SR1 is a massive disappontment. A stable Poser6 (well, reasonably so) has now becone a big black hole. I can't render, the cursor disappears all the time, endless waits for simple tasks, File menu greys out so I can't save, Poser just vanishes sometimes, it refuses to cancel busted renders, etc etc etc. AAAAARRRGGHHHHHHH After one unsuccessful render and a forced 'End Task', some files got messed up on my boot drive and the PC forced disk check and rebooted 3 times in a row. Ick. Before I did SR1, my Poser6 was OK, just the usual junk with not liking big files and so on.... Extremely frustrating and disappointing. Not even a basic P4 render works. I have Win2K SR4 on a standard Intel P4 PC w 1GB & Geforce Ti 4600, latest drivers. Poser is not installed in default folder - it's on a different drive, has always been. Ever since P2. And it was fine a week ago. I haven't installed anything else new of any significance, I have the same old virus checker etc that I had before. :] Fish