Zygote_Spokesperson opened this issue on Dec 16, 2005 ยท 69 posts
Zygote_Spokesperson posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 8:56 AM
Attached Link: Open Source Zygote Woman and Poser Rig
Just wanted to let you know there is a Poser rig that we are offering for Open Source available at 3DScience.com. The model and rig are open source so you can do just about anything you want with it, including commercial redistribution of your new creations. Just read the license at the link. You just need to signup for a 3DScience.com account and it's available for download.
Have fun.
Zygote Media Group and 3DScience.com
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randym77 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 9:20 AM
If you're using Firefox, switch to IE. Firefox doesn't work on the 3dScience site.
infinity10 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 9:27 AM
cool. getting it. had tried rigging the male figure as a learning exercise - failed to get a decent result.
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Ghostofmacbeth posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 9:33 AM
Looks good ... I would liek the male figure more though :)
artbyphil posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 10:45 AM
Is it possible to join this site without entering my credit card? I don't like to fill this in until I actually want to buy something. It also keeps asking me to fill in the billing province which I have done.
randym77 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 10:49 AM
You don't need to put your credit card info in. I didn't.
xantor posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 11:08 AM
It was the billing province that I had trouble with.
Jules53757 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 11:20 AM
I registered, got a confirmation mail but still not able to download :(((((
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
pokeydots posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 11:21 AM
Thanks ;o)
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pakled posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 11:42 AM
OT- have you seen the prices for some of these models?! I'll never laugh at TuSid again..$6,000*..for a model? what would Patsy say?..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
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SamTherapy posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 12:09 PM
The signup screen does not accept UK counties or postal codes.
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dasquid posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 12:26 PM
I signed up and now every time I try to download anythign it tries to make me register/login again.
UVDan posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 12:42 PM Forum Moderator
Too bad Zygote won't let me have the open source models.
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Gareee posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 12:55 PM
worked fine for me.. windows xp explorer here...
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Mazak posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 12:55 PM
Thank you very much! I am German. There was no problem with sign up. No CC Information required. Mazak
randym77 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:05 PM
Gee, this part of the license rules out a large chunk of Poserdom... ;-)
The Open Source 3D Content cannot be used in the explicit depiction or exhibition of sexual activity that is intended to stimulate erotic, rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
Foxseelady posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:16 PM
I keep getting sent in circles, click download, sends me to login in, sends me to the open source page, click download....you get the idea lol
randym77 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:17 PM
Are you using Internet Explorer? Firefox doesn't work on this site.
artbyphil posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:36 PM
Yes I've got the sent in circles problem too and I'm using internet explorer. Also got the problem with it not excepting UK postcodes.
randym77 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:40 PM
You could use a U.S. address. A lot of them out there, if you Google. :) Would it be legal to post a copy of this file somewhere else, for those who can't run the Science3D obstacle course? I wasn't sure, afte reading the license.
xantor posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:49 PM
If you type in the first part of your postcode it should work. (it worked for me).
SamTherapy posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 2:53 PM
Nice one, xantor. It worked fine. :)
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
Mazak posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 3:08 PM
Mazak posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 3:12 PM
artbyphil posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 3:41 PM
what is please fill in billing province actually asking me for . I've tried allsorts in there but it keeps on asking for it.
odeathoflife posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 4:56 PM
why wouldn't it be legal to host somewhere else it is open source :)
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randym77 posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 5:21 PM
Well, it's not completely open, as the quote in message 17 shows. It says you can re-distribute if you add to the original, but it doesn't say anything about distributing it unmodified (that I could tell, anyway). They are requiring names, addresses, and e-mail addresses to download it, and if I put it up on my web site, a lot of names and addresses they might have collected, they won't get.
richardson posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 5:31 PM
@ Mazak Are the joints that good? Or, is your posing that good? Or, both...lol Seriously,,she appears to have some complex folds at the arm and the rest seems really good.
Mazak posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 5:56 PM
Mazak
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richardson posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 6:14 PM
@Mazak Thanks> She is fine in the safe range like V3. Here, she is falling down to the Miki level of mesh deformation...at least on forearms. Got time for the infamous 45degree hip bend???
artistheat posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 6:28 PM
Okay someone make a template...LOL..Thanks Zygote
Mazak posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 7:27 PM
Gareee posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 7:56 PM
Looks like her elbows and knees joints could use some work...
