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Subject: OT - Weirdest Fetish?

momodot opened this issue on Mar 26, 2006 · 114 posts


momodot posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 12:15 PM

Poserdom features some weird fetishs. There seem to be a not insignificant number of people using Poser to express/satisfy some kink. Most notably bazaar large and gravity defying breasts.

What is the weirdest fetish you have ever encountered.?
Be tasteful and sensitive in relating it please!


Why do I think of this?

This morning...

Me: She was vomiting like a fire hose. Man, I hate cleaning up a stranger's vomit!

10 year old youth: There must be people into that.

Me: I suppose you are right. Intellectually it seems that it would have be the case... but it is sure hard to imagine.

10 year old youth: But you have to admit, given the number of people there are there must be bunch who would be into that...


Strangest Fetish I Have Encountered on the Net:

A series of sites revolving the appreciation and erotic appeal of women sneezing. This was absolutely not a spoof. It seem to be a sect associated with a fetish for the female nose in general which has the great opera singer Maria Calas as its totem cult image. This seemed more unusual to me than the Plushie materials I encountered when first getting into doll making.

I once saw a really weird Poser site, it was facinating, it involved the fantasy that all men in the world had been affected by some horrible disease which shrunk them down to a very small size... it featured R-rated photo images of languid normal sized women being lavished with attention by tiny little Poser 1 Nude Men. It really was interesting. Was that your site? Are there others as unique as that?

Well, know of any strange ones?

Game rules:

  1. Must be to the best of your knowledge a real kink and not a spoof.

  2. It must be strange and amusing, not offensive, vulgar, obscene, or illegal. It must be amusing but not scary, violent, or disturbing.

  3. You must assiduously avoid offensive language, vulgar language, and the discussion of anything truly disturbing. I am serious!!! Please post responsibly.



lemur01 posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 12:29 PM

One helluva tenuous poser link but what the hell lol. Jack


momodot posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 12:39 PM

Hey, Poser is a tool for Fantasy! There is some weird stuff in the realm of Poser! I never new how strange the libido could be until I got into Poser after nearly seven years of using the Internet strictly for academic work. Remember Lynx? I remember when Mosaic was just a rumor!!!



TrekkieGrrrl posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 3:29 PM

The thing is.. Most fetish links are also what some people will call obscene or offensive. I once came across a site with adult Poser figures treated as babies. You know the sort of putting adults in diapers and such. There's also sites dedicated to amputees, some apparently think people look more sexy without their limbs. I think if there's a kink out there, someone, somewhere has recreated stuff for it in Poser, which is cool with me. I'd rather have people slice up Poser characters than real people. And I don't necessarily think that someone who does that kind of pictures also need to go out and do it in real life. I did THINGS to my Barbie dolls as a kid that would keep a shrink occupied full time >:o)

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spedler posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 3:35 PM

About three years ago in a bookshop I saw a book called 'Encyclopedia of unusual sex practices*'. This was so fascinating I bought a copy, and another look through it now shows enough to keep this thread going for several months.

On page 6, I find 'algamatophilia.' This, as you all know, is the term for statue fetish. According to this book, "In 1877 a gardener fell in love with a statue of the Venus of Milo and was discovered attempting coitus with it.". The section on this topic also has some rather more, er, exotic examples of this fetish. To keep this just a little on topic, a Poser render of such a thing would not be difficult - although I don't think we'll see it on Rendo...

This book appears to be an entirely serious work and I've no reason to doubt the many (and I do mean many) fetishes and bizarre practices described in it.

*Encyclopedia of unusual sex practices, by Brenda Love, Abacus, London, 1992, ISBN 0-349-10676-2.

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ockham posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 3:37 PM

Ditto Ernyoka.... there's nothing quite as nasty as SOMEONE ELSE's sexual kink, especially if it's uncomfortably close to MY sexual kink! (Freud called it the 'narcissism of small differences.')

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Maxfield posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 3:43 PM

Just remember - no matter how kinky you get, you'll never be as kinky as the people listening in through the bedroom wall...

