cedarwolf opened this issue on Dec 21, 2005 ยท 22 posts
cedarwolf posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 7:56 AM
Ok, everyone ignored the first post so let me rephrase my request. I'm working on an academic project with no funding or grants of any sort to create a visual version of the Epic of Gilgamesh. In short, a comic book of a piece of classic literature. The purpose is for a study on the use of graphic literature (comics) in the process of teaching remedial reading (teaching folks who can't read or read poorly to read beter). I'm looking for free items, including hair and M3/Freak body textures that are extremly hairy, that are from that general period. This also includes the highly stylized hair and beards that are seen in museum pieces from that period. Might anyone have any ideas, links, or suggestions? I'm already experimenting with the MultiFreak 2.1 for the characte of Inkidu, Gilgamesh' companion... Thanks you for your time and attention.
mrsparky posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 8:15 AM
cedarwolf posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 8:26 AM
Not what, who. He's the central character of possibly the worlds oldest piece of epic literature. Here's a quick link on basic info: http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/196606/gilgamesh.htm Pretty neat person, really.
nruddock posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 8:26 AM
Attached Link: http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/GILG.HTM
See attached link.mrsparky posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 9:14 AM
ahh. When I went to school Thatcher was in, they fed us only a meagre diet of "to kill a mockingbird". The only heroic material we came close to was a small dose of beowulf.
fetter posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:15 AM
Woody Allen said, "Never take an English course where they make you read 'Beowulf'". I suppose the same could be said for the Gilgamesh epic.
jeffg3 posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:23 AM
Gilgamesh rocks!
steerpike posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:25 AM
I can't help you with the items, but I'd encourage you with the idea - it's been done with the Bible, and it works. If it's any help, Google for 'Lion Graphic Bible.' One of the aims there was to reach those with reading/writing difficulties, or for whom English is a second language. Good luck.
Keith posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:25 AM
Akkadian - Ancient culture in the Middle East from Akkad. Acadian - French-Canadian culture of Acadia (Acadie), part of which later formed the Cajun culture of Louisiana.
pakled posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:40 AM
That's the guy who hung with Endiku, right?..;) sad to say, I only know of it through Riverworld..;) If you have a source for pics, etc., maybe that would be a help. Some folks could see what you're looking for, maybe see what could be substituted. All I can think of are really curly, straight, long beards. And that could be the wrong bunch, anyway.
Hmm..a Cajun Gilgamesh..;)
and I actually read Beowulf..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
randym77 posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:50 AM
Post some images of what you're looking for. Even those of us who know about Gilgamesh have no idea of what you want.
For example, when you say "hairy," is that hairy like a guy with a lot of chest hair, or hairy like Chewbacca?
zarquen posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 3:29 PM
Well, in DAZ, you could use: - Millenium LONG beard - Morphing fantasy beard - M3 tunic set (lots of textures, too) It's quite a bit difficult. You can find millions of Medieval items, even Greeks, Romans or Egiptians, but is hard to see a good sumerian set. Good luck, I'd love that project to be sucessful.
Acadia posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 6:45 PM
Quote - Acadian - French-Canadian culture of Acadia (Acadie), part of which later formed the Cajun culture of Louisiana.
The inspiration behind my board name :)
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
volfin posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 8:08 PM
aww, I thought at first you meant Gargamel, the guy from the smurfs... :(
nomuse posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 5:10 AM
I started laughing when I saw you were looking for hairy textures for The Freak. "Hairy Antagonist" indeed! Of course that about completes my knowledge of the epic. Sumerian tough. A fair amount of middle-kingom Egyptian stuff lately, though, and perhaps some of that could be adapted. At least is closer starting point then, say, medieval!
DrunkMonkey posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 8:29 AM
There's some Biblical clothing at Poserworld that might work. IIRC it's for the P4 characters though (might've been updated though).
mrsparky posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 5:41 PM
Poserworlds (PW) biblical figures are avaliable for V3. Plus theres a Biblical set with props plus some desert scenes I used the PW arab for M3 recently, just hide the knife and makes a good moses.
nomuse posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 6:20 PM
Yeah, hide the knife. Everyone knows Moses was packing a rod.
ynsaen posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 6:31 PM
groans
thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)
mickmca posted Thu, 22 December 2005 at 7:11 PM
There's a long-time costumer who's done some ancient Persian military gear somewhere, like Osprey illustrations. Not John Maveris? He did the Viking and Saxon stuff at DAZ some years ago. That might be worth a dig about. Certainly Steve Shanks is the guy who's most likely to take up this sort of challenge, especially if there is some sort of Osprey book on Sumer, so if you don't have a PoserWorld subscription, think about it. Good luck, and I love Beowulf, though Gardner's Grendel is more fun. M
linnymac posted Mon, 26 December 2005 at 9:28 PM
I've always loved Beowolf, and think Grendel is a misunderstood person. I'd also like to see a "postmodernist" treatment of The Wife of Bath, The Pardoners Tale, and several other bits of Canterbury Tales.
I'll look around for the suggested Persian stuff, and I've never heard of the Osprey books...going now to google them...
Thanks, folks. Say, just found this link: http://www.larp.com/hoplite/bronze.html Some interesting stuff there.
Message edited on: 12/26/2005 21:33
mickmca posted Tue, 27 December 2005 at 6:47 AM
Osprey is a house that publishes nothing but books on military gear. The audience is military hobbyists, miniatures gamers, and such. They are usually found on a rack in your local hobby shop. They cover "everything." There's a whole raft of them for various uniforms of the Civil War and one on Zulu warrior costume. Good luck. M