once again i'm on the beg for help. i managed to get a face into poser via wavefront. took it into the set up room and tried to add some bones in order to make it a figure with moving eyes and bending neck. did okay for a while then got lost with the auto group display. can anyone lead me to a decent ste up room tut please. as always any help will be appreciated. i used the bones from mikis head btw. not sure how to make my own yet. billy :)