Well here I go again, I'm trying to get rid of my Carrara. Anyone who wants it get's it (OOPS one exception No OVERSEAS sale), must be in the U.S. I think $160 is a good sale price since I paid $300 for it. Anyway, do not worry about me, I'm the Max moderator. In case you're worried that I am a ripp off, the Bosses here have my mailing address and home number. Oh yeah Poser4 still for sale also at $100. LOL and Peace Serge