horndog40 opened this issue on Jul 05, 2005 · 42 posts
horndog40 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 4:41 PM
I like the P4 bone structure because its easier to pose but I'm frustrated at the lack of male characters, anyone got any links to any? Horndog PS:A BIG THANK YOU TO THOSE ON THIS BOARD WHO RESPONDED TO MY NEWBIE QUESTIONS. THIS IS A VERY NICE PLACE AND I CAN'T WAIT TO CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING HERE.
wheatpenny posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 4:50 PM Site Admin
Attached Link: http://poserpros.daz3d.com/store/viewitem.php?selitem=523&start=0&selcat=0&selsub=0
Here's a set of morphs for the P4 Casual Man (the same person also makes a set of textures for him).Jeff
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horndog40 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 4:55 PM
thanks, I'm primarily interested in P4 body morphs, the face morphs look quite good.
jeffg3 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:13 PM
:)
Little_Dragon posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:22 PM
8-tracks are easy to find, if you know which landfills to search.
vilian posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:23 PM
Attached Link: http://posetteforever.com/forum/portal.php
Dork (P4NudeMan) was so hard to morph into something more human-like that people forgot about him almost immediately ;) Seriously, have you ever been to PosetteForever ? Those nice guys & gals are trying their best to resurrect "ancient" P4Figures. Unfortunately, Poser community lacks of Dork body morphs. He's mostly rendered clothed - if ever, and putting clothing onto a morphed characters can be a pain in the back.Outdated gallery over at DeviantArt
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horndog40 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:27 PM
Vilian, With all the utilities such as "Tailor" and "Wardrobe Wizard" making clothing and morphs for it doesn't seem to be a big deal anymore, no?
jeffg3 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:27 PM
Where's the "internet landfill" so we can search it for old P4 stuff?
narcissus posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:27 PM
Also there is a great dork charcter for Dork at RuntimeDNA(free)! pitklad
XENOPHONZ posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:38 PM
At least with 8-tracks, you might find a market for them on ebay.
But the Dork.....? I doubt that you'd get many bids on him.
narcissus posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:40 PM
Also I've heard that WW can convert for morphed characters so this is solved too!
As for the face I'm working Domus this time that we are talking and also DoRuS is still under development!
Whos said P4 people are dead? :^)
It's a pity since we've got them by default not to use them!
On use V3 for close ups but for a long shot Posette can be as good (and don't tell me possete doesn't have inough cloths!)
pitklad
XENOPHONZ posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:43 PM
Actually, I've always thought that "Department Store Mannequin Man" would be a more descriptive term than "dork" for the default P4 male.
The Dork might have a brilliant career at Sears.
dlk30341 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 5:48 PM
Quote "The Dork might have a brilliant career at Sears"
ROFLMAO!!!! That is soooooooooo true. I can't stop laughing over that one, the best description to date I've heard :). Thanks for the laugh ;P I can see him in those mens stretchy pants now! LOL
Message edited on: 07/05/2005 17:50
XENOPHONZ posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 6:08 PM
Glad that you liked it ;D J.C. Penney might work for him, too.........
MaryK posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 6:38 PM
Attached Link: http://www.morphworld30.com/cd.html
BastBlack posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 6:52 PM
The MorphWorld CD is where I got alot of Dork morphs. There are still a few places online with free dork morphs, but not too many anymore. Do a search in the free stuff. Also check out the MalePoser site, it has alot of dork stuff. The best of Dork characters are from Japan, imho. Ode is pretty cool for P4dork. Using WW to morph Dork is also a good idea (but his fingers won't convert). bB
momodot posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 6:53 PM
dlk30341 posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 6:58 PM
@ Zeno...yeah..JCP Penny back in the 70's-80's, It seems they've changed a bit(haven't been into 1 in about 5 years)...Now Sears....hasn't changed a bit(went in to 1 about 2 months ago to buy a fridge), go figure, since they bought up some Kmart stores LOL.
momodot posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 7:00 PM
stahlratte posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 8:00 PM
This is ODE, momodot...
...and you can download him HERE:
http://www.rose.ne.jp/~seisui/gallery/gal_poser_download.htm
(The excellent hair is included, btw)
Personally I think whoever created the Dork did a pretty good job.
He bends better than default Posette and if you look closely at the mesh the modeller did some really effort to get a good definition of the muscles.
He may lack looks like M2 or M3, but IMO hes very "likable".
Would Dr Geep and NaySayGuy the same with Michael 2 or 3 ???
What he DID lack, though, were better default expression morphs, so that he could express a wider range of emotions.
Maybe his biggest disadvantage is that he is FREE, so he doesntt provide folks with the smug feeling that they now will make better art than their peers because they paid more for their equipment. LOL.
stahlratte
xoconostle posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 8:01 PM
Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=15334
"Ian" by Handspan Studios is a very fine (and full) set of body morphs, as well as a texture, that create a great character using the M2P4 mesh. I was pretty shocked, in a good way, by the results when I bought this product way back when...
