I have Vue 5 Esprit and I like it, but to get the optimal set of tools, I still have to invest something. Poser6 is great for people and animals. For making new items I use Cinema 4D 6 at the moment. I also have Xfrog 3.5. First option would be sidegrading to Vue 5 Infinite. Nice render engine, great ecco system and all the other benefit from Vue. Unfortunately I see limited export capabilities, especially the great ecco system will not work. Second option would be upgrading to Cinema 4D 9.x, plus Xfrog 4.x and Vue Fusion. Great render engine, unified workflow, integrated modeller,... Yet I'm not sure, what Vue Fusion will do in Cinema 4D. e-on's homepage doesn't say too much. Is Vue Fusion just for integrating Vue scenes to Cinema 4D or is it a functional module like Ozone or Xfrog? Do you need Vue5I anyway? The Lightwave deal looks great, but I don't want to change my tools again. I'm quite used to the way C4D works now...