This is not a tutorial thread, sorry. I have formed the conclusion that Poser 6SR2 gets very confused when I try using both Walk Designer AND Cloth Room for a figure and its Dynamic Cloth. Sometimes, I get lucky and the cloth sticks to the figure like it was meant to. Other times, the dynamic cloth (DC) falls down to the ankles. I am using a commercial DC for my figure, and I am certain there is nothing wrong with the product; it must be Poser. I have three pictures showing the variation in results which I get when I use Cloth Room X Walk designer.

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And here are the successful results. I would say I get 1 successful result in 30 attempts at using the Cloth Room and Walk Designer combination. A real waste of time and energy.

Eternal Hobbyist

 

And here is another very rare successful result I have only managed to get a successfully-fitted DC once AND got it to animate with a walking figure --- just once in three days of trying ! I have not yet repeated this amazing feat, try as I might ! GRRRRR !!!

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I have been using DC for two weeks now in an animation I am doing, and I have had no problems. The material always stays on. Are you using the constrained groups correctly? For a quick test, download one of the nightgown DC models in freestuff here, there is a series of 10 I think, and try one of them. I have used three of them and they worked perfectly.

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With things like skirts, the problem come into play in animations when there are either no constrained vertexes, or no hard decorations. you see, what happens is, poser calculates if the friction on the cloth is enough to stretch the cloth, and if enough of the cloth is touching, it will stretch the cloth instead of moving it, eventually the top will be stretched enough to slip over the hips, and fall off. what you need to do, is either set the top ring of vertexes as constrained (which means they will not move at all) or set them as hard decoration (they will move, but will not stretch, bend or sheer)

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Woo-oot ! Thanks to everybody's helpfulness in this thread and in my earlier thread on same topic, it is working !

My walk cycle was 30 frames. The pre-draped commercial DC I was using seemed to require minimum 30 frames to simulate.

I made Frame 1 the zero pose, and Frame 30 the beginning of the 1-cycle walk-in-place for Koji CR2.

I simulated the cloth from Frame 1 to Frame 60.

The DC will fall correctly and move correctly with my figure walking in the animation.

Here are my results, if you are interested. It is in a 741kb SWF file.

http://www.forbidden-lovers.net/kosher/success2.swf

And here is my simple-minded post-production "technique" for this SWF, in case you want to know as well:

1. Generated an uncompressed AVI of the animation from Poser6.
2. Opened the AVI in IrfanView and exported all images as BMP.
3. Imported all images into Flash (I am using an older version, Flash Macromedia 6)
4. Oddly the upper halves of the images are transparent inside Flash. (I do not know how or why, but it rocks for me !)
5. Make SWF movie.

Finally:
PLEASE DO NOT NAVIGATE THE REST OF MY WEBSITE WHERE I HAVE HOSTED THIS SWF FILE. IT IS NOT 'KOSHER' FOR SOME OF YOU HERE ! I MEAN IT, AND I AM SERIOUS ! THANK YOU.

Eternal Hobbyist

 

Shouldn't commerical dynamic clothing come with constrained groups, soft groups, and hard groups already made? bB

"what you need to do, is either set the top ring of vertexes as constrained (which means they will not move at all)" Errm - not quite. What constrained does is to "pin" each vertex to whatever underlying object it is set to collide with. As the collision object moves, so does the constrained vertex, and that includes any morphs (inflating or deflating) of the underlying figure. Can be very useful or a PITA, depending on circumstances:-) Rigid Decorated does much the same thing for elements of the cloth which are intended to move with the cloth (the usual example is buttons). Buttons are often modelled separately from the cloth itself, so would fall away unless held in place in some way. So Rigid Decorated tells a group of vertices to behave as the underlying cloth element does, maintaining the same shape and distance from the cloth as it moves. Hope that helps.. :-) Cheers, Diolma

I just tried the Constrained Group thingie on the upper part of the DC I was using. It holds the whole cloth in place on the Apollo Maximus figure. Otherwise, it simply slips off, no matter what I try. In the case of the Koji figure, I took the advice of the cloth creator and reduced the X scale of the cloth to 90% and it did not slip off the Koji figure during simulation. This trick does ot work with the AM figure for this cloth.

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