StaceyG opened this issue on Jan 17, 2006 · 123 posts
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 1:44 PM
Here are a few items that we have updated due to suggestions and feedback received. This will be an ongoing process so keep checking back in this forum for more:)
Thank you,
Stacey
Community Manager
-BrandyE- posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:00 PM
Thank you very much for this - and thank you for working to make the marketplace as user friendly and comfy as possible.
Brandy
adh3d posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:09 PM
Klutz posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:17 PM
Steps in the right direction.
Still could do with the date of expiry of sale putting in on the wishlist page though :0/ It used to save clicking on every sale item in the wishlist to find out when it expired.
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StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:24 PM
Keep watching Klutz:) Be on there before you know it!! Stac
Klutz posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:29 PM
Righto! Thank you! :0)
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DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:29 PM
The new setup, in my mind, is a SETBACK. The wishlist should stay where it is and be on the same page as the shopping cart. This is more hassle than its worth. I thought the old setup was FAR FAR more useful and user-friendly. You could compare your shopping cart with your wishlist and move things back and forth... what's more, is that I never saw the message on the front page that was supposedly there that was a warning that our shopping cart items would disappear. So that is gone, the list that I had been making for a while that I intended to purchase today-its gone. I'm really rather upset, that's about 200 of dollars that I was going to buy this weekend with my first paycheck, and then this kind of crap. After working on the list for about 3 months... no way can I just remember everything on it or just search through renderosity till I find it again. I just have to say that this takes the cake, what a let down from Renderosity.
dlk30341 posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:42 PM
Thank you for fixing the wishlist so quickly, much appreciated :)
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:43 PM
UserAlia, We really apologize that you didn't see any of the information regarding the shopping cart loss but it was posted in a Front Page Article, plus a Forum post here in the Community Center and in the Newsletter. Please be patient with us as we work through any adjustments and tweaks for the Marketplace. Thank you, Stacey
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 2:46 PM
Sale Ending Date is now displayed on the products promotional page.
Add to Cart button now displaying under the product thumbnail
We'll keep them coming!!!
Stacey
DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 3:34 PM
Can you put cart and wishlist on the same page again? It was one thing that I thought was particularly brilliant about Renderosity and now its been changed to two different pages. :( What a hassle...
odeathoflife posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 3:51 PM
can we have a thumbnail in the wishlist|cart? like 100x100 or something?
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XENOPHONZ posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 3:53 PM
I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'll repeat it here --
I'd like to see another button for "wishlist" included in the row of buttons at the top of the Marketplace pages. Especially on the cart page. If the cart/wishlist aren't located on the same page, it should at least be easy to navigate back and forth between them.
Thanks.
XENOPHONZ posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 4:01 PM
I'd like to see the "move to wishlist" button added back into the cart. It's handy. And it's a bit of a hassle without it.
Thanks.
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 4:09 PM
Thanks everyone. I am taking note of all these suggestions and will be seeing what we can do on them. Stacey
Ardiva posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 4:18 PM
cliff-dweller posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 4:29 PM
MUCH better functionality with the wishlist, now...thank you Stacey. I agree it would be nice to have the cart back on the same page as the wishlist and be able to move things back-and-forth easily. But this version of the wishlist is really usable, now! I think the big "R" for Renderosity Exclusive just clutters it up a bit, but if having that is the only way to have the "Sale" logo, that's fine since I REALLY like knowing what's on sale on my wishlist. Thanks again...keep up the great work with the improvements!!
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Klutz posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 4:34 PM
OK how about these for further refinements of the wishlist?: As I requested earlier the return of expiry dates of sales so you don't have to keep clicking each sale item to check it. Also.. How about having it sortable by column... Item Vendor Price Status That would make it even more user friendly.
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Dizzi posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 4:39 PM
As you're running Apache, how about using mod rewrite to make all the old store links work?
DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 5:08 PM
Amen, Xeno....
jtbethel posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 5:21 PM
Looking at the above suggestions. There seems to be one clear solution. GO BACK TO AS IT WAS . Renderosity wasn't broken there, try fixing where it is broken - the artist pages , the Gallery.
cliff-dweller posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:14 PM
jtbethel, I just don't think it's a reasonable expectation that they would go back to how it was. Our best hope is to work with them with our suggestions on how they can modify what they have while they have all the technicians on hand to tweak it. This is the new version of the Bondware software that they will market to other comapnies and they're just not going to abandon it.
