hauksdottir opened this issue on Jun 10, 2005 ยท 20 posts
hauksdottir posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 8:21 PM
hauksdottir posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 8:27 PM
hauksdottir posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 8:30 PM
hauksdottir posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 8:38 PM
DJB posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 10:22 PM
You killed the first one a bit, but wow on the other three. I would pick #3 because it has such drama. The effect is fantastic. Then #2 becaause the sun did not wash the sky out as much as #4. Brilliant work on the POVs
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kimariehere posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 10:27 PM
i like # 2 the best .. something about it draws me in .. love the light on it.. thought it was water at first nice shots!
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Zacko posted Fri, 10 June 2005 at 11:14 PM
I do belive it is water Kimmie. I like number 2 and 3 the most. Agree with Doug, impressive POVs for sure. Have a wonderful weekend #:O)
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Zabeth posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 12:38 AM
... number 2 and 3 ... This are very powerful shots! Have a great day!!!
Erlik posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 3:11 AM
Yeah, 2 or 3. Although, on the other hand, I do find that big water spray plume very interesting, so I would vote for 2.
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KiwiMiss posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 3:25 AM
Numbers 2 and 3 for me too, I especially like the POV on these ... Noeline
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cynlee posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 3:32 AM
like #2 the best with the mist & tiny tree... would crop in proportion to rid the righthand scrubbie & then #3 too, your idea of a long crop sounds good there :]
hauksdottir posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 4:19 AM
Thank you all for the feedback! I'd already tried darkening the sky on #4 so that the mist would be revealed, but it wasn't tweaking subtly enough. :sigh: I'm not a real purist unless I'm doing documentary work. I've moved stray grassblades before shooting and lens flares afterwards... but twiddling ought not to show. Shooting into the sun was easier with my old manual cameras because I could lower the f-stop a few steps. However, I'm lucky to have this camera (it was a gift), and it's just a matter of hoping that it sees something of what I'm seeing. So it looks like #2 (with a bit of cropping to fix the balance and remove the distracting tree on the right) will be a keeper. Then play with #3 as a long lean image, and see if I can evoke some motion. Note to kimariehere: the rock was VERY wet with a thin film of water over most of it, but the ripples of the granite give it form. It is the same as #4, but about 30 feet to the right and down a little. I used to be a climber, but the footing wasn't the best (understatement). With this much water, it should be a incredible year. :) Thanks again for the critical eyes! Carolly
cynlee posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 11:34 AM
#4 has potential too & as you did say you were attached to it... with a little more tweaking of the sky to bring out the halo of blue that is there would make it better imo but it is missing the mist in the whites which you won't be able to retrieve... something you can think about next time you shoot such a scene & you're using auto... is have the cam exposed for the sky, then do another for the ground... layer them in the editing program you're using so you have the correct exposure for both :]
Erlik posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 1:21 PM
Cyn, that's an eminently sensible idea, BUT... How am I supposed to get my camera exactly to the same place where it was for the first shot? Without a tripod, that is.
-- erlik
cynlee posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 2:13 PM
trial & error & a bit of fudging ;] at least with digital you're not very limited on the number of takes
hauksdottir posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 3:32 PM
Erlik, If you are just matching sky to a clean horizon, compositing two shots taken from the same rock or patch of meadow shouldn't be tricky. If you are trying to overlay a complex shape such as a person, it would be harder. Thank goodness our sun doesn't move very fast! To bring out the mist in #2, I made a duplicate layer and cut just the sky. I raised the contrast, but that also saturates an image, so I softened that. Changing the blend modes tells PhotoShop to calculate and weight pixels in various ways... multiply gave the best result. Layers can also be faded and/or made less opaque, so it is possible to be very subtle if you are trying to coax a bit more detail. This is easier than taking 2 exposures, but can't fix major flaws or places where there is no detail at all. :sigh: When you remember the deep blue sky of the mountains, looking at images where it is washed out to whiteness is disappointing. I'd read that Ansel Adams used to bake his prints in a microwave to bring out more detail; playing with layers gives a spot more control. The cliff edge was lighted, but every once in a while the wind would catch the water and lift it like a veil, so I took almost a dozen shots. The camera delays a split second after I click the shutter, so there is luck and anticipation involved. As cynlee suggests, with a few extra takes, the odds are better that something will align just right. cynlee, Thank you for the comments and encouragement. I'll go back to these 3 and get at least 1 of them into the Gallery. It might still be possible to finesse something from #4, and the experience of playing with it will be good... but #2 is a special moment. We didn't get up the mist trail to Vernal and Nevada Falls which is perhaps a good thing: my images from the base of the lower Yosemite Falls are all water-beaded... so much spray at the bridge that it was almost like showering! Sometimes it is best to look for the intimate picture rather than the grand view, but feeling the rock vibrate under the water is an experience. :) Carolly
Erlik posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 6:10 PM
"When you remember the deep blue sky of the mountains, looking at images where it is washed out to whiteness is disappointing. I'd read that Ansel Adams used to bake his prints in a microwave to bring out more detail; playing with layers gives a spot more control." Fortunately, we are in a digital era. :-) Take a look at the link. The results are imporessive. http://www.xe847.com/
-- erlik
hauksdottir posted Sat, 11 June 2005 at 9:05 PM
Hmm... that is an interesting plug-in. The eye does so much filtering of information... disgarding what is irrelevant to survival. There are times, though, when I want the bounced coloring of reflected light. I like the fact that the controls can be over-ridden. Carolly
vlaaitje posted Sun, 12 June 2005 at 7:40 AM
I like number 2 the best, moody and misty, love that
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lak posted Sun, 12 June 2005 at 12:07 PM
from a completely non-technical viewpoint, i'd say i like #3 the best...it just pleases my eye the most and its the most interesting to view....