Well, ive been absent for some time now, and this is the reason. Im temporarily going from 3D to the real thing, and building Villa Rochr. :)

It was either this or a Murcielago. Unfortunatly my gf has a vote as well...

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You two have great taste, love the windows in the main area. Hardwood throughout? Excellent! Maple or Oak?

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Yeah, those windows are extras and not part of the original drawings, but pretty much a must have. :) Combined with the high ceiling they make wonders with the overall atmosphere. The floor is all oak, apart from clinkers in the bathrooms, washing area and a piece at the entrance. Figured it was the best choice.

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Ok. It's got 2 (external) doors. Now all it needs is 2 seats, 4 wheels and an engine, and maybe a slight re-design, including removal of extraneous stuff (annoying partitions and superfluous windows) and little streamlining, and there you go:-)) LOL, Cheers, Diolma

Don't giv'm any ideas....He'll get in trouble if he puts the greeble siding on. LOL

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Of course some additional modifications will be necessary. I still need to make room for the tachyon-based subspace array, to "phone home", as well as some steel beams with wires in the living room/kitchen area and reinforce the roof. It needs to be able to hold the weight of the landing platform in case the relatives decide to pay a visit. A couple of extra wardrobes for the tentacle warmers and... Arrgh, all these choices... :)

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Rudy, your starting to sound like you will be doing some more artwork when the misses isnt looking with those thoughts.........just do onething at a time........then carry on with this image! ;)

Smile, your dead a long time :)

Maybe a murcielago in the garage?

Looks great. I am trying to model a house in Rhino to render in Bryce, but the molding is driving the file size into the stratosphere.

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looking sweet so far!

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Rudy, I think they're paying you too much ;-)
That's way cool - to design your own pad and actually get to build it!

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Very nice house. Sooo... where's my room?

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Tell us when it is done. Then party at Rudy's place.

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Unfortunatly the house is not my design, only the modified windows and moving/altering some of the walls and the interior.(see attached original and link) If i could design(and afford)a house from scratch, it would be larger, more open and have a second floor partially opened between floors. We actually checked out something close to that at first, where the living room had almost 5 meters to the ceiling. A mucho nicer house, but it also costed 400000 sek more. This one cost enough already with 2.5 mil sek. :) Dann, Hopefully sometime next summer. Ill fire up the BBQ. :)

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why am I put in mind of a couch stuck in a doorway, with a 3d program showing all possible angles to get it in?..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

Even so, being able to design the layout must be great. I've often thought about taking a sledge-hammer to a couple of walls once or twice in this crappy semi-detatched I live in, but of course I had to think again 'cos the landlord would've kicked my ass :-D

Anyway, cool pad that - with plenty of room for a spacecraft or two.

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ah pakled, he probably has the required time machine to solve that.

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as long as it's done holisticly..and gently..;)

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do I detect a hidden joke?

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indeed..
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..but you'd need to be Douglas Adams' detective to figure it out..mebbe..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

so... Rochr is going native is he, is he really going to put down roots (er, tentacles?) good looking house btw. The new top windows will really open it up light-wise.

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I can always mount a couple of thrusters on the damn thing if i get bored with the surroundings. Yeah, those are a lot better than the originals. And the best part is that they cost as much as the small arched one. :)

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Congratulations, very cool! I'm sure you will have the neatest artwork in the neighborhood hanging on your walls... :)

Reminds me of when I designed the deck for the back of our house - as a level in Quake 2. (I hadn't discovered Bryce yet. :) It worked out terrific, except that Mrs. Gibs kept asking "Isn't there some way I can walk around and see what it will look like WITHOUT having the ray gun held out in front of me?"

Rochr....doing real-world architecture???!! Lol...just kidding. You should see the boring stuff I do in Bryce for clients. No dof, no rust...boring boring. ;oD AgentSmith

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Agent Smith....doing non-rust images???!! (grin)

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Sigh...evidently if money gets slipped into my bank account I'll build and render just about anything, lol. AS

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Speaking of rust, I have been working with a multilayer multimapped rusty painted metal shader for my updated chinese junk project. Rather pleased with it so far. (Reworking the junk UVDan made for me into a C4D compatible steampunk future flying ship which I will be compositing into an image donated by ICM.) apologies Rudy, this is not intended as a thread hijack BTW, those windows cost the same?, go for yours!!!

