Zhann opened this issue on Mar 06, 2006 · 28 posts
Zhann posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 7:13 PM
I'm going to bend the CR rules a bit because I think this is educational and informative, and post an image from the article..(Photographer; Steve Nesius)... The exhibit I think is in now in Houston....the figure above is a REAL human cadaver!
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erosiaart posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 7:20 PM
nitemares! but really good.. look at the way the muscles flow in direction to the way it's running..and the wind. beautifully done... do have a curious question.. won't cadavers stink???
waldomac posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 7:38 PM
Eeew. :) Now that IS cool. I'm trying to basically glaze over the fact that it's a dead guy, but it is very informational and with his consent, I'm sure. :) Very cool. Thanks for sharing it.
TheBryster posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 7:38 PM Forum Moderator
While fascinating, I think this is if not sick, then certainly sad. This was once a living human being, how sad that he? ended up like this?
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ysvry posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 8:08 PM
these were also in an exhibition in germany, there was some contoversy that some of the bodies were of chinese inmates that didnt sign any prove of consent.
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AgentSmith posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 8:48 PM
Yup, I caught it here in Los Angeles. Extremely fascinating. Of the exhibition here, the people had donated their bodies to science. If I were to donate my (whole) body to science, I'd rather it end up like this, rather than just disected at a medical school. "won't cadavers stink?" - Nope, they have been preserved in such a way as there is no smell. Well, nothing I caught anyway. AgentSmith
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Ang25 posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 8:48 PM
Someone I work with was saying there is an exhibit in Manhattan called 'Bodies' and she wanted to go see it. While I might be able to stomach such an exhibit, I highly doubt that I could enjoy it the way I do going to a more traditional art exhibit.
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erosiaart posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 9:08 PM
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/photogalleries/cadavers_exhibition_museum/index.html http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0829_050829_human_bodies.html beleive more than 100 pple want to donate their bodies after they die for this... controversy..for those who love one.. most of the bodies who were from china.. poor people. think..right to privacy, no consent, capitalism, communism..believe entrance for the exhib was $25 per head, etc. draws a line somewhere... like in journalism.. the right to inform, or to respect privacy. here.. has art crossed it's barrier? does art have a barrier..in the true sense.. ? or art..is art..? what's the difference between art and sensationalism? the list goes on and on..... the the political bits of art.. what can be shown, what cannot..so then is art not art here.. me think me will stick to digital art.. nude models don't bother me about privacy, etc.
Zhann posted Mon, 06 March 2006 at 11:32 PM
They were criminals, so no consent needed in China, although there was some controversy over how the bodies were obtained...... The artist who developed the preservation technique was German, Gunther von Hagens, they did an article on him in the March 2004 issue.... And, if I were to die, I'd have Todd donate my body, I would certainly want to live on in an exhibit such as this, yup, definitely.
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Sans2012 posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 1:09 AM
Got to love the old plastination technique; wish it was on show down here:(
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Gog posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 3:43 AM
Von Hagen did a series of live autopsy on UK TV it was fascinating and revolting at the same time. Incredible stuff.
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Svaelt posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 6:10 AM
I would not mind if some artist used my body in his or her art, when I'm dead.
Gog posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 7:04 AM
I've looked in the mirror if they used my body it wouldn't be art!
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marcfx posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 7:17 AM
Well, its one way for me to stand up straight!!......might give it a go :)
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erosiaart posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 9:10 AM
from my cousin... "I went for this exhibition in toronto....it was amazing and fascinating.. they had consent forms kept there for people who wanted to donate their bodies. well, i guess in china it may be a different story. the germans apparently have set up a place in china where the bodies are sent for such purposes."
marcfx posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 10:09 AM
Damn, cant afford a trip to China......bang goes that idea! LOL
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artbyphil posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 10:53 AM
I've got the programme/exhibition book form when he exhibted in London. Some pretty amazing stuff if a bit disconcerting at times.
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Rochr posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 2:33 PM
Wasnt this the same exhibition where they had a corpse sliced up in very thin pieces placed in a long row? Think i saw something about it on Discovery Channel. Not sure i would call it art though, but thats just me i guess. :)
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marcfx posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 3:55 PM
@Rochr I think your right and had cows sliced open so you can walk between them.....really fasinating but yukkkkkk :O
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jfike posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 5:05 PM
That looks like my work when I try to fit clothing on Poser models!
RodsArt posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 6:10 PM
Marc: there was a gruesome bit of that with a horse in the Movie "The Cell".
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I think they could fix that by turning off inverse kinematics. and dynamic cloth muscles might work too... (sorry, too much Poser, not enough sleep)
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Quest posted Wed, 08 March 2006 at 1:16 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, a prelude to our destination. Being a Med student from way back when, this stuff awesome, than you for the specifics Zhann, thank you but people must knowthere is more.
Zhann posted Wed, 08 March 2006 at 1:30 AM
As for the cows and the horses sliced up, that was also used in the movie the "Cell", where this woman doctor was treating the violently insane and you saw the slices when you walked through this one guys psyche...weird...
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Rayraz posted Wed, 08 March 2006 at 3:16 AM
ew lol but fascinating...
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marcfx posted Wed, 08 March 2006 at 11:43 AM
The Cell, now thats a real weird film.......i got lost in that one!
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