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DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:21 PM
Still, they left behind a lot more functionality... why? TO make it look newer? I'd rather have the cart/wishlist on the same page where I can move things back and forth. Having to click on account, then wishlist, then the item, then add it to cart... frankly, that DISCOURAGES buying. Seems somewhat self-defeating for that kind of setup. My wishlist was my way of keeping track of what to buy, and when. Now its so disorganized, that I almost don't want to bother.. which means, if it doesn't go on the wishlist, and I dont have money at the time... it won't get bought, ever. At the very least, lets hope they add a link on the main page for the wishlist, along with the cart. And make the "add to wishlist" link bigger on an item page... I spent forever looking for it. Sure miss the old format... it made a lot more sense than this one.
jtbethel posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:29 PM
cliff-dweller, I can't get into YOUR gallery. How does that make YOU feel. New software does not mean less functionallity. No doubt it will get better in time, with our moans. but they should have done their homework and got it right the first time. And please get rid of the BABY, what the hell do they think this site is?
jtbethel posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:35 PM
Oh, and has anybody noticed that the BY RANKING is backwards and starts with the lowest ranked sales and the best are on page 300 and something.
cliff-dweller posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:38 PM
jtbethel & UserAlia, I agree 100% with your complaints...I'm NOT defending the new site one bit and have stated my feelings in several threads yesterday & today. As for not being able to reach my gallery...I have started several threads over the past several months about the slowness of the site...it has really made it so I can't even visit my friends' galleries anymore and that has made me very sad & upset. All this coming from someone who very rarely writes in the forums. All I'm suggesting is that even with all the calls to go back to the old version of the store, I can't imagine the PTB's would even entertain that thought for a second. Though I too wish they would!
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cliff-dweller posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:45 PM
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squeeka posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 6:59 PM
Can someone please fix the links from peoples homepage public wishlists to the martketplace too? I'd like to buy something for a friend and it was much easier to click the link on their homepage and have it go right in my cart as a gift for them. And another thing, can you please put the updated products on their own page? I don't always get emails when things are updated and it's nice to be able to see which has been. I know a few of the products I've bought in the past were updated but they say N/A now in the item list. Just a couple of minor things :)
Natolii posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 7:00 PM
Frankly the store is not optimized for screen sizes at all. At 1024 x 768 I still have pages that go off the screen. Tell me was the store designed with anything other than MSIE in mind?
Ardiva posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 7:08 PM
Natolii posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 7:24 PM
I was going through my purchases and everything was either extending off the page or Scrunching the Item name so tight that it leads me to believe that the column for the Item name is not set to a maximum width. It is set to a variable width and causing this issue... I actually have some experience in HMTL.
TerraDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 7:30 PM
When I click the link to an on-line store from a user's page, I get a page not found error. On all of those users who have on-line stores here. Anybody else notice this?
Natolii posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 7:38 PM
Yeah, Terra. I know a merchant that is none too pleased with some of the "glitches."
DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:02 PM
Another complaint: Before you could click on a merchant's name, such as under a product they made, and it would take you to the merchant's page: with links to their store, galleries, wishlist, and a link to message or email them. Now, that link is gone. I want to send a message to a merchant, and now its another hassle to get in touch with the merchant. Why did renderosity have to go and ruin so many good things for the sake of being "new" and "updated" and "modern" of whatever their reasons were... since its obviously FULL of glitches and inconvenience!!!
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:06 PM
UserAlia, Some of the features such as the one you mentioned will not be functional until the entire site is converted. Thanks Stacey
jtbethel posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:09 PM
You mean your going to ruin it even more?
DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:17 PM
Well... they might, Jtbethel, but who knows? maybe its just so messed up because part of it is missing? I hope they make a LOT of improvements though... I'm wasting so much time clicking through everything.
TerraDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:18 PM
"Some of the features such as the one you mentioned will not be functional until the entire site is converted." Hi Stacey, getting much sleep? :) I would hope the rest of the site conversion comes far more quickly rather than later. As I mentioned above, when you go to a users page, and if they have an on-line store, if you click the link to their store you get a page not found error. I discovered some really nice Photoshop brushes last night. Thankfully I'd bookmarked the URL to the marketplace where they're located. I'd hate to see this vendor or any other lose out on sales. I know you can select individual vendors in the MarketPlace, but I feel the link is critical on the artists' pages as well as many of these vendors are discovered via their home pages. Just an observation :)
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:21 PM
jtbethel, We are welcoming suggestions, do you have any helpful ones? The Bondware 3.0 platform will be staying and the Community will be converting over soon as well. So our focus now is on listening to members helpful suggestions to try and make adjustments where we can. We really appreciate all the wonderful suggestions we have received in this thread as well as the other threads. Regards, Stacey Community Manager
StaceyG posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:25 PM
Hi Terra, No, not getting much sleep this week, LOL. I understand what you are saying and I will be forwarding this to the programmers to see what might could be done in the short term until we are completely converted. Thank you again for all the helpful suggestions. Stacey
Emilieu posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:25 PM
I have to say - I don't see any of the vaunted 'improvements'. Why is the website so bulky, ungainy, and non-user-friendly now? I saw news that the market software was changing, but where, oh WHERE did it mention this horrible, hateful, faceflop? It's certainly not a facelift! Distressing, completely distressing...and once I was so proud of Renderosity! Please, for all that's merciful, please try to restore some of it! Keep the so-called 'improvements' to the wishlist, and leave the poor, abused website out of the muck! This is just....well, GHASTLY. Not what one could, by any means, call "improvement"!
DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:26 PM
Agreed... I don't know much about what bondware is... or anything about what it is... but is it really impossible to keep the same layout, even if you're using a different platform? Some of the changes- like moving the wishlist completely far away from the cart- are not even clever-they border ridiculous. Why can't you just copy over the same setup and layout?
jtbethel posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:33 PM
The setup (apart from the speed) was very good before, very user-friendly, but now there seems to be a lot of missing features and more hassle to get where you want to.accont pages, wishlist, incorrect `by rating', downloading page, seems like changes for the sake of changes.I know that it takes time to get used to something new but this is different. Good things are missing. Lets hope it get corrected soon. I personally would be happy to see the old site as it was (but quicker) if it ain't broke...........
Emilieu posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:33 PM
They need people who really know the web and understand that customers don't like drastic change like this - having to learn a website all over. It's common sense to want to keep the consumers happy, but they're overlooking that. Unfortunately I really don't have the time - or patience - to learn the new layout. It would have been nice, methinks, if Renderosity could have possibly POLLED the community about certain changes, instead of hitting them in the face with them? Isn't that, after all, part of being a community?
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DisparateDreamer posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 8:53 PM
It might have been up to the vendor (whatever that means). I dont mind the setup, other than the fact that they've also made it a set-back. Getting to things takes at least a few clicks longer... plus the time it takes to find the links... and not easily find-able. Smaller print, half-hidden links, unable to find merchants' pages, etc etc... It seems like this new set up will be hurting everyone- Merchants, vendors, buyers, artists, and all. I dont mind a new setup, but when its this un-usuable... well lets hope promises are actually followed through and that this setup gets fixed and more user friendly.
odeathoflife posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 9:20 PM
Folks renderosity IS bondwares coupe de grace :) What innovations they make with the bondware content management system they are going to impliment on Renderosity. And yes the store is an innovation, some may not like it but it is a WIP, I am almost positive that once the whole site is converted over to 3.0 the improvments will be evident.
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Emilieu posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 9:40 PM
When? In 2007? 2008? Before I get fed up with it entire?
Digitell posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 9:51 PM
Thanks!! :)
kiwigraphics posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 9:55 PM
Sorry but I really don't like this new layout... you have to click more times to get to places where less clicks where required before. The old one was much more use friendly. Karen
ariannah posted Tue, 17 January 2006 at 10:35 PM
Stacey, apologies if this has already been requested, but with so many MP topics all over the forums, it's more then a tad nuts trying to keep up. :D
Can the product upload date be put back? I found this very useful as I'd prefer not wasting money on outdated products that may not be up to speed with newer versions of software, ie: Poser 6, etc. This would not only help buyers (a great feature before the change), but should also save R'osity and its merchants a lot of headaches with possible requests for refunds.
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FSMCDesigns posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 12:10 AM
Hi, I can only echo ariannah's comments, the date of posting is very important for my purchases also. Michael
Regards, Michael
Shardz posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 12:19 AM
I just noticed something that really needs to be fixed. When you click on the 'Sample Image' links and go to say promo image #2, it doesn't highlight which promo image page you are on. I ended up clicking on the same one twice because it doesn't state which one you are viewing. I also noticed yesterday that it stated on top of the MP how many members were online, and now it doesn't. I thought that was kind of a cool feature that should be put back in. The 'Baby' page will hopefully be replaced with a nav menu like the old version...I dunno about everyone else, but when I see that baby I want to toss. I'd rather see an angry demon rising from an inferno, that would be more symbolic.
hauksdottir posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 12:35 AM
Stacey, Can you please add to your list... a boolean search function? We desperately need a better search tool on this site. Being able to specify "title" or "title and description" (like at eBay) would help. A lot. If I'm looking for a hair model, I don't need to see all the items which simply credit the use of other people's hair, or the chair the model is seated upon! The Google search engine is clever enough to identify misspellings (do you realize how many ways people here (merchants and customers) type "medieval"?), but they have real linguists working for them. In the meantime, I'd be happy with something like 3dcommune's setup with "and" and "or" buttons. Being able to use pluses and minuses would be great. 3 fields is plenty. I realize that there will be squawkers no matter what is done, but the current search feature is so utterly useless that anything will be an improvement in the shopping experience. Thanks for listening and taking notes! Carolly
ariannah posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 12:47 AM
I'll echo Carolly for the request for an improved search function. Man, I gotta tell you it's like the lost labyrinth of Stephen King's topiary maze in there. I can't begin to explain what's come up with some of my searches and believe me, I've tried every trick in the book.
Thanks from me as well to all the behind the scenes elves who do seem to be listening. It's encouraging to see some of our requests already in place!