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Hope you don´t mind me reviving an old thread here.
Last year i presented my biggest "model" so far, so it´s only fair to show you an update and what it´s going to look like. :)

The final compromise i presented to the architects and the company building the house, and a photo taken earlier today. Basically only the shell, but finally up. :)

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Bada Bing! Nicely done so far. Or should I say Nice WIP

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Thanks pal. And luckily, we´re pretty much set with the inside as well. Thank god... :)

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LOL, I can't tell you how many times I've heard that sigh of relief. Big times Congrats....any date for a CO?

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With all that paperwork, i´m still surprised my brain hasn´t melted yet. lol

CO?

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Certificate of Occupancy........"When you can move in". :)

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It is looking very nice.  How long left before completion?

Come visit us at RenderGods.

Ignore the shooty dog thing.

What a great project!

And your render is much better than their's. ;-)

And...

... when's the house-warming party?

Probably completed around september 14th. :)

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Nice going, Rudy! But... Murcielago? Either Gallardo or Aston Martin DB9. :biggrin:

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@ROCHR. Personally I would have giving the gf the flick, got the Lambo, and used it to pick up a new gf. Then moved into her place.

@AGENTSMITH. People always ask me why I don't make a profession out of my art. Your comment about boring commisions answers that. Art is my way of enjoying myself, and I will NEVER let anybody turn my fun into something I don't like.

dang..too late to tell him about north-facing windows (well, depends on how close to the equator you are; the farther away, the smaller the north-facing windows are, because of heating..;) mebbe it's astrology or something..;) You go.

 

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Cyba_storm, ur fogetting the part where rochr's gf is from his homeworld. Do you have any idea what those space women can do with 8 tentacles???

BTW, nice house Rochr! Let me know when u'r having the housewarming bbq?

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Looking very cool.  It is going to have wonderful light inside it.

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That phone home thing - can you get me one? I'm sure it would beat ATT's DSL especially when ATT keeps trying to hack my computer. 

Looking good Rudy, can't wait to see the landscaped grounds, and the sci fi city in the background....

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Quote - That phone home thing - can you get me one? I'm sure it would beat ATT's DSL especially when ATT keeps trying to hack my computer. 

Your provider tries to hack your computer?? wtf... Isn't that illegal?

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Lol, Gog :D

Cyba_storm,  problem with those type of girls is that you´ld eventually have to sell the Lambo to finance their shopping addiction. Besides, girls who let you spend this much time in front of a computer are worth more than 10 Lambos. (Ok, that last part was a lie, but you know what i mean...)

Pakled, i thought you knew that us aliens are heat resistant. :)
I think those windows are facing to south east. All i know is that we have sun all day.

Bikermouse, ok, i´ll send you one if you provide with the tachyons yourself.

Btw, since i´ve posted most of the house anyway, i might as well post the rest that are finished. Also based on the blueprints, and pretty much what it´s going to look like.

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are those done in maxwell?

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Yeah, that´s right. I made these as a help for choosing tiles and stuff. (cheaper than ripping down the stuff later on) :)
The only real use i´ve had of Maxwell so far, but in this case it did a good job.

Slow though, 100 hour+ for both renders and still not really clear. :)

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Rochr,
Sure I'll  just hook it up to the trusty old ZPM or a Naquada generator.

Rayraz,
They aren't my carrier yet. I emailed one site and they said they'd block the violation from trying to hack into my computer. There are about twenty others that need to be taken care of as well.  Yes it is illegal to hack into someone elses computer without their permission. In the U.S.A. the last resort to report such violations is the Federal Trade Commission  and most companies don't want the hassle. Not sure what to do about the Australian hack yet.... I'm not at all suprised to find out that the hacks come from big companies - most all hacks need to be done by someone with more expertise in internet programming than myself. Most people simply do not have the knowlede it takes to hack and unless they work for a company who employs them to do this aren't likely to access the information it takes to learn how to do this stuff.   the day of the script kitty is all but gone, when I first started tracing these bozos I thought I'd catch a few punks but all hacks seem to originate from large companies and most (when caught) are more than willing to block hacksites. In the case of ATT I am sure that they started trying to hack my computer when I made an inquery  as to their broadband service. Sure I want to pay $12.99 for broadband, sure I like ATT but I do not want them invading my privacy for the priviledge.

