Mayliah opened this issue on Aug 11, 2005 ยท 20 posts
Mayliah posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 9:38 AM
I have had two comments on my gallery image entitled "But I Need Him" that have suggested that the image might be flattered if shown in sepia tones. I'm always happy to try out this sort of suggestion and see what comes of it, but..I realize I don't really know how to achieve the sepia affect in Photoshop. Is it a matter of decreased color saturation? Or it is a colorization effect as well? Tips would be much appreciated. I'm attaching a smaller version of the image for reference purposes. (The higher resolution one is in my gallery here. Thank you in advance. :)
Mayliah
cynlee posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 10:50 AM
Attached Link: http://www.optikvervelabs.com
you could also try it with the Virtual Photographer plug-inZacko posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 11:48 AM
Yup, a truly awesome plug-in that is. I couldnt recommend it more. #:O)
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
____________________
Andreas
Mystic
Pic
TwoPynts posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 2:20 PM
Anything a filter can do, a patient Photoshop user can as well. :) There are many ways to acheive a Sepia tone, the one you mentioned above is a perfectly acceptable process.
Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations
Zacko posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 2:42 PM
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
____________________
Andreas
Mystic
Pic
TwoPynts posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 3:11 PM
Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations
Mayliah posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 5:49 PM
Andreas, your version looks a wee bit green. :D But, Kort, I really like the second version of the image you have posted. But I'm pretty sure I prefer the color version I originally uploaded...any thoughts on that? In any case, thank you both very much for helping me experiment here. It is very kind of you. :) Mayliah
logiloglu posted Thu, 11 August 2005 at 8:03 PM
regards !
gerhard
ChuckEvans posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 7:01 AM
Well, I'm going to buck the crowd (smile) and say the original is just wonderful...except (in my poor artistic opinion), the color of the curtain distracts me too much. If it were me, I would do ALL I could to preserve that beautiful skin tone next to that beautiful dark hair. IF it DID get a sepia tone applied, I like the one Gerhard has done. It is subtle and warming.
Zacko posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 7:28 AM
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
____________________
Andreas
Mystic
Pic
ChuckEvans posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 9:26 AM
Ahhh, Zacko! Bullseye! That keeps all the "material" in the same hue and the skin texture and expression become the beauty spot in the image.
TwoPynts posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 10:37 AM
Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations
TwoPynts posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 10:38 AM
Oh, and I really like the glow you achieved there Gerhard! ;]
Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations
MartinK posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 1:25 PM
I quite like the original as it is, but the other samples are more like the effect you get with old black and white pics that haven't been washed properly and have gone that warm sandy color. Proper sepia is a very subtle cool brown color. Convert the image to greyscale by using the channels command, using the sliders to get the tonal effect you prefer. Change back to rgb and put in a subtle color cast using the color balance controls. Try for a start about 6 yellow and say 4 magenta. Try also selecting mid tone for the yellow and magenta and the highlight control for a more bluey tint. It needs to be very subtle. You could also try the 'dual' tone effect to give a subtle color change.
tibet2004uk posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 9:13 PM
The original for me too!! And that curtain has such a beautiful color that it's a real shame to lose it IMHO! Now, this shot could look great in B&W too I think! But it's a great shot to start with so it would look great in almost every treatment I believe!
Misha883 posted Fri, 12 August 2005 at 10:32 PM
MartinK posted Sat, 13 August 2005 at 1:32 AM
Now that looks better, more like authentic sepia!
Mayliah posted Sat, 13 August 2005 at 8:26 AM
I have to admit that, of all the edits, the one by TwoPynts is my favorite. However, I do think I prefer the color version above all. Yes the curtains are a bit distracting, but, in thinking on a symbolic level, they show that no matter how heartbroken the young woman might be, there is still beautiful color in the world...and very close to her, if only she will turn to see. Thank you all again and again. I've learned so much from just this one thread. I'm very glad I posted my question! -Mayliah
Misha883 posted Sat, 13 August 2005 at 8:54 AM
:-) Thanks, Martin. Here I copied just the Blue channel as I liked the contrasts. [In converting from color to B&W I use the channel mixer, or usually just grab one of the pure RGB channels. Usually the Red or Green looks the best. Red simulates old ortho film. But here the Blue channel emphasized the contrast between the face and blanket, and almost started to wash out the face as in an old faded photo. The noise in the Blue channel also contributed to the aged feeling.] Convert the Mode of the grayscale copy to RGB. For the toning, I used one of the "Donald" presets, avalable free in our Resource Center downloads area. These vary the color depending on luminosity, and give a much deeper effect than with applying an overall color cast. [Though one can get a similar result using the Color Balance controls applied selectively to highlights and shadows.] I think I used "Kaliotype" rather than "Sepia," BTW. The color after curving was somewhat too much, so I turned down the saturation slightly using the Hue/Saturation slider.
ChuckEvans posted Sat, 13 August 2005 at 11:28 AM
Thanks for the explanation, Misha. Always interesting to see how someone achieved a nice effect.