I just bought a Fujiyama 2x tele lens and tried it today!! And the result is a disaster!! Can anyone help here!?? Plz, pretty plz!! Do I have to send it back or am I forgetting to do something or what?! O_O

Without the lens!

With the lens! These are "as taken" other than resizing of course!

Is this on full zoom Pascale ?

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Yep Rich! They both are!

Looks to me as though it is incomaptible with the camera. It should focus an enlarged image on your lens and it doesn't appear to be doing that. Unfortunately they don't all work with all cameras. You should not need to do anything other than fit it ,zoom in and shoot.

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Ah yes! That's what I thought! But where I bought it, it says that it was compatible with the Sony f717 and F828. I also read somewhere that a guy who was using that same lens but with a Canon cam, was having the same prob! He said that it worked fine when he added a filter before adding the lens!! Doesn't make much sense right! I guess I'm going to send it back! Thx for ur help Rich!

It probably worked when he added the filter because it moved it further from the lens so that it did focus as it should on the front of his lens. Best to buy from somewhere like jessops where you can try it unless it is the sony one that is guaranteed to work.

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We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

Edward Lear
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Hello...I wonder if ther's a menue setting you need to adjust when adding the lens? This is the case for my Panasonic.

Ah yes, it makes sense! And I think I've learned my lesson! Unfortunately, I checked at Jessops but my Sony f717 and its accessories are not available anymore and the guy there told me to contact Sony directly to see if they had any tele lens in stock. So I thought about checking out on ebay, since u can find almost everything there and....well...here u go! :(

I don't have any options like that in my menu Jeff! :(

Figured it couldn't hurt to ask. I have the options...but no lens :-( I hope you find a lens that works. :-)

Not that I know anything about this lens, but to me it looks like it could be camera shake?!?

Have you tried it on a tirpod and or at a faster shutter speed?

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Pascale, I had looked into this before and learned I had to also purchase a conversion lens. After much debate and discussion with Eric (prior owner of this camera) I decided not to buy one. As I understand, the camera was not originally designed for use with a tele. Good luck and if you find a match that works well, let me know. Jackie

@lostpatrol: If it was camera shake, the first shot would be blurry too! ;) Beside, I had the same results with every other shots I took with the lens! Jackie, I know that Sony does a tele lens for the f717! ;)

Pascale! My Nikon 8700 has a setting hidden somewhere in the menu for the Wide angle lens that I have and have only used once, I am also almost certain that I saw in there another setting for the tele lens that they also manufacture. You may want to contact Sony and have both cam and lens handy and if they aren't compatible, sell it on E bay! Will do a search here.... Brenda :)

The first shot says without the lens! I can only comment on what I see as I have never used one. I am interested if only to learn something from it.

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OK Pascale, I found one compatible lens on the sony site (see link below) and it is a wide angle lens, kind of like the one I bought for my 8700 but a tad bit pricier for the Sony! I searched the site for accessories for both cams you mentioned the F717 and the F828. This is the only lens listed for the both of them, maybe the only lens that Sony manufactures for it...? The rest seem to be manufactured for camcorders! I think I would call them and specifically ask them about the lens that you have there. I know that when I purchased my wide angle lens for the 8700 I had to purchase an extension tube so that the lens inside could move in and out as it usually did when I shot. Let us know what you find out! Sony Lenses Brenda :)

Attached Link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30070&item=7521291496&rd=1&tc=photo

@lostpatrol: "The first shot says without the lens!". Exactly! That's the all point here! Without the lens, it's focused and with the lens (second shot) it's blurry! See? ;) @Brenda: Thx a bunch for the link Brenda, I think I already saw this one! Here's the link to the ebay item I bought! It's clearly specified that it's for the Sony f717!! Do u see anything suspicious there??

Yes I can see that! But more zoom = more chance of camera shake. It was only my opinion based on the fact that longer lenses need a faster shutter speed or a tripod, if that isnt the case in this then I am sorry. You asked for opinions and I gave mine, you have made it clear that I am off the mark.

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While I think it is the problem with adding glass in front of the lens, that is causing the poor picture quality. Most of these tele-converters are for video cameras with much lower resoultion. Only tele converters made for the camera or a few "well" known brands work with prosumer cameras. You have to consider what LostPatrol suggested. When you increase the focal length with an extender, then the camera shake is also increased. If I shot a photo with a 50 mm lens at 1/60 of a sec and got a sharp photo, it would be very doubtful that I could achieve the same with a 200 mm lens. The longer the focal length the harder to hand hold and get a sharp image. So while your 1st photo is sharp, increasing the magnification of the image, increases the chance of camera shake. But again, I think it is the tele extender poor quailty that is causing this. The problem is there is no way to tell unless you use a tripod, or make sure you have a very fast shutter speed. I am trying to remember but I can't, what type of camera do you have?