Of course someone could figure out more about more about firewall logs inquiring to IP addresses for domain info and write code which contacts the clown by E-Mail or does something else. Such a person could call such software "the corbomite device" after Kirk's bluff in StarTrek TOS  .As John Wayne might say " 'Im not gonna do it; I'm not gonna do it..."  

  

 

Your artwork is so life like Rochr.....amazing details in the building conditions and on a working site :)

 

 

Looking really nice Rudy, hope you have many a peaceful time relaxing and raising that family  (8 legged kind) :)

Smile, your dead a long time :)

If you have proove that they're hacking you then why not sue them?

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100+ hours?? omg I heard maxwell was slow but THAT slow?? You might just as well render in bryce at those speeds!

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If i put it like this, the people who find Bryce slow, should really give Maxwell a try. They will never complain again. Ever.

Funny thing is, these renders were made with RC5(release candidate), and it´s actually much faster than the final 1.0 version.  :glare:

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wow really? damn.. I guess I must be spoiled then with mental ray..

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Maybe I shouldn't feel so bad about my last Cinema render - 63.5 hrs (radiosity, several large area lights and three major xfrog trees, lots of glass and reflections)

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I'm rendering a 6 second product presentation animation right now with final gathering at PAL resolution in mental ray, and the whole animation renders in about the same time as it would take to render 1 or 2 frames in bryce. And then the brycean version would have banded shadows on the GI simulation dome while my mental ray render is smooth and clean :-P

I wonder how long Maxwell would take to create a noiseless render...

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Quote - I wonder how long Maxwell would take to create a noiseless render...

There´s no such thing as noiseless in Maxwell Land, only different degrees of noise...

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Any idea what would that take with sky and radiosity in AR?

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AR would probably take a long time to render these out as well. The true advantage with Maxwell (at least with RC5 and not using Maxwell materials) is that you have very few settings to make. Adjust fstop, determine a location for the sun and hit render. Fine tuning can be done during render.

...of course the downside is render time, a tideous scene setup for Maxwell, tagging etc.

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Rochr,
I used to use something I believe it was called Dreamhouse by IMSI . It would take about an hour to render a room but the results weren't anywhere near as impressive as Maxwell. It was probably cheaper by a factor of ten though.. You could add building materials costs and have the write out a log file of expenses, materials sources etc.I believe you could add your 3ds furnature objects too..  The program has matured since I used it - you might check it out for architectural stuff that isn't going to end up as artwork.   

Rayraz,
Nah I'd end up spending all my time in court and in most cases a judge would kick a suit like that out of court. If I did win then I'd get a big head and try to get qualified to pass the bar - No one wants that!!!!.

There's a lot of those clowns out there. I finally found a decent free firewall which blocks these jokers out and lets me know about it. I guess that and being knowing how to complain to the abuse sites will have to do.   

 

There´s also Indigo, which looks promising. And it´s free. :)

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Bike , since most of the intrusion attempts happens on an autopilot, it's dubious whether abuse complaints would really achieve anything. BTW, I specifically told ZoneAlarm not to notify me about intrusion attempts, just to stop them. There's been something like 50 since this morning and I'd go crazy with pop-ups if I asked for the notification.

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Quote - There´s also Indigo, which looks promising. And it´s free. :)

And it's also S.L.O.W. Ewww. That cupboard and the window were done in 24 hours on four machines. Why are such interesting renderers so slow?

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Quote - There´s no such thing as noiseless in Maxwell Land, only different degrees of noise...

Ok, then, how about "visually clean"? Like, a degree of noise that isn't obvious (I'm easily annoyed by too much noise when i render something hehe)

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Thanks - I'll check it out!

Erlik,
Yeah, Indigo is slow, but consider that one guy is doing this for for free. Pretty much what Next Limit are trying to achieve with a whole team, and they want $1000 for it. ;)
And i honestly have a feeling that Indigo is going to surpass Maxwell at the end, both in quality and speed, if it haven´t done so already.

