Ok, I made a conforming t-shirt for Luke in Hexagon, grouped it, and conformed it. It fits great, but when I pose Luke, the armpits rip out, and his deltoids rip through the shirt. What is it with the DAZ Shoulders? Everything I've made for V3, SP3, Luke, Laura, Maddie, and Matt have done this. I do not want to have 5000 magnets and morphs, so that the shirt fits right. I made the shirt dense at 2906 polys, so that it would flex and stretch nicely. I could always make the shirt dynamic, but I want D|S and P4 people to be able to use this as well; which is why I made it conforming. Can anybody shed light upon DAZ's funky shoulders? thanks, -The Starkdog