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Miss Nancy posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 3:56 PM

violence against women, e.g. torture, bondage, murder etc., is a common fetish at poser-related porno sites (no links, sorry). I reckon that international, federal and local law enforcement agencies regularly troll those sites, in the same way that they monitor pedophile groups on yahoo and IRC.



momodot posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 4:11 PM

Here on Rosity there is enough violent material such as to which you refer to severly freak me out and make me feel bad. I used to complain to Admin about the violent thumbnails in Freestuff. Re. the thread... NO LINKS PLEASE. I was hoping to hear of amusing things like the sneeze fetish. I wonder if there is a factor of algamatophilia to Poser work as a whole??



lesbentley posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 4:21 PM

A friend once told me of a fetish that involved watching a woman in very high heels squashing cockroaches. The idea makse me feel kind of nauseous, but then I once did a render of a woman with spiders crawling all over her, which I found quite erotic. Re post #5: On the now defunct Thralldom site there was an excellent Poser render of a woman having coitus with a statue!


AntoniaTiger posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 4:29 PM

I have looked over certain other sites from time to time, and NVIATWAS must surely count as a fetish. What gets me is that so many of these things have the default Vicky face. How many people just download the free base version? A lot of the violence against women makes me uncomfortable. Claws out, rip the guy's face off, uncomfortable. It doesn't help that one well-known Poser-porn site, not a million characters from here, puts SF, fantasy, and horror in the same category.


slinger posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 4:33 PM

The only weird fetish is someone else's ;)

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pakled posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 7:15 PM

try Renderotica, Literotica, ASSTR stories, etc., in google. Any time I feel I'm too weird, I just go by there and feel much more normal (can't afford Star Trek conventions, but they made me feel both normal and thin..;)
Some of the stranger kinks (descriptions only)
Tentacles
Ear Wax
shoes
Kwakiatul (I don't even know what that refers to..;)
Inflation (either parts of folks, or whole hog
Male Pregnancy
various bodily fluids ...'nuff said
And other things too scary to mention..;)

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momodot posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 7:51 PM

can't afford Star Trek conventions, but they made me feel both normal and thin.. Wheeeee! Thanks! Male pregnancy? I think my wife had that fantasy about me around 8.5 months into her first pregnancy.



Foxseelady posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 9:09 PM

I came across a site once, latex and bondage, not the harsh beat em kind of bondage though, can't really explain it. I absolutley loved it. I loved the work that is lol The colors of the latex and the outfits were awesome, brilliant and very very interesting!! The oddest fetish (to me) was the one for lactating breasts.


ghelmer posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 12:57 AM

Sadly I do humbly and almost but not quite ashamedly admit to the first mentioned large breasticles fetish so prevalent here in Poser-dom. Sigh... Meh... I'm a man and a hetero one at that from a small town originally so I guess it couldn't be helped!

Now on to the topic at hand... A co-worker was sending links to all his fave sites and sadly I was included in the distribution list... Not a priority to be privy to the inner workings of 99.9% of my co-workers!!

But on this list and the only link I clicked because it looked so preposterously retarded (fetish or otherwise) wise was a site dedicated to "Sick Girls"... I don't mean "Dude.... thats so sick!!" when caught digging for gold in the ol' schnozzerooni! (that's picking ones nose) BUT "Sick" as in "Achoo!" There were pics and clips of college (I assume) girls looking all pathetic and sick and sneezing and hacking and blowing their noses and examaning then showing the camera the tissues!! Gross! It also looked pretty fake cus the one freebie video clip I looked at had a poor cold suffering girl blow her nose into a tissue that had to first contain about half a bottle of hand moisturizer or lotion that ended up all over face I assume to simulate mucous etc. It was silly & gross and in the end JUST PLAIN STUPID! It boggles my mind that folks will pay good money to register the domain name and then pay for the web-hosting and then if needed pay to produce content for such things!!! Well that's just me!

My two cents are really spent now!

