heyas; okay, is it just me? am i nuts or something? i'm working in poser, in the main camera, and i grab my figure's eye, and i position it so the pupil is looking where i want it to look. all well and good. then when i render... the fool thing is looking... somewhere else! no, it isn't the pupil is painted crooked on the eye, these are real pupils (holes in the eye), i can see them clearly in the pre-render work mode... they just look like they're looking somewhere other than where they were looking before i rendered them. i dunno. :)