There's an elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. Maybe this is because it's been talked about so many times before, but I'll do it again anyway... In my opinion, the hot 20 has taken a backwards slide in the last while. With a few exceptions, most of the images that show up there are not that good. In fact, some of them are terrible. I'm sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes. This is just my opinion for what it's worth. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Maybe I don't know a good image from a not so good one, or maybe everyone else has different tastes than I do. I'm thinking that the more experienced artists, or at least the ones with the same tastes as I have, aren't pushing the vote button anymore. I know that I am not, but now that I think of it I am doing myself a disservice. Like it or not, the hot 20 is one window into the fractal community. Right now when you look through it, with a few exceptions, it's not that great of a view. One solution is to push the freaking button. Just leave off the V because that's part of the problem. We have talked about the V many times before, but just in case you weren't there the V implies vote exchanging and that makes for an ugly hot 20. Let's fix the hot 20. Get out and V - without the V And yes, I know, this topic has been talked about over and over again. Let me get the bitching about the topic out of the way right up front: This topic sucks. I am so tired of it, blah, blah, blah... There, now you don't have to do it. If you don't like the topic, click out. Otherwise offer a better solution or start voting for your favorite images. If voting continues to not work then let's get rid of hot 20. It does more harm than good if it continues the way that it is. It feeds unhealthy obsessions and it reflects poorly on the community, with a few exceptions. If it continues to not work, kill it. Or maybe it is working like it is supposed to and I don't know what I am talking about. Obviously there are 19 or 20 people who believe that. Keith