Ray,
To get a noise free image from Maxwell is close to impossible, and on a single machine, you´ll need to count a minimum of about a week or more even for the simplest scene. Most people over at the Maxwell forum rely on plugins like NeatImage and Noise Ninja to clear out some of the noise.

...unless you have a renderfarm at home, which would help out greatly. :)

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wow... damn. makes me wonder why people even bother to spend so much cash on buying it... I could so not live with a render engine that would leave me noisy pictures unless it renders for a week or more.

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That 1 man vs. a whole team bit reminds me of this 13 y/o kid on CGtalk who programmed a monte carlo ray tracing engine :-P

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Quote - Yeah, Indigo is slow, but consider that one guy is doing this for for free. Pretty much what Next Limit are trying to achieve with a whole team, and they want $1000 for it. ;)
And i honestly have a feeling that Indigo is going to surpass Maxwell at the end, both in quality and speed, if it haven´t done so already.

Oh, well, from what I saw of Maxwell and Indigo, the latter is very close. They'd need to incorporate some more advanced stuff like subpoly displacement and, seems to me, something not so advanced as Diffusion. but if it continues like this, it will be very useful and quite nice.

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Quote - wow... damn. makes me wonder why people even bother to spend so much cash on buying it... I could so not live with a render engine that would leave me noisy pictures unless it renders for a week or more.

A whole lot of people are actually quite pissed on Next Limit for not keeping their end of the deal.
The thing is that it´s supposed to be a fully working plugin, but somewhere along the line, NL came to the conclusion that they couldn´t speed up the current engine, and started from scratch again. Then they also decided to put most of their effort in making a Studio version instead. This wouldn´t be a bad thing, if it weren´t on the cost of the plugins, which really was what people payed for, and what the majority of the customers want.
This is also one of the reasons they´ve pulled some of the previously planned plugins for a number of programs.

The sad part is that no matter how many times people point this out, NL simply don´t listen, keep working on the Studio, "forget" about the plugins, and still refuse to pay refunds. Not so long ago, even the most loyal users started to get fed up and protested on their forum, resulting in every other thread beeing deleted and mass banning of anyone posting "uncomfortable" questions/pointers. Quite a sight actually, and a threatment of customers i haven´t seen before.

Ok, have to admit that when you get Maxwell to work(RC5), it can produce some extremely slow but fantastic renders. Unfortunatly i could never recommend it to anyone in its current state.
It´s still buggy as hell, has to many limits, lacks several crucial features, scene setup is far to tideous, and you wont get faster renders until the rs2-engine, which will be sold with 2.0(perhaps). ;)

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Just for my own interest, I did a quick model of your main room and took a cut at rendering it in AR with sun/sky, radiosity, AO. It's cooking at the moment.  If you're interested I will post it.

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Well, after 2 hr 8 min, and a slight pause in PhotoPaint to drop in a trace of noise here is my attempt at it. I personally like the maxwell image's light work better, but for the time delta I will stick with what I have. It has been an interesting exercise. As I said before, you will get a great light in there.

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Wow.. maxwell sounds like a soap series haha. Is it not possible to force NL to refund? After all it seems that they have not supplied the goods that people were told they'd get for their money right?

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Kinda makes me glad I didn't go for it.
BTW I got a bunch closer with some tweaks to my sun, the AO gradient settings, radiosity levels and the color correction effect. Thanks for the challeng (even if it wasn't one) - I have learned a bit of new stuff!

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Ooh, C4D has AO gradient settings? What kindsa settings are those? Does it allow you to actually fully customize the gradient between brightest and darkest color? In 3dsmax i can set the light and the dark color and the sensetivity to occlusion but i can't adjust the actual curve.

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Yes. They have control gradients on just about everything. You also have scene AO and material AO. In AO, all the colours are set via the gradient.

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oooh that's kinda cool! In 3dsmax you have an AO shader which u can apply to any channel on your material you want (though it'll obviously not be usefull everywhere), but i dont think it's got a gradient control assigned... Though probably that could be bypassed by introducing a falloff or gradient shader to one or both of the color channels of the AO shader... I'll have to run a test with that some time.

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You can also, by varying the min/max sample rate and min/max raylength get a seriously cool dirt effect.

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Quote - You can also, by varying the min/max sample rate and min/max raylength get a seriously cool dirt effect.

I think that should be possible in 3dsmax also yeah.

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