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
richardson posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 7:58 PM
thanks Mazak!
mylemonblue posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 8:07 PM
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
layingback posted Fri, 16 December 2005 at 9:08 PM
Same access problem here. I'm logged in (menu displays Logout option), click the Download button, and I'm greeted with Login screen (menu displays Login option). But note I'm not logged out!!! Click on any main menu selection - WITHOUT loging in again, and I'm back logged in (menu displays Logout option)! Weird. This is using IE or Mozilla. Seems Open Source is limited not only to IE, but to just Internet Explorer v6? My hunch is theytrack that you got here only from the Download page, using some code that only works on IE6. Bummer...
operaguy posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 3:17 AM
how about an image of the inner elbow at various bend angles...would love to see if she has the bent-drinking-straw inner elbow. Frmo the images here, her upper arms, although still unnatually bowed in, are not as bad as vickie and Jessie and practically every other Poser model. In image 24, the hair unfortunately hides the collar line. I wonder if she has the typical unnatural shoulder pads. ::::: Opera :::::
artistheat posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 8:23 AM
MarianneR posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:21 AM
I'm using a mac and finally managed to download using IE 5. As I'm in Europe I put n/a in the billing province field and that worked.
ToolmakerSteve posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:28 AM
I also get sent in circles when try to download. Using IE 6 on Win XP.
xantor posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:36 AM
Try putting your city in the billing province field and then three characters in the small part.
MarianneR posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:36 AM
At first I registered using Safari and was sent in circles trying to download. Then I started IE, logged in and was able to download.
artistheat posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:43 AM
ToolmakerSteve posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:46 AM
Tried download on a second computer, also Win XP & IE 6. Still sent in circles. But it was from the same IP address. I'm betting that their web programmer made a mistake, and that their server is somehow remembering its decision that I'm an unregistered user. Bet if I try again in an hour or two (or perhaps tomorrow) it will magically work.
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Nance posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 10:40 AM
off to go check, but really now-
Q:
What happens when you let the accounting dept. name a product?
A:
"3DScience-Poser-Rigged-Open-Source-Zygote-Female" whew!
(Not gonna be signin' many autographs with that tip-o-the-tongue moniker)
They leaving it up to the kids this time?
Chris posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 12:16 PM
looks very good ... thank you very much greets Chris
"It Is Useless To Resist!" - Darth Vader
mylemonblue posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 3:59 PM
The free-open source figure is very cool. Thanks Zytgote and 3DScience.com
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My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
Nance posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 5:11 PM
dumdeedohdum..... stuck it the login/download/login/download vortex also. Could it be a timing thing? Any of you that got trapped initially still locked out after 24hrs?
Nance posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 5:38 PM
Actually, I did just get in and downloading now, so may just be a delay/database update/timing kinda thing.
In between though, I'd also:
-opened the registration confirmation email from them
-logged off/
-rebooted/logged in again so had a new IP. Who knows.
Anyway, to save anyone else some frustration, I did notice that while stuck in the loop, even after repeatedly "logging in" the indicator at the top of their page never did actually change from the "Login" indicator to "Log Out" as displayed now and circled in the capture above.
That is just to say that I assume you should quit playing its game and bail if it still says LOGIN after filling in the login boxes - it will change when it actually lets you in.
ToolmakerSteve posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 6:37 PM
As I predicted, when I tried again now I get in fine. So anyone having trouble, just come back a few hours after your first login attempt.
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layingback posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 8:57 PM
Yep, got in - ToolmakerSteve seems to have called it correctly. Wait until their server has lost it's mind ( a few hours perhaps, I let a day go by). Then Login BEFORE making any attempt to download. Then it should open a new browser window and then things work fine. If you attempt to download without being logged in, their server is going to harbor a grudge - at least for a few hours ;-) This was with IE 5. (Yeah, yeah, I know, but I never use IE for anything but WinUpdate - or until I encounter a site is designed this M$-myopic. Open source with conditions I understand, but open source which is only available using proprietary browsers is well, strange ... )
ToolmakerSteve posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:10 PM
How about "open source with a license whose TERMS are COPYRIGHTED"??? Read the license. Someone doesn't want others to copy their LICENSE TERMS?! Ultimate bizarreness. While this has no influence on what permissions you have to use the MATERIALS you are downloading, it still makes me shudder.
nruddock posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:31 PM
Even the GPL is copyrighted (as is all OSS).
Copyright is what makes OSS licenses work.
ToolmakerSteve posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 9:52 PM
Ah, I'm talking about whether the LICENSE ITSELF is copyrighted, NOT whether the STUFF BEING PROVIDED is copyrighted. Of course the STUFF is copyrighted.
In other words, GPL'd stuff is copyrighted, but I didn't think the GPL license itself was a copyrighted work. Many licenses are not -- that is, you are free to write your own license, borrowing terms from existing licenses.
Note that this license says "the wording and conditions of this license are Copyrighted ...". I've never seen that clause before. But then I don't usually bother to read licenses; I know what publishers do and don't want me to do.
