Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Alpha channels and Poser 6

LanceB opened this issue on Oct 16, 2005 ยท 11 posts


LanceB posted Sun, 16 October 2005 at 10:00 PM

In Poser 5 I used to save a rendered figure over a background image as a .psd and then open it in photoshop, click select, then load selection and then drag the figure onto a background in photoshop. Now that I have Poser 6 when I go thru the exact same procedure it drags the whole image or at least more than just the figure over the photoshop background. I have found that if I render over grey (I would prefer to render over the entire scene)and save as a png I can drag the figure as an alpha channel over the new background in Photoshop. It was less trouble in P5 to render the entire scene and save as a psd. Is there any way I can do that or has P6 just made my life more difficult? Does anyone know what changed in P6 that does not allow the previous procedure? Lance

Message edited on: 10/16/2005 22:06


Casette posted Mon, 17 October 2005 at 1:17 AM

No idea... I save all my files as +.psd to re-work in Photoshop and I dont found any differences between Poser 5 and 6...


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Arien posted Mon, 17 October 2005 at 3:05 AM

Save as TIFF, you'll have the alpha channel in the channels palette in Photoshop.

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LanceB posted Tue, 18 October 2005 at 11:06 PM

Here is the message from Curious Labs Tech Support that basically says that P6 can't do it like I could in P5.
"Dear Mr. Hendricks,
Unfortunately, at the moment the only way to render out an image with a transparent background in Poser 6 is to choose Render Over Black in the Render Settings, then save the rendered image as a PNG file. We apologize for the inconvenience."

Lance

Message edited on: 10/18/2005 23:12


Casette posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 1:43 AM

O_o ... my Poser6 is a mutant one??? I swear. My last render had a Vicky2 and a photo as background. Rendered in Firefly. Exported as *.psd. And... I had in Photoshop7 my nice pic with an alpha which contents ONLY THE CHARACTER


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Acadia posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 1:55 AM

Why not just save the poser render as a .png file? That way you don't have a background and don't have to worry about dragging it or deleting it or having to access an alpha channel to get rid of the background.

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tastiger posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 2:06 AM

What I can't seem to grasp with this thread is if you are going to transpose the figure from your rendered image to another background - why would you render it with a background image in the first place? When I am making promo images for the market place I simply render over a black background and save as png then transpose the character from the png to whatever background I am using for the promo images.

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Casette posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 2:24 AM

Well... a reason for render with background would be to fake DoF, for example. You have a pic with your character and background, and in photoshop your select the alpha channel, invert selection and apply gaussian blurr with value 2 or 3 But if you want to use a different background, better to render without image


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tastiger posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 2:52 AM

But doesn't Poser 6 has DoF anyway?

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Casette posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 3:54 AM

Yes, but... I think you need a supermachine... If firefly with ILB and AO spends a whole life in each render, DoF I suppose you need several of your next re-incarnations for a single pic ... at least in my computer


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LanceB posted Wed, 19 October 2005 at 12:23 PM

For tastigers question: Sometimes I do a lot of quick renders in a series and then later go back and tweak the figure and background in Photoshop for just the best ones (comes from my photography background) For this reason I save one render as a jpg and another as a psd in case I want to go back and fix it up. I like to do renders on a larger scale but unfortunately Poser causes a lot of pixelation of the backgrounds in the large renders. For this reason I have used the P4 render engine because it is fast. That worked very well in P5 but does not work in P6. So my current workaround is to save a quick render jpg (with pixelated background) and another as a png in case I want to take the time to make a really nice scene in photoshop over a nice 5MP photo background.