Gerard

p.s. to Foxseelady... though I'm somewhat enthralled, enamored and I guess pretty much obsessed with large breasts the whole lactating thing is pretty pervy and disturbing to me!! Come on!! That's motherhood!! So I agree whole heartedly with ya on that one!!!

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MartinW posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 3:19 AM

Okay, here's one try googling 'urtication' not sure if it's funny or not, but I laughed when I read it in disbelief that anyone could be into something so bizzare that could certainly be represented in Poser with literally eye-watering results... (BTW 'violence' tag in case anyone is hyper-cautious though I don't necessarily think this kink is violent in the most usual form used here - there's more violence in some of the gallery images than urtication - just being cautious for those who are cautious)


Lyrra posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 5:11 AM

theres one poser using artist that does excellent fantasy work ..but has an odd prediliction for petrifaction ..turning women into statues and freely admits it as a fetish. Poser sure helps work out some of the weirder ones safely I'd say lol Now I have a cough thing for semi-nudes in historical clothing ... not a common market these days, alas. I think its a leftover from too much daydreaming in Art History class.... Then theres the thousands of female artists putting beautiful (anime) men together .... and superhero fetishists ... I even ran into a bridal fetishist once. Its amazing what humans find erotic



rreynolds posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 9:20 AM

I can't remember the exact quote, but there was a line, by SGT Dietrich on "Barney Miller", after they caught a shoe fetish thief, that I liked. One of the cops questioned how anybody could develop a shoe fetish and Dietrich said, "There isn't an object out there that somebody doesn't have a sexual lust for."


puddykat posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 9:21 AM

Some guy in the US makes custom full lycra body suits including full head. Saw a site from Japan where women wear weird plastic masks. Saw something called living doll where women where flesh colored body suits including hands feet and head and then ordinary street clothes and wigs over that... I think it is an attempt to get the look of a clothing mannikan. Some ladies are pretty indulgent I guess.


Redfern posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 11:06 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1002851&Start=1&Artist=Redfern&ByArtist=Yes

Interest in anthropomorphic characters, "furries", has gained public notoriety since journalists have recently focused upon the more extreme, fringe aficionados. Like any interest, it can run the gamut, ranging from mild curiosity with "funny talking animals" to performing actions that could be classified as "cruelty to animals" (to put it delicately). Fortunately, most fans know where to draw the line. Poser, and certainly the "higher end" digital art programs, can now allow someone to visualize a level of "believability" in such mythical beings not obtainable a mere decade ago. How far to carry the fantasy is, of course, left to the discretion (or indiscretion) of the individual. Linked is a relatively mild example in my gallery. I have clicked the "nudity" alert" in case certain potential viewers are uncomfortable with characters sporting little more than fur. Sincerely, Bill

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Jimdoria posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 11:35 AM

Two that I found particularly weird, in my own weird way: Smoking fetish. This is an obsession with watching people who are just smoking cigarettes. What seems weird to me is that this is kind of like fetisihizing a fairly normal behavior. (Is there a "washing dishes" fetish? Probably.) One theory is that since smoking has become something of a social taboo, there is now a fetish about it. Okaaayyyyy.... Balloon fetish. Yup. Big, round, brightly colored balloons. Sometimes they pop. I guess it's the sense of anticipation... Then of course there's the ULTIMATELY DEVIANT FETISH. ;-)


kathym posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 12:41 PM

The strangest fetish i've seen is the use of Poser to make porn ... I mean c'mon if 3D models doing it is what launches your rocket ... you've got issues ... seek professional help.

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SeanMartin posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 12:47 PM

Balloon fetish. Yup. Big, round, brightly colored balloons. Sometimes they pop I've heard of this one too. Darned if I can figure this one out, but apparently it involves a whole room of them, sort of a balloon orgy, if you will.

