Ok i really like the modling part .. i despise grouping and I must admit now that my mad uvmapping skillz are like a 2 month old playing xbox .. I can't uv map the hauberk, the coif, or the shoulder pads with out getting nasty stretching and wierd anomolies ... Then again i'm just doing basic planar mapping so i can show you my problems .. but trying to map this any other way I can think of inclusing splitting off the arms and such just aren't working. I've been stuck at uv mapping for over a week now and to be honest i'm making no progress at all..