Attached Link: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=13415122

Pascale, Checkout this link at the SONY forum! L8r! Joe

Ok, here are the settings for the 2 shots: 48mm F/3.5 1/1000 ISO100 And I didn't use a tripod. Sorry lastpatrol if I came out a 'lil harsh! :( I didn't mean to offend and I really appreciate ur help on this! :) Thx Randy for the explanation too! :) I'm gonna try with a tripod tomorrow but now that I've read all this, I doubt it will change anything! Especially since I used a shutter speed of 1/1000! Thx a bunch for the link Joe, might be very useful for future purchase! ;)

OK Pascale! Checked out the ad and ummmm I must say... The first thing I notice in the ad itself is the fact that they are showing a picture of this lens on an Olympus Camedia! Kind of makes me wonder if the lenses between the Olympus and the Sony are interchangeable or are you in possession of an Olympus lens. Checked out your seller too! He is a power seller which means he gets a ton of feedback! 2,433 positive feedbacks in six months isn't anything to sneeze at so he must be doing something right! Well in that same six months he has 26 neutral feedbacks, 6 negatives and 7 mutual withdrawls. While the problem may be as LP and Randy suggest, I think it has more to do with being the wrong lens... read on. Go in and read his feedback from the dates April 23rd, April 20th, March 12th and February 14th. (I am sure there are more if you look closely, I just kind of skimmed through part of his feedback record!) You will note that on the dates I noted he has sent out the wrong lenses for various cameras. Your seller seems basically honest and if you email him you may be able to resolve your issue. If he doesn't respond to the email, he definately seems to respond to negative feedback. Let us know what happens! Brenda :)

RE: menu option. I found the info on conversion lens. It says it says it's in the "Set Up" Menu. But the setting should be off for the tele and on for wide angle. Manual also says when a conversion lens is mounted, the weight prevents the lens portion from locking. They recommend supporting the lens with your hand or using a tripod. I still want to know the outcome should you order the model recomended by Sony. J

1/1000 is plenty fast enough shutter spped Pascale, I doubt that you will see a difference with a tripod!

Ah yes!! I think so too Brenda!! And I did e-mail the seller, telling him about the problem! I also sent him the same pics that u can see here to show him I wasn't bullshiting him! And yes, he does have a nice feedback record which is why I bought it from him, in confidence! I'm waiting for an answer....! Jackie, I don't think I will order the Sony lens, it's too expensive and I'd rather like to save that money to buy a DLSR! ;)

Its ok I wasnt offended I understand how frustrating it must be. As a final thought on this, the lens on eBay that you likled to is very cheap even for eBay, in my experience you do really get what you pay for with optics. I have got an ultra wide angle add on lens and the optical quality is at best below average The Sony lens is much more expensive and probably much better as it is made by them, but still may not produce the kind of results that you hope for. Your camera has x 10 zoom? I think! That must be a good range already; I know whatever the range you always want more, I do. As a foot note, Jessops are currently selling the Canon 350D for 699, on a "special offer" I dont know if this is the kit or body only nor do I know if this is a good price as I havent looked around. Simon

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I hand a 717 Pascale, I saved up and got a DSLR. And I wasnt dissapointed, so good luck with the saving up !! :) BTW I still have my 717, its a lovely camera, and I'm very fond of it still.

U're right Simon and I've definitely learnt my lesson! It was a very cheap lens indeed which is why I bought it, thinking it might be a fantastic bargain! LOL!! Guess not!! But, I've already been refunded! The guy is great! He answered my mail very quickly and din't even try to convince me other wise! He refunded me straight away! I'm impressed with the service! And I am saving for a DLSR, but not the Canon 350D, which I know is much cheaper, but I want the Canon 20D! Been dreaming of that cam for a while now! ;) And yes Adrian, I like the 717 too, it's a very handy cam and the lens is very good! But it's still what I call a "basic" cam! No RAW option, only 5 million pixels and it's not a DLSR! I will keep it though for my walks in the country side! ;) Thx to u all for the help and good advices, u guys are angels! :)

My friend had the 20D, very nice camera; I have its older brother the 10D. One thing though, these cameras do need good optics, I dont mean you need pro class lenses but the low end of the market don't IMO cut it with the DSLR sensors. On passed form I would expect Canon to announce the 30D (or whatever they are going to call it) late this year or early next year. 18 months seems to be about the norm from one generation to the next. Nothing is sacred in the modern fast moving world. Anyway, when you get your DSLR you wont regret it.

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I'm know!!! Oh my! U have no idea how much I want that cam! I read lots of reviews about it and it appears to be a fantastic cam indeed! With the 18-55mm lens, it's around 900 to 1000+. Kinda of reasonable for the kinda cam it is apparently! But any advice or opinions about this is more than welcome! WINK

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I have only seen the 20D 17-85mm image stabilizer lens bundle, and that is more expensive that what you have stated about 1300 and 889 for the body only. I havent had a good look though as I will only pine for it! I tend to look at user reviews for lenses, this though can bring up mixed opinions, but you generally get the idea of what is good and what isnt. This is a good site for reviews see link As far as canon lenses go, lenses in the pro-sumer range are generally optically good they have a gold band round them, the L (Luxury) series lenses are their Pro range and have a red band round them some are beige in colour, and range from around 4-500 to several 1000 in some cases. Some of the Sigma and Tamron lenses are said to be good, although I have not got any so I cant offer an opinion. The bundled 18-55mm lens seems to be reasonably good, but wont have nearly the amount of range as your 10x Sony

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My Sony is 10x with the digital zoom which I do not use! The optical zoom is only 5x. And it's not much! :( Thx for the link Simon, Gonna check this out! :)

Pascale, You will love the 20D. I have had mine now since March, and I really love it. I also have the 300D which I loved also, and still use as a 2nd camera. The kit lens is Ok, you might considered 28-135 IS Canon lens. This lens has a good range, has good glass in it, and has Image Stabilization that makes it easier to hand hold in low light shots. Another good "bargin" lens is the 70-200 f4. This is an "L" glass lens meaning pro glass but can be had for around $500.00

Ooooh! Thx for all the infos Randy!!! And yea, I know I will love that cam! I wanted it the mn I saw it! Kinda strange really but I have such a good feeling about that cam! Now I have to save...in a few months I think I'll be able to buy it! I just can't wait! I dreamt about it last night! LOL!!! Worrying huh! O_o