Well, I am quite new to the Poser Community (& quite new to Poser), though I have been using Max for about 1 1/2 yrs now. I have been reading whatever threads there are in the forum(recent ones and the not do recent ones), and one thing I have found a bit not so cool is most people just tend to grab things off the Marketplace. Not that its bad or something, but whatever happened to the good old days when not so much stuff was sold and quite a lot of stuff was there for free(Including high quality stuff)...and Poser being more of a 'Hobbyist Folks' community, I think that a lot more stuff should be available for free, good quality stuff...and from the Pros in particular. I had been mostly visiting places like highend 3d, and cgtalk before I got Poser for myself. And there I found that a lot more stuff is free(A lot more stuff is sold too, but thats not the point). I have been uysing loads of quality scrips, plugins, etc which could have been charged for, but were instead given away for free. Another thing which I found strange was that sometimes when someone asks for a solution, I am not pointing any fingers, but folks tend to reply : "Ya I think there is an item in the Marketplace that should do the trick, and its just LOL $$ LOL, you should seriously consider that as an option." Not that there is something wrong sending people to the Marketplace, but why not just tell 'em, "Ok, here's how I did it. Here's my file. See if it helps. Use it if you wish." I think that most Poser users are hobbyists. They would rather want to learn whenever they are given a chance to rather than go Dload some script or some model they have to pay for. So, here's to the same spirit. I have done a small head now. And during the course of this month I will also do a low poly body for it. College Vacations. Nothing else to do. Its just coming up. Not completed yet. Here's a test render for it in Max. Will bake texture n put it up for use in Poser as soon as I learn how to make morph targets.(Don't have a clue how to. .but saw a tut in tutorials section. Ne one knows how to do it in mAx)