SeanMartin posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 8:36 PM
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SeanMartin posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 8:37 PM
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Little_Dragon posted Tue, 05 July 2005 at 8:51 PM
I was wondering when you'd notice this thread .... :)
BastBlack posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 1:24 AM
I haven't tried it, but you can convert M3 textures to dork. First UTC M3 textures to M2. Then load April's P4NM that's remapped to take M2 textures. Wa la! I forget where to get the remapped Dork. It's a MustHave. I don't hate Dork either because back in the days, everything was free, and I have tons of killer free stuff for Dork! In fact, I've been slowly Wardrobe Wizarding Dork stuff to M3! ;D Ode is such a cutie! =D Over at RDNA is where Dr Morphius was. It had alot of cool morphs. Also try to find the celebrity faces for Dork. There were some good ones. I made a master cr2 with all of Dork's morphs I could find, and it's only 20 megs. lol! And... Mech4D did AMAZING work on Dork with reshaping his face and making high res textures. I don't know if she ever released it. Search the forums, you'll see some killer pictures. Dodger made a V3 Posette (it's over at PoserPros), but I don't think anyone has tried to convert M3 to Dork. bB
mathman posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 3:34 AM
Attached Link: http://www.runtimedna.com/viewed.ez?download_id=5112
All, Dr Morpheen for Dork, by Syyd Raven is available at the attached link. Enjoy !! regards, Andrew
xantor posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 6:11 AM
The p4 man is still useful, unlike the daz figures it isnt a huge filesize, it isnt the wrong proportions and he doesn`t need these !"%$^ injection morphs. The film the omega man is set in the near future, it is about the last man alive where everyone else are dead or mutants. In one scene the main figure is driving his car and he gets out an 8 track cartridge and puts it in the car stereo to play it.
TrekkieGrrrl posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 6:23 AM
The main problem with the Dork is his lack of textures, really. I'd use him more if he didn't look so plastic-y. I've got a few textures for him but I really need more in order to make him look different, when you've got more than one person in a scene.
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stahlratte posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 6:34 AM
@SeanMartin: Really great work, Sean. That b/w pic is just unreal !
@BastBlack: The remapped Dork can befound at Aprilsvanity:
http://aprilsvanity.com/dlpage.php
She also added transmapped eyebrow and pubic hair props to him.
@mathman: Many thanks for the link !
Oh, and heres another "ugly" DORK: ;-)
stahlratte
momodot posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 9:57 AM
SeanMartin, Those are such nice images. Just great. Only for my taste I wish the fellow on the left in the color image had armpit hair. I have been meaning to try to make an armpit hair prop that would work on Dork and Posette. I am using Tom's Real Pubic hair but I would prefer something smaller in memory. I don't/can't have the texture converter :(
momodot posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 9:59 AM
Also, I find Dork very well boned too.
SeanMartin posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 10:10 AM
Gotta do my part, LD. :) I dont use him nearly as much as I used to, but I still find him far more versatile than folks think he's capable of. Momodot/Stahlratte: Many thanks. Insofar as textures, I built my own, using whatever textures I could find and then adapting or working from original photos. It's surprising how easy it is once you do it a couple of times, and it's given me a library of over 30 dork textures that are on par with anything for the milFolk.
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BastBlack posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 10:39 AM
Funny thing is, I think I underuse M2. I recently did a side by side line up of all the main male figures (not including Dork, Don, and James), and M2 was suprisingly good in comparison. He's alot better than I remember. I picked up Boris for him, and may UTC some high res M3 textures to him.
If you want to see the line up, here it is:
To see the MUCH bigger image of the police lineup, go here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~bastblack/images/Policelineup.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~bastblack/images/policelineupBK.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~bastblack/images/policelineupLT.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~bastblack/images/policelineupRT.jpg
Figures included are (left to right):
M2, V3 Male, M3, Freak, David, Seth, Luke, Matt, bB's Sess, Poserman's A3M3, Hiro (real), Vittorio, and Anton's Apollo.
narcissus posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 2:38 PM
Maybee you can add Domus 2.1 too :^)
He is available at PosetteForever!
A new smooth face morph added plus new eye morphs!
Hand&Feet are ERC controlled to affect forearms,shins automatic
Plus a new 2000x2000 texture and P4/P5 mat poses!
gave fun!
Who is Sess?Is he a new figure? looks nice!
pitklad
xantor posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 3:08 PM
The changes to the head with domus are a great improvement.
narcissus posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 3:23 PM
Thanks xantor! I tried to smooth the head as much as I could without having texture distortions! I'm now working a bit Dorks UVS there are some points that need improvement I'll not change anything just add some materials and correct a part of the head uvs at the right side that creates big distortions on the textures,I guess everyone has noticed it... Generaly all textures will work except Lash maybee which in my opinion needs a seperate texture for better results... Or should I put it in the same map? there is quite lost space on Dorks UVS.... pitklad
wolf359 posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 3:46 PM
Funny thing is, I think I underuse M2. I recently did a side by side line up of all the main male figures (not including Dork, Don, and James), and M2 was suprisingly good in comparison. He's alot better than I remember. I picked up Boris for him, and may UTC some high res M3 textures to him.<<< IMHO M2 is still the best posermale ever released his built in morphs make him very versatile and Like others ive been quite busy with wardobe wizard converting clothes from M3,Dork etc to my muscled up M2. LONG LIVE M2!!!!
wolf359 posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 4:05 PM
Bastblack ,I just looked at your lineup and its amazing when you look at the front deltoid(shoulder) of M2 the and apollo compared to that pathetic M3 rig and you see why i dont use M3 for anything the Freak is not too bad in the shoulder due to his Mass. But M3 andV 3 ........horrible !!!!!plus they require that annoying Inject/rem system.
momodot posted Wed, 06 July 2005 at 7:08 PM
Wow! Pitklad... the texture too! Great face. Thank you.
BastBlack posted Thu, 07 July 2005 at 1:29 AM
mathman posted Thu, 07 July 2005 at 2:09 AM
BastBlack, You have done a brilliant job on Sess, he looks fantastic !!
narcissus posted Thu, 07 July 2005 at 3:28 AM
BastBlack you've got a great job with Sess! He is one of the best in the line! Hiro looks nice too,and of course apollo... As for Domus Tormentor said the link is fixed now! :^) pitklad