~arry
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kenmizuki posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 1:25 AM
Thanks man. I think all item should have 2 date. the first is upload date , the second one is Update time. :D
goldie posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 1:37 AM
Many thanks for attending to the "wishlist"...big improvement.. just a few things that i would like to see remedied: 1. ability to move items from cart to wishlist 2. upload date for merchandise on product page 3. function to notify you that you've already purchased the item or that it's in your wishlist (like it was before) REALLY important... many thanks
judee3d posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 2:31 AM
I want to add my thanks for all the hard work - it shows that you are really paying attention and working on our "wishes". Looks like most of my personal concerns have been fixed, or are being fixed. Meanwhile, let me say what I Do like. I like the navigation bar on the left, especially having my account, shopping cart, and wishlist all together. And the other links too. Freebies, for example. :) Just a personal preference, of course. Wondering if the site will follow through once it is converted... I LOVE the huge images of the product at the top of the product pages. I don't mind scrolling down to the price and other info. It's impressive to see a big look at the item first off. That may be personal opinion, of course, but I like it. I do think some of the "required products" may need work - I've seen a few outfits thus far (haven't browsed more than a few pages) where the outfit is a texture map, requiring a previous outfit - but this isn't mentioned in the initial "required" part - in most cases it is mentioned in the merchants info on their item, but not on the store info. And not always a like to the opriginal clothes. It would be nice to have that info (plus link if it's a RMP item) along with the other info. But perhaps this is something you are working on. Meanwhile, keep up the good work, sleep when you can (naps are good) and thanks to all who are working on getting this up to speed. It may seem to some like it wasn't "ready" but how else is a changeover going to work? The only way to get public opinion is to show it first and let us howl about what we want changed. ;D Oh one last thing - I tend to agree about the baby. Might have been a cute idea, but my first reaction was that you had actually made a baby figure (similar to the mil baby) then I realized it was the marketplace. All the best, judee3d
DisparateDreamer posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 3:19 AM
Agreed about the baby thing... I thought, "is this the daz baby somehow?" and then realized it was just another wasted click... as if you can't tell the market place was "new" and "different," but the added picture and click was just... irritating.
hauksdottir posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 5:49 AM
Oh, if I wasn't clear about pluses and minuses... plus means that the word must be in the search, and minus that it must be excluded. Example: [Hair] [+Jessi] should yield only hair which fits Jessi. [ship] [-space] should yield boats and not spaceships. Carolly
jesserev posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 7:15 AM
Not sure if anyone has posted or noticed, but your "sale" emails still have the wrong marketplace link.
Bobbie25 posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 8:05 AM
O like the look but omg I am going blind A bit small
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-BrandyE- posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 9:27 AM
A couple of things I really, really, loved about shopping at the Renderosity marketplace and miss....and trust me, you guys got A LOT of my money...Anyway... I loved having the shopping cart, public and private wishlists all on the same page, with the ability to move items easily between them.... I liked having my purchase history where it was listed by each item I bought (with a hotlink to the product page) rather than the new setup where we just see order numbers in a list I also like the price and other pertinant info (add to cart, etc) on the top of the product page. Other things that I second the extreme need for: upload date for merchandise on product page function to notify you that you've already purchased the item or that it's in your wishlist REALLY important... Basically - I apprecaite the hard work and I KNOW it has been hard work. I also apprecaite that you are trying to create a more reliable marketplace for us all... But I sure did love the layout and interface of the old marketplace...It was easy to navigate, didn't require lots of uneccesarry scrolling and clicking, and was my favorite place to spend my play money....
Brandy
jonfe posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 10:26 AM
"function to notify you that you've already purchased the item or that it's in your wishlist (like it was before) REALLY important..." +1 Other quirks I can live with :)
StaceyG posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 10:31 AM
Member homepage: View member store link has now been fixed. I will be reporting things throughout the day that have been adjusted or added. Also I have gathered all the suggestions here down to the last post before this and forwarded to the admin team for review. Thank you all so much for the feedback. Stacey
Bismark41 posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 12:57 PM Online Now!
one step foward and two steps back
One of the things I really liked about the old marketplace was that if you tried to add a item to your cart that you had already purchased (or added to cart or wishlist) it told you. Now you have to check through your account purchased list which is no longer one long list but sorted into individual purchases. While it seem to remove the item from your wishlist if you put it into your cart from the product page which is an improvement, to take an item from the cart onto the wishlist is now a multi step process.
-BrandyE- posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 1:26 PM
oh - i just noticed a couple of other things....Now when viewing an item, I don't have the option to add a merchant to favorites? And product reviews...Wow - without those I hardly ever buy, I usually chose the read all reviews options and checked them all out....
Brandy
StaceyG posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 1:28 PM
Just want to remind everyone that you still have an items purchased list. When you click on Account it defaults to the Orders page, but if you click on the Items List, then you will see all purchases made by product name in alphabetical order by default you can sort by date purchased as well. Also you will see a column there at the end that says Updates and any updates made going forward will have a date in that field and you can sort by update as well to see which products you've purchased have been updated. Hope that helps some who having been thinking that you have to drill down into each order to see the products you've purchased. Thanks Stacey
StaceyG posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 1:31 PM
The product reviews will be coming back, its just not functional at the moment. I believe they are working on this today. I will post when I get an update of the Product review status. Thanks Stacey
nghayward posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 2:59 PM
Good to see all the improvements you've already made, but there are still a few things I miss. One is the sale end date when browsing through. I appreciate you've added it to the products page but if I see something's on sale while browsing that's about to finish being on sale I'll be more likely to buy (so it's in the stores interest) Also the search function doesn't seem to be working. I did a search for Miki earlier on and though I got a page of Miki related items the one thing I was after was not displayed(And a load of others I know exist)
cliff-dweller posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 3:47 PM
StaceyG wrote: "Just want to remind everyone that you still have an items purchased list. When you click on Account it defaults to the Orders page, but if you click on the Items List, then you will see all purchases made by product name in alphabetical order by default you can sort by date purchased as well." I'm wondering if it would make more sense to have it default to the Items List instead of the Orders List. I don't think the Orders List is very informative since I don't memorize the order numbers...I'd always want to see more details like what the product was I bought. This would eliminate one of those extra mouse clicks. Thanks
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StaceyG posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 4:33 PM
Hi Cliff, I tend to agree with you on the items list being the default. There were some reasons behind why its not done that way. Let me bring it up again and see what I can find out. Thanks Stacey
leather-guy posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 5:37 PM Online Now!
