CemAygun opened this issue on Jul 20, 2005 ยท 14 posts
CemAygun posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 10:11 AM
Well, as far I have learned from the previous posts, Dance Studio from Metacreations is an abandonware now, and can be legally shared. Is it possible add it to the free stuff section? Frankly I was willing to pay for it but there is no place to buy it from with electronic download (and please don't recommend ebay) I downloaded danceforms demo and it seems too complicated for my needs, and also too expensive. So I would like to give DS a try. By the way, I only own Poser6, so I don't have the sample BHV files from poser 4, and don't know if they are available for Poser6 users. Any help would be a life saver...
zulu9812 posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 10:17 AM
what was dance studio?
EnglishBob posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 10:23 AM
Attached Link: http://www.metacreations.com/press/dance_release.shtml
Here's the press release from Metacreations. Even if it is 100% legal to redistribute, and you'd want to be quite sure of that, someone would still have to play host before it could be posted in freestuff. Ooh, the bandwidth!
EnglishBob posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 10:27 AM
Attached Link: http://www.abandonwarering.com/?Page=FAQ
Further on the legality issue: see especially the section "Why abandonware is technically software piracy". Not in Renderosity's freestuff, you don't.
kuroyume0161 posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 11:03 AM
Exactly, EnglishBob. 'Abandonware' or not, copyrighted software is still copyrighted software, no matter how old and how abandoned. Just because certain really old video games (we're talking early 1980's) don't even have a company, they are still under copyright (and any living constituents of the copyright could rightfully sue your a$$!).
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Estruch posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 12:10 PM
Dance Studio? where? please.
mateo_sancarlos posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 3:08 PM
It's never a good idea to deem somebody else's product "in the public domain", "abandonware", "free for redistribution" or any of the other excuses for thievery. For example, I was under the delusion that Robert Indiana's "Love" symbol was "in the public domain", until I learned that he is re-asserting his rights to the item with the help of the Artists Rights Society in New York (http://www.arsny.com/).
steerpike posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 5:35 PM
Wait awhile; I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as legitimate freeware via download or on a magazine cover CD.
There's a lot of older but good software that gets released in one of those two ways - Poser 3 was a prime example, and Deep Paint 2 is probably the latest.
Until then, though, the other posts are correct - 'abandonware' as a legal status doesn't exist.
las_61 posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 6:29 PM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=597934
There was a thread about this a long time ago. Here is the link. http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=597934
jjsemp posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 9:03 PM
Dance Studio does not work on any Windows operating system after Windows 98. I have Dance Studio, and I'm now using XP, so it is essentially useless to me. Anyway, you really don't need it. All of the Dance Studio dance moves are available as BVH files on your Poser 4 Content discs. (scrambles out of the way while everybody races to get their old discs out)** -jjsemp
theodote posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 11:49 PM
jjsemp, did you try running it in compatibility mode? Works wonders on a couple of old games I have. Just in case you lose your poser 4 disks.;-)
wyrwulf posted Thu, 21 July 2005 at 12:02 AM
Would Dance Studio work with Hardware Acceleration turned down or off? I have it, but haven't tried it since I moved up from Win98. Even then, I had to turn off Hardware Acceleration to get it to work properly. The only thing I've done with Dance Studio was to poserize one of the characters.
CemAygun posted Thu, 21 July 2005 at 12:56 AM
Well, first about legal issues; I was in no intention to "steal" the software :). Frankly I would rather buy it as we are basicly a licencing company so we earn our money by caring for copyrights...But that does not seem possible. I just recall reading a post about someone contacting MC at the time being and them saying that he can distribute the software. This is why I asked... As for poser 4, I don't own it. I only own Poser 6. But if the content on this cd is sold seperately (like the furniture and stuff) I would like to buy the BHV's...Does anyone have info on that? And for the XP/98 issues; our system admin salvaged an old 98 CD from our "kind o' company junkyard" (thank god we were established in 1996 :) ) and said that he can make a fake installation with something called virtual pc. I have seen him work with that software. It's like a PC in PC. Your second installation runs in a window thinking that it is a seperate, stand alone machine. He uses linux that way and he says it should also work for 98...
Mister_Gosh posted Thu, 21 July 2005 at 2:38 AM
Indeed. Virtual PC (and other similar products) will run Win 98, and very well. In fact, Virtual PC will quite happily run Windows XP (something I occasionally use when I'm considering a bit of software but can't totally be sure of the origin...if I infect the virtual installation, I just delete it whole cloth).
Message edited on: 07/21/2005 02:39