Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Just sharing a little tidbit

agape opened this issue on Jul 13, 2005 ยท 22 posts


agape posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 2:26 AM

Hi there! I have been experimenting with combining transmapped hair and strands for detail. Here is an example using Quarker's wonderful new Saffire Fox Hair. There are lots of "stray strands" flowing in the wind here. I have never been able to paint hair in postwork so I needed to find another way. Hope y'all like!

vilian posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 3:29 AM

Looks good, you did a great job here.



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estherau posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 4:46 AM

Excellent work! Nice render too!!. So can you post one without the strand based hair for comparison? Love esther

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linkdink posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 5:32 AM

That looks really, really good. What exactly does that mean, to combine transmapped and strands? I understand what transmapped hair is, but are the strands a separate object? or - ?

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FireMonkey posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 5:59 AM

I may be in love, can you introduce me [grin] - that is an excellent picture, both the technique, the composition and the model [I realize you didn't make the model, but you did choose and pose it] I am interested in exactly what you did for the hair also, I've been trying to do some work with hair for a while and so I know it isn't easy - if you have ideas that you're willing to share, I'd loive to hear them.


logansfury posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 7:14 AM

wow very very nice! Is that just stock V3 without any facemorph? Youve made her look lovely! What texture did you use for the natural redhead skin and eyebrow tones? I also second the request for a comparison pic :)


Smoker1000 posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 8:46 AM

And I'd like to second the request for the facemap texture. It's quite marvelous. Great work, BTW - I thought of combining strands with other hairs a couple of days ago (I'm still getting used to P6) and just haven't had time to play with it. Would appreciate learning more from you quite effective experiment. - Mark


cindyx posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 9:06 AM

Very well-done image! I like the hair effect a lot. I'd like to learn more about what you did too.


Marque posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 10:25 AM

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xantor posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 1:11 PM

The strands are hair from the hair room.


agape posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 1:15 PM

Here's what I did! I applied the SapphireFox hair and used one of the poses from PresciousSapphire's pack. Then I looked through my library of strand-based (P5/6 only) hair to find one with many parts. When I found one, I deleted all the parts I didn't want...I kept bangs and a top scalp piece. I went to the hair room and started to move, twist and clump the strands until I got the effect I wanted. Then onto the material room to do a color match. I started with a copper hair color node then tweeked in until I got the right match.

As far as the skin texture goes, I used an older texture (a little over two years ago), no longer available, called "Amazing Grace" by "ByteMeOk". She was doing photoreal textures when they were just starting to hit the marketplace. Then, because I am totally addicted to Face_off's "Real skin shader" script, I added that. The V3 morphs? I usually grab a head morph from my library and start messing with the dials. However, I am partial to slightly larger eyes.

My goal is to animate so I am not interested in modelling or creating textures....although I love to experiment! I closely follow Neftis and Mec4d animation work and I would love to spend a week with Ynsaen and glean, glean, glean!!! And when I need to laugh my head off, I go over to Bobosaur's sight and watch his animations! Lighting is my weakness so I am studying that while playing with hair.


mateo_sancarlos posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 1:55 PM

Excellent work on the hair. I recall a controversy centering around Byteme a few years ago, perhaps involving copyrighted textures, that ended rather acrimoniously.


momodot posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 2:16 PM

Sweet. Thanks.



logansfury posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 6:16 PM

Thank you for the comparison pic and the render detail information, great, great helpful info for everyone that followed this thread with interest :)


cindyx posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 6:29 PM

Thanks for both pictures, and for taking the time to explain everything. It is appreciated.


estherau posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 6:50 PM

thankyou. good work! love es

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agape posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 7:23 PM

Here is another example of combining the two. The transmapped hair is Divine Curls. Then I took the puffy bangs piece of a strand hair prop, added it, tweeked it and did the color in the material room. Again, the color is matched by bringing in a hair color node that is close then changing it and doing area renders to check it. In the actual image, the woman is not closeup. She is set in a dance pose in a gazebo. At closeup, I would bring a few more stray strands into the body of the rair for realism. Please forgive the funky shadows on the curls. This image is still a WIP and I have been trying to work with the lighting (my weakness) on this one.

Letterworks posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 8:17 PM

agape, this is one of those "little" tidbits that seems to come alog and raise the bar for Poser realism! I can see this method becoming a standard for Poser renders! mike


estherau posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 8:29 PM

I can see hair being sold with combined trans and strand. Love esther

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agape posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 8:53 PM

Wow, thanks Trav! That just blesses my socks right off!!!


Faery_Light posted Wed, 13 July 2005 at 8:54 PM

I like the looks of that hair. Now a question... How do I bookmark this thread? I want to come back and read it more thoroughly later. thanks.


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