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rdonovan posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 6:08 PM
Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/
Have you spent enough time admiring some Rosity staffer's way-cute baby? Are you wondering how long an extra click will be required to enter the marketplace? Me too. Bookmark this link. Problem solved.Orio posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 8:24 PM
I previously posted this as a new thread but then noticed this one so i moved it here. I have two important dislikes with the new store. #1 the engine now does not prevent you anymore from loading into cart an item that you already bought. It just happened to me. This will make it possible for frequent buyers or longtime buyers to make mistakes and buy twice a same item - and then have to ask for refund etc. #2 it does not appear to be possible anymore to transfer items from the cart to the wishlist. This is a major limitation as far as my buying habits are concerned. I often place new items I like into the cart directly in order not to have them lost in the big wishlist I happen to have - then at checkout time I decide which to buy now and which to keep for later. Not being able to move stuff directly is going to be quite annoying. I hope that there may be a future store update that addresses these two points.
Orio posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 8:38 PM
Well, while I am at it, I add other small things - the title of the products is not enough visible - I can't remember exactly how it used to be in the old store but I would bet it had something more - whether it was a different font, or simply a bold style or larger size, or simply a different placement - in any way I remember it as being more visible than it is now. Product title has the same font size and quality (underscore) than the merchant name, also the same font and size of the price, and this is not visually effective. The product name should emerge in my opinion. Also I think that the "next" and "previous" links should be more prominent at the end of the pages - better if using a button and if placed above the lines of tiny numbers. Finally, why not add a "add to wishlist" button directly under the product thumbnails? Since the move from cart to wishlist is not available, this would help some with the discomfort.
Orio posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 8:59 PM
Another thing I noticed: in the account/item list of purchased items, the "sort by vendor" dropdown now lists all renderosity merchants. It was way much better the way it used to be before, when only the merchants whose products you did actually buy were present.
Lyne posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 10:03 PM
I was told to come post this here... to add my voice...while still sick with the flue, will just copy my individual post into this one.
Uhg... sorry.. don't like this... I USE my LISTED items, BY DATE (newest first) NEVER my order listing..(waste THAT is for me!) With this mish mosh of items listed by who knows what how can I go back and make a comment on a product once I use it? Or use it for reference?? I tried pushing "the purchase date" and it built the list, but LEAVE THAT PAGE and I have to do it all over again! :(
I WANT TO LOCK IN MY PURCHASES VIEW SO I CAN USE IT!
And my cart is now on a separate page? So I will have to bounce back and forth between wish list pages and cart page? and FYI the wishlist always showed if an item was on sale and hope the e mail notices of an item GOING on sale will still get sent!!
I LIKED all the catagories (with word links) on the first page, so I could go where I wanted... now I get bombarded with a bunch of product thumbs all lined up when I first get there?
I really liked the store the way it was... :( Faster is good (I notice the galleries are faster now?!?! Might be jus the time of day though) OH no... really Orio? I too will not use that, if ALL the merchants are listed in my own account page... sigh..
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Lyne posted Wed, 18 January 2006 at 10:16 PM
PS I have always wanted a GOOD SEARCH ENGINE here, and gave up any hope of one...I only TRY to use it when I just had to...but it seems to need the EXACT name and that defeats the purpose... Also, Stacey, I am guessing you are "just" this forum's moderator..that is a "go between" between us users and the higher ups... so personally, as I always tell on line store folks I call with problems - please don't think I am "yelling at you"...as you are not the policy maker (I think).... You have a rough job as mod!! You should get a pat on the back for this job (and I hope you actually get a paycheck!) At any rate.. hang in there!
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Seren posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 5:36 AM
What a mess the whole thing is! Pages aren't designed for 1280x1024 res so everythings small and squashed. Used to be perfect on the old site! This is a graphics based community of users therefore we don't use 800x 600!!!!!!! EVERYTHING was just great as it was. I just looked at my Wishlist. Everything mixed together, public & private. I have to say I just hate the whole lot of it and I'll not bother to buy anything for a while until they sort this mess out. I feel VERY negative and disappointed. Lots of red xs on the shopping pages, I don't know whether it's due to my firewall settings or their messups. I really can't be bothered to spend my time troubleshooting it. Yawn. If it ain't broke don't fix it would have been a good mantra to follow. Going to play with poser and forget the whole mess. I hope the vendors complain when their sales drop!!!!!! The renderosity shopping experience was always great before, much better than at Daz as far as I'm concerned. Now Renderosity have gone down the same drain. What a pity!
