my MECN Tree Factory trees are also in this image,.........Abraro is much better,..........I just wish the mods it produces weren't so BIG,........Eastern Cottonwood was 37Mb's.

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Erlik posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 3:47 PM

Me. You're welcome. :-) Which ones are from Arbaro? They all look good. Only, that small tree in the middle shouldn't grow from stone. I'd add a couple of bushes in the foreground, too. but it might choke your comp.

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Kathye posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 6:02 PM

Did you see that there is now a package at DAZ selling those trees that are the presets in Arboro? I wonder if Wolfram Diestel knows about and approved that. (Think that was the guy's name who I wrote to when I was getting to grips with Arboro). I suppose to be fair, it's far from a learner's application especially as the meshes seem to need a lot of cutting down once made. Lovely image Sackrat.


TheBryster posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 7:38 PM

Very nicely done. Love the sunlight shining through the trees!

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Zhann posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 10:03 PM

If someone is selling presets from another software package someone should bring it to Daz's attention.....

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Zhann posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 10:10 PM

BTW what was the link, always looking for better tree making apps...=)

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sackrat posted Thu, 02 June 2005 at 11:01 PM

Thanks Erlik,......this is a great little app. Actually I don't need to mess with the meshes at all,........so long as they are exported as .dxf files. The two center trees are Abraro, the two to either side are MECN Tree Factory. Yeah,......the trees growing out of rock did bother me a bit(although this does happen here in the Valley, they just don't get that big), but as is the scene file was about 670Mb's and Bryce was begining to protest. The terrain is actually two terrains(exported at "Planetary" resolution) one on top of another with a transparency applied to the top one. I believe the app is available at SourceForge.net. Thanks for looking. Oh yeah,.......I should have mentioned,....the lighting is madmax's Zenith Hi-res light rig.

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Kathye posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 12:40 AM

Attached Link: Arboro at sourceforge.

Easy link to Arboro.

danamo posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 1:19 AM

Great looking trees sackrat! I know what you mean about the huge file sizes. Did you generate the leaves in Arbaro?
I sometimes cheat by using Bryce tree leaves,(I make the trunks invisible)on my Arbaro and POVtree models. Unfortunately I never got to try MECN tree factory before it vanished. I never met a tree-making app that I didn't like,lol. Have you tried Lsystem4? It's a freeware app that has quite a few good tree presets among others. It's actually quite easy to use and has a built in "mutator" that can help you come up with your own custom versions of the presets.


lordstormdragon posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 3:20 AM

I disagree, Danamo... I've never met a tree app I DID like. They are all too predictable, and too angular. They never really look like real trees. Then again, I live near Seattle. We have wonderful trees here, and sooooo many different kinds! Tree Factory was a joke, Danamo. Very, very underpowered. You didn't miss much!


lordstormdragon posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 3:29 AM

A quick screenshot, Danamo. Like I said, very underpowered.

jelisa posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 12:22 PM

The trees at DAZ are not using the default presets but modified settings. The basic tree shape will be the same since its programmed in, but the exported tree is not a default preset.


sackrat posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 12:28 PM

Tree Factory is a lightweight yes,.........however, if you play with it enough you can get some very interesting results.

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danamo posted Fri, 03 June 2005 at 2:37 PM

Well Stormdragonlord; to each his own,lol. You're preaching to the choir as far as the huge and varied trees in the State of Washington; I live in Vancouver,WA, and am a frequent hiker in the Cascade and Coast ranges. As far as huge firs and other tall conifers; I think you are right. I haven't found an app yet(at least,one I can afford) that will make tall(150 to 300ft)convincing trees of the types found in the Pacific Northwest. Here's a variation on a pic in my gallery that shows a hardwood tree I made using a POVtree trunk and Bryce foliage. I think it turned out pretty well. No post on the pic, except my signature.

lordstormdragon posted Sat, 04 June 2005 at 4:12 AM

Aye, POVTree is about as good as I've fond, for my personal tastes... It's much more potent than TreeFactory, and renders beautifully! Although I need to learn some optimization methods to help speed things up. My best POVTree attempt. I doubt I could get many more trees at this quality level into a scene, without more RAM or some kind of optimization.