Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Help- Skirt for Laura

CauriBlackthorne opened this issue on Oct 03, 2005 ยท 12 posts


CauriBlackthorne posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 1:09 PM

At the moment Im working on a skirt for laura (the mesh isnt perfect yet), but after conforming it acts like a pant. can anyone tell me how to edit the cr2 to make it act like a skirt.

Thanks



randym77 posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 2:05 PM

How did you group it?

Skirts usually don't have thigh or shin groups. The whole skirt is in the hip group. That's why old dresses (like Posette's evening dress) only work in the standing position.

To make the skirt posable, you make "pose morphs" in the skirt.

Try looking at a dress, such as the DAZ morphing fantasy dress, and you'll see what I mean.


CauriBlackthorne posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 2:28 PM

my dress has thigh and shin groups and i have to find a way to "connect" them.



randym77 posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 2:39 PM

You've discovered why dresses shouldn't have thigh and shin groups. :-) They end up behaving like pants. It's a limitation of Poser.

You cannot make long skirts that conform to the legs. I think you have to re-group the skirt so only the hip conforms. Then add some pose morphs to the skirt (walk, sit, kneel, etc.). The user will have to use the dials in the skirt to match the pose.

Either that, or make it dynamic.


CauriBlackthorne posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 2:44 PM

I really hate dynamic clothing, dont know why, thanks for your help :-)



diolma posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 3:00 PM

Not sure, but I believe PhilC has a tutorial about this on his site.. Cheers, Diolma (who LOVES Dynamic clothing, which is why I can't do conforming..:-) )



stahlratte posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 5:21 PM

"Skirts usually don't have thigh or shin groups."

This is the Edwardian Riding Suit from Poserworld:

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It has a hip, lThigh and rThigh groups and fully conforms to Vickys thighs AND shins.

Personally I prefer skirts with morphs like those of Serge Marck as they give an incredible flexibility.

I tweak Poses so often till Im happy so waiting for dynamic clothing to adapt everytime I change something just takes way too long for me.
But dynamics are a great way to add morphs to a conforming clothing item.

But as you can see by this suit, even a long skirt can be made as a fully conforming cloth and still adapt to a reasonable amount of poses without breaking.

stahlratte


Starkdog posted Mon, 03 October 2005 at 6:11 PM

Attached Link: http://www.morphography.uk.vu/modtut7.html

You have to weld the thighs in the cr2. Check our EnglishBob's site. He describes this in the Della skirt tutorial. -Starkdog

CauriBlackthorne posted Tue, 04 October 2005 at 1:54 PM

Thank you so much, this helps a lot.



Jim Burton posted Tue, 04 October 2005 at 3:14 PM

The conforming skirts I make work as well as anybodies, I think, better than most, maybe. ;-) They have working thigh AND shin parts, plus I give them a bunch of special operators. But they still have problems with some poses, especially where one leg crosses over another. The "Anton" solution (which seems to be used in the Poserworld skirt above) take all the strech between the legs in the middle polygon (as you can see)-works great for some poses, hopeless on others. Dynamic skirts have other problems, of course, but they can do poses as in the pic, most of them would be tough for a conforming skirt without a ton of hand adjustments.

CauriBlackthorne posted Tue, 04 October 2005 at 4:09 PM

Ill redo the grouping as soon as I get home from my real life job (still 10 hours to go :-(). I realised that I have to change the grouping of the buttocks part so that they conform with the thigh. This is my first try in modelling a piece of clothing, still have to learn a lot :-)



CauriBlackthorne posted Wed, 05 October 2005 at 9:17 AM

Thanks for your support