Orio posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 6:41 AM
This is a graphics based community of users therefore we don't use 800x 600 > Everything mixed together, public & private. > If it ain't broke don't fix > EVERYTHING was just great as it was. I have to sadly quote the above. I don't know why this had to change but I certainly am quite discomfortable with the whole new store design and features. In the annual surveys I always ranked the store experience as perfect - it didn't help much evidently.
cliff-dweller posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 12:15 PM
I really like the changes you've made since yesterday afternoon!! The nav bar is back on the right and the header has the links for the galeries, forums, freestuff etc, etc just like it did before...BRAVO and a BIG thank you!! [Thanks for taking down the cute baby pic, too ! ;-) ]
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StaceyG posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 12:41 PM
Thanks Cliff, glad you like the changes made since yesterday:) Just wanted to reiterate here what LillianH said in another thread that might help. "The changes to the marketplace were necessary to allow for more flexibility with a php format versus the old ez format. It is like starting over. However, enhancements and updates are coming daily. Please bear with us during these temporary growing pains. Once it's complete we believe it will be worth the momentary inconvenience of the transition." Thanks again, Stacey
Seren posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 2:58 PM
LOL I know I said I was going away until it was fixed. But I couldn't resist another look As the website designers do seem to be listening......... Thanks everyone :-) I really miss the proper descriptions of the products. All those words mashed together in tiny type without spacing are impossible to make any sense of. I really, really will miss all the live links through a thumbnail to Related Products when I buy something. I spend huge amounts that way. Buy them with the base product or add to my wishlist if I can't afford yet. I should be relieved they're not there! I may achieve solvency! hahahaha
-BrandyE- posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 8:56 PM
just trying to shop for a friend and thought of something else....I can't find a way, from a merchants store or item page, to email or im the merchant, which coincidentally led to a page where you could find their gallery, artist page. wishlist, etc.....Those were features that I used a LOT and will miss
Brandy
-BrandyE- posted Thu, 19 January 2006 at 8:59 PM
and why can't i find anyones wish list?!?!?!!? It shouldn't be this hard to give you guys my money.....
Brandy
jesserev posted Fri, 20 January 2006 at 7:33 AM
I would really like to see the search parameters of Hot, New, Popular back...any chance?
ariannah posted Fri, 20 January 2006 at 2:04 PM
And the date a product was uploaded? Please? I do see what's been done so far, but would love to see the product upload dates and the customer reviews return. As a potential buyer, these features were very useful to me.
Thanks in advance for listening.
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cindyx posted Fri, 20 January 2006 at 7:05 PM
Is it possible to include the DATE that a product was UPLOADED? I always liked that feature, so I could know whether an item is an older one or a new one. Not every 'readme' has that information. Thank you.
wheatpenny posted Fri, 20 January 2006 at 11:03 PM Site Admin
I too would like to see the upload date feature put back in.
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zulu9812 posted Sat, 21 January 2006 at 8:42 AM
I would like to see product reviews back
goldie posted Sat, 21 January 2006 at 11:23 AM
"Clearance/Warehoused products are now displaying the correct retail price" As far as I can tell, the clearance/warehouse products DO NOT display their correct retail prices...I recently purchased two items in the warehouse and neither of them now show the same price I paid for them...in fact in my previous purchases list, the price I actually paid for each of these items is listed incorrectly...
Wonderland posted Sun, 22 January 2006 at 6:14 AM
Everything seems fine on the gallery pages, but the marketplace is all screwed up. The spacing is terrible (in Safari) and the whole layout and the fonts look terrible and very amateurish for an art site! The product descriptions are harder to read and seem very disorganized with a confusing layout. On the thumbnails pages, if the title of the product is long, it's all on one line causing a huge gap between thumbnails making them unevenly spaced. I miss the product reviews, don't like the menu bar squished on the right and difficult to read, the separate wishlist and all the other issues everyone else mentions. Hoping everything gets back to normal soon and the site will eventually look and function as well as it did before, otherwise it will be too much of a pain to shop on this site....
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Silke posted Sun, 22 January 2006 at 6:20 AM
Well... I tried to search for Mil Dragon 2 products today. Ferget it. For starters, I cannot narrow down my search. This gives me a list of every single item with "Dragon" in it. So now I get to look at product by product (200 or so pages) to see if it is for Mil Dragon 2 or not... I don't think so. Sorry you merchants who sell Mil Dragon 2 stuff... I couldn't be bothered to go and check though all that stuff. I'll just go without. There has to be an advanced search that uses booleans, so I can use AND at least.
Silke
nghayward posted Sun, 22 January 2006 at 10:17 AM
But you can noarrow down searches...
in the example above you can search for Mil dragon by using "+mil +dragon". This will narrow down the search to find mil dragon entries (10 products were listed though 2 were irrelevant)
using "+mil* +dragon" will extend the search to include Mill or Millenium as well (39 products were listed though a larger proportion irrelevant)
The problem with a serach not reporting all products for Miki (and probably others) now seems to have been fixed.
Thanks those responsible.