=> I don't want to hijack this thread with a discussion of copyright. I came back here to delete my post before someone responded to it, but since it is too late for that, let me just request we not discuss this topic further on this thread. <= If anyone does wish to discuss copyright or licensing further, please do so by starting a new thread, then posting here a link to that thread. That way, only interested people need follow that link.
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ynsaen posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 4:24 AM
thread drift lives, and I'm not interested in starting a new thread. The figure appears to be rigged to the P5/6 spec, and is actually rather nice -- quite a refreshing change. Small tweaks here and there. As for licenses: all licenses, themselves, are covered by copyright, stated or not. IPOF, their statement is redundant. Redundancy in this case may be a good thing. Should be intersting to see what sort of support the figure recieves, and whether or not there will be a male rig to complement...
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operaguy posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 5:20 AM
Two letters: WW
tastiger posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 1:11 PM
Ok - I have been a member since I received the newsletter from from Zygote during the week but when I click on the "download" link I get sent to a page with all the non free models and can't sem to find the open source models anywhere - what am I doing wrong?
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lmckenzie posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 2:13 PM
"...can't sem to find the open source models anywhere..." Try the "Open Source" link on the left hand menu maybe? Download took me to: http://www.3dscience.com/Free_Open_Source_3D_Horse_Model_Download.asp which has the actual DL link. I signed up and started downloading, haven't checked to see if the email even arrived. Windows 2000/Slim Browser (IE 6 core).
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tastiger posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 2:26 PM
I finally got it by right clicking on the link - sti;; not sure where that link hid for the last 5 days - but downloading now... Be interesting to see the difference between this one and the model DAD produced. Also DAD has made a the male version poserfied about 3 months ago....
The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of
it alive.
Robert A. Heinlein
11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-11900K @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz
64.0 GB (63.9 GB usable)
Geforce RTX 3060 12 GB
Windows 11 Pro
Nance posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 4:13 PM
uh... who/what/where is "DAD" please?
tastiger posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 4:36 PM
Hi Nance.
DAD is DAD David (Tahir) Deschamphelaere
I can't find the link to his site at the moment, but I think you will find the link to "Z Man" if you go to Sixus Media.
David actually was the first to poserize both the Zygote man and woman not long after they were released.
I've been telling people on these forums about them for ages - but sometimes things just don't sink in.....
Kept seeing posts like "When will someone poserize the Zygote Open Source models?" Now I'm back to Poser 6ifying my Xmas tree and then see if anyone is interested in downloading it :) edited to correct typos
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The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of
it alive.
Robert A. Heinlein
11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-11900K @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz
64.0 GB (63.9 GB usable)
Geforce RTX 3060 12 GB
Windows 11 Pro
tastiger posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 5:06 PM
I must be the only person who downloaded them :)
The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of
it alive.
Robert A. Heinlein
11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-11900K @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz
64.0 GB (63.9 GB usable)
Geforce RTX 3060 12 GB
Windows 11 Pro
Jules53757 posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 5:21 PM
No, you were not ;) but dad has upates but the page he named was not available.
Ulli
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"
Nance posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 5:29 PM
thanks for the add'l info tastiger
infinity10 posted Sun, 18 December 2005 at 10:27 PM
I for one would sure like to see DaD's poserised versions. Looked over at Sixus but did not find the right links. Will look again later.
Eternal Hobbyist
DAD posted Mon, 19 December 2005 at 12:20 AM
Oh well ... Here I am ... go away for a few years and people finally start talking about you. LOL Anyone interested can find the original Z-Woman, Z-Man, and Z-Girl that I did off the Zygote models at my webstore: www.mythosrnd.com Go to the store section and scroll down to the freebies link. They are there with a few other items. One of these days I will get around to doing a version2.0 but it's not on the plate yet. If there is enough interest I might break down and do them. I have some big plans for the V2 versions, but there has been so little interest in OS3D that I kind of got side tracked into other areas.
infinity10 posted Mon, 19 December 2005 at 3:32 AM
cool !!
Eternal Hobbyist
ToolmakerSteve posted Mon, 19 December 2005 at 5:36 PM
I am thrilled to see open source human models available. Re the Open Source 3D models, I tried to download them, from open3dproject.org, but even after logging in, every one simply said "Access Denied". For the Zygote ones, I am happy to hear about DAD's rigs -- downloading them now -- thanks DAD. For the Project Humans, I found the ContentParadise links for downloading one of them(apologies if I'm stating the obvious): Project Human: Female - LoRes http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11902 Are the other two (Project Human: Male, and the NOT loRes Female) available anywhere?
ToolmakerSteve posted Mon, 19 December 2005 at 5:51 PM
Huh. Content Paradise's Advanced Search is rather sad, as it apparently lacks a way to say "only show me Project AND Human", and then didn't seem to list them, even after looking through pages of unrelated figures. But I finally noticed them under "Related Links" from one item: Project Human: Female http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11693 Project Human: Male http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11694