Nigel
Message edited on: 01/22/2006 10:18
Lyne posted Sun, 22 January 2006 at 4:31 PM
I clicked on a banner today, with interest in some clothing for Aiko...there were NO other images, but the main one and I too HATE the small font, and layout...I was not really sure if the clothing was just for Aiko, or V3 too.... I put the item in my wish list but I do NOT feel like shopping here.... the old layout was soooo user friendly!! I READ the reviews to help decide... I see no reason the LAYOUT cannot be the same? The links to PURCHASE are the critical part (I know, I have a store)... I also took another look at shopping in general...I am sorry I am totally over whelmed by all the thumbs for things I care nothing about... I just look and want to run away...! I noted that to even find the CATEGORIES I had to click on the word POSER- and it took a long time - then all the poser word/links for figures, and other sections were listed...but again...it's just not visually easy to use... In a VISUAL medium, it is critical to display the products well....if I wanted to shop at the drug store, clothing store (real human) or toy store, I would expect rows and rows of thumbs like this... BUT even those stores have a LOT OF DESCRIPTION and information, and larger views to click on... But again, ours is a GRAPHICS environment so the display is paramount! That was a major decision when I built my store (I am the web builder)- NOT to go with the forced layout of the merchant software. I am sorry, I can see myself shopping here MUCH LESS, definitely no spontaneous purchases...only if I see something used in some art, trust the opinion of the artist, and THEN I may purchase just that one item.
Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!
Silke posted Sun, 22 January 2006 at 6:18 PM
Thing is, you might be able to narrow down the searches - but it doesn't SAY that anywhere. I've never in my entire life on the web used + in a search. Ever. First time I hear this is seeing the post above - and I've come here for years. I use AND and OR all the time tho. Going away from what is the norm - the booleans above - is not userfriendly.
Silke
Ralf61 posted Mon, 23 January 2006 at 8:39 AM
Sorry - but I don't trust the search-function. Try to search for V3. You'll get NO results. I think there is something entirely wrong. So many products here in the MP, you need a powerfull search. And I really need the product reviews. This was a main difference to CP and DAZ where you can't find such thing . ITs so helpful to see, what others think about a product. The new layout is not a a big improvement, but not to bad for me. I would like to see more pics from a product. I'm not sure tht 3 as it has been in the past are enogh ...
Ralf61 posted Mon, 23 January 2006 at 11:05 AM
In addition: What happened to the 'favorite merchant' function. I don't see it anymore ...
Wonderland posted Mon, 23 January 2006 at 12:45 PM
Also, if you are looking at a particular merchant's products, there is no link on top to go back to the marketplace, you have to keep clicking the arrow to go back. And there is no indication what software the product is for under the thumbnail--Poser? Vue? Bryce? It doesn't say....
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Lyne posted Mon, 23 January 2006 at 4:04 PM
ARGGH.. I wanted to contact a merchant... so clicked the product link under my own image..and went to his store... but now the CONTACT the merchant is gone... great.. I will have to do a search here in the other part of the world to find his page and then be able to send him a message. Blah! I also was able to contact another merchant by finding his e mail and asked for clairification on his product page...all his type (and the fact that the product IS for P6 was gone) was mushed together.. what a royal mess!! I keep putting things in my wish list...but I swear I will NOT spend until this mess is made clear... :((
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Wonderland posted Tue, 24 January 2006 at 1:43 PM
And this is really bad for merchants.... I clicked on a banner ad and got: Not Found The requested URL /softgood.ez was not found on this server. Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server at market.renderosity.com Port 80 If the banner ads don't work, that really must affect sales--so hopefully things will be fixed soon....
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StaceyG posted Tue, 24 January 2006 at 1:47 PM
Hi Wonderland, Not sure which banner ad that was but it must have been a problem with that particuliar banner ad as they are working and when clicked on will take you to the product or store as they did before. If you see that one again or remember what product or merchant it was, can you please IM me with that information so I can look into it? Thanks Stac
nruddock posted Tue, 24 January 2006 at 1:59 PM
Any plans to change the format of these ?
The new ones are kind of information free.
Having the item name in the subject, and a link to the item were useful aspects and it would be good to see them return.
StaceyG posted Tue, 24 January 2006 at 2:18 PM
Thanks, adding that to my list as well as all the other suggestions/feedback here. We really appreciate it everyone! Watch the front page as we are going to launch an article that will keep you updated on the Marketplace fixes, changes, enhancements, etc. Stac
Acadia posted Wed, 25 January 2006 at 6:11 PM
Karen sent me here.... The old MP format had an option to delete the entire wishlist in one fell swoop. Currently you can only delete one item at a time, which is a PITA! I would like to see the feature of being able to delete multiple items returned. Ideally it would be better if you could put a checkmark next to items you want to delete instead of having to delete the whole thing, but I'll settle for what was... a delete all if I have to choose. Also, I don't like my list sorted by item name. I'd like to be able to sort by "Merchant" as well. This way if I'm going through my wishlist I'm not having to go up and down the list multiple times to see if I have something from their store in my list.
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others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Klutz posted Thu, 26 January 2006 at 1:32 AM
Yes as I asked earlier in this thread over a week back: ' OK how about these for further refinements of the wishlist?: As I requested earlier the return of expiry dates of sales so you don't have to keep clicking each sale item to check it. Also.. How about having it sortable by column... Item Vendor Price Status That would make it even more user friendly. ' Also totals at the base of the price column? TIA Klutz
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ClintH posted Thu, 26 January 2006 at 9:28 AM
Hi Klutz, These features are being evaluated for inclusion in the new system. Clint
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Klutz posted Thu, 26 January 2006 at 12:51 PM
OKie Dokie. Thanks, Clint Nice to know someone is paying attention! I do appreciate there are a lot of suggestions being made and considered. Klutz :0)
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Ralf61 posted Thu, 26 January 2006 at 4:25 PM
The sample shot i attach is from Hyperreal M3. I checked with IE6, Opera and Firefox - the result is always bad ...
Acadia posted Fri, 27 January 2006 at 4:27 PM
Currently there is no way to send a message to a merchant unless you go to a whole new part of the site (Messaging) and paste their name in. Can a link to their message/email area be put back in their main store at least?
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ClintH posted Fri, 27 January 2006 at 4:30 PM
Hi Acadia, Coming soon. ;) Clint
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sazzyazzca posted Wed, 01 February 2006 at 8:18 AM
I would really like to see the little icons in the wishlist be different colours, perhaps red for warehouse items and yellow for those on sale. It would make it much easier to find things quickly for those of us with big wishlists.
Seren posted Wed, 01 February 2006 at 8:30 AM
I know sale items have been discussed somewhere. But I can't find it. Since the date of a sale item disappeared from the actual product page, or even a mention that it is on sale as far as I can see! I can't find anywhere to assess when the sale on an item ends. Perhaps my brain's asleep today but I've gone round and round and can't find a way to get that information. I see an item on my wishlist is on sale then I can't get any further no matter what I do.
nruddock posted Mon, 06 February 2006 at 2:12 PM
Nice to see you got product links back into the emails.
Hope the item name will return to the title soon.
sazzyazzca posted Tue, 07 February 2006 at 11:44 PM
I am hugely missing not being able to go to a vendor's artist page from their store. That was a feature I used ALL the time.
LilOne posted Fri, 10 February 2006 at 6:32 PM
Where did all the search functions go - price and all the other things? :( It is so much dumber now, nearly useless, what little search function is left in the marketplace.
And what has happened with the cart/wishlist page? I want the old style, with the cart, private and public wishlist on the same page, divided. :(
Will these things come back, or at least offered as an option? I find it very awkward and un-userfriendly as it is now.
dialyn posted Tue, 14 February 2006 at 5:25 PM
I'm late but I am going to add my vote to improve the "updated" items. It's always been hard to figure out when an item was updated; now I can't even figure out which items have beeen updated since I bought them. Merchants don't always notify us (and sometimes, I admit, I don't have the opportunity in the moment to update when I get an message). It would be nice to know when I purchased the item, and when it was updated, and what items have been updated in some easy to find place. I know that's been covered. I'm just reaffirming the need. Thanks!
electronicpakrat posted Thu, 23 February 2006 at 7:25 AM
At present, if I log into the forums first I cannot view my wishlist, cart, etc. Instead of asking me to login again (that would at least have been nice), it just says my wishlist is blank (contains no items) which was quite misleading initially. I know this is likely because the forum side is still not properly sync'd with the marketplace side yet. I've been waiting ~ 2 weeks on bringing this to your attention to see if it was just an oversight. Do you intend to correct this or is this the way it will be? Any ETA ?
ClintH posted Thu, 23 February 2006 at 7:30 AM
You have to login to the MarketPlace server as well. Once logged into the MarketPlace you can seletc My Wishlist from the sidebar to view your wishlist. The community and MarketPlace are running on seperate systems. Clint
Clint Hawkins
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... All I know is I don't wana stop!
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electronicpakrat posted Thu, 23 February 2006 at 8:21 AM
Thank you for your reply.
However, your response seems to echo all of what I had originally stated I already knew. Perhaps you read my message too fast which is easy to do when you have so many to read / respond to.
Anyway, what I was trying to get across was...
When will these separate systems be unified again?
Is that even a goal for this site ?
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Seren posted Thu, 23 February 2006 at 8:43 AM
Quoting electronicpakrat
At present, if I log into the forums first I cannot view my wishlist, cart, etc. Instead of asking me to login again (that would at least have been nice), it just says my wishlist is blank (contains no items) which was quite misleading initially.<<
Hi
I'm not on Renderosity staff or anything but perhaps a temporary help to you would be to export the 2 Renderosity cookies then you wouldn't need to keep logging in again.
It sounds like you clear your browser cache each day, this means you must log in again.
Once your cache is cleared I'd visit the forums straight away and then the marketplace and login for each once more.
Don't visit any other sites.
When you've done this In IE - File | Import and Export, run the wizard and export cookies.
Just run the same wizard again to import the cookie file next time you want to visit then you won't have to log in again.
This might help anyway.
ClintH posted Thu, 23 February 2006 at 8:58 AM
We will be migrating the community over the next several months. Clint
Clint Hawkins
MarketPlace Manager/Copyright Agent
All my life I've been over the top ... I don't know what I'm doing
... All I know is I don't wana stop!
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electronicpakrat posted Thu, 23 February 2006 at 9:23 AM
Thanks all.