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momodot posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 2:50 PM

urtication... I am NOT going to look that up. Do you think there is an erotic fetish for that terrible media sensation of the late twenteth century that was known as Urkle? I have heard of being afraid of balloons. There is a fetish about women dressed as clowns and another for cross-eyed women. There is something called "smudge" or something like that about women eating in a very messy way and that combined with the clown thing and you get something like Blue Girl Group: Women pouring bright primary color stuff on themselves. I have not seen this stuff in Poser though. Smoking fetish? That is a curious one. Badness? The inhale? Film Nor? Has this one shown up in Poser? There is something non-violent but with a violent sounding name: "slashing". It is a Japanese, mainly female, fetish of amateur writing and drawing of famous fictional male pairs eroticaly involved... Kirk/Spock or Pinguine-slash-Riddler for example. I have seen this in Poser.



dawnryder posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 4:04 PM

foxseelady? what's weird about lactating breasts? surely that's gotta be one of the most natural things around??? can't think of anything more beautiful than than baby and daddy sharing (while the baby is still a baby of course!!!) I've seen far worse things squirted in japanese poser sites and i'm pretty sure that milk tastes nicer than that stuff the funniest and least understandable one I've heard of (but haven't seen (yet) in poser) was from my friend, a working lady, who was paid to put a mac on - just a normal mac - take it off in a normal fashion and then the gentleman found pleasure by himself. What's so pleasurable about someone putting a mac on and taking it off??? I must be comppletely naive, because I dont see the point at all! maybe someone more enlightened can explain... he should have saved his money and gone to oxfam on a rainy day


momodot posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 5:44 PM

What is a Mac? Where I live it is a pimp, a procurer of prostitutes, more accurately, the "owner" of a stable of prostitutes. Where you live it is a rain coat?

surely that's gotta be one of the most natural things around??? can't think of anything more beautiful than than baby and daddy sharing

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In the culture I was raised in there is less erotic value to the female breasts than to the face, neck or hands. Definately an "A" culture not a "T" culture.



grahamjames posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 6:10 PM

My wifes sister decided to sell her wedding dress after she got divorced. She advertised it in the local newspaper and got about 20 calls from men who said they would buy it but only if she modelled it for them.


momodot posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 6:35 PM

Youza! Is it true that in Tokyo there are vending machines that dispense used women's underwear? There is a poser prop from Japan that consists of possible ornate chrome nipple caps and a jetting liquid milk prop! On some cop show I once saw a couple of minutes of the law enforcement was doing fur-ensics on a whole rack of furry cartoon outfits that had been worn at an intimate social gathering... a flight of fantasy? I have an associate who is a cultural historian, her web searches for matters of costume history etc. bring up sites for gay crew sock fetishists etc. on a regular basis. Has anyone seen anything interesting on any Poser sites that can describe tastefully? I am curious to know what whimsical fancy people express in thier own Poser universe. The basics are huge anti-gravity empowered breasts, women warriors with certain vulnerable parts left exposed by their armor, physical affection in low-gravity environments, handsome men with enormous muscle mass getting to know each other... a bunch of B&D and violent stuff that I absolutely don't want to know about. The furries. I wish I could find that tiny man site again... it had the power of obsession behind it. But I am also curious about the real world, non scary stuff. The furries was pretty interesting. I had a multiple amputee friend who showed me the weird "devotee" stuff on the web, she was cool about it but I could never decide if it was creepy or not. Still, this serious stuff is a bit scary. It is the stuff like balloons and galoshes that are interesting... apparently the galoshes thing is real too. You know? I am thinking this was a bad thread to start :) Just that the thing about cleaning up the vomit really got me. Kids today!



Lyrra posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 7:01 PM

momodot "slash" fanfiction actually started with the infamous Kirk/Spock pairing in the US, spread by BBS's before the Internet is what it is now. Its called slash for the / in the pairing listing. These days there is a MASSIVE amount of slash fanfiction on the internet, as well as slash art (some made in poser) It crosses over with yaoi fiction, anime based fiction of the same sort and I know nothing of that genres history. If you're feeling brave search for the "Foresmutters project" which has preserved some of the earliest known peices of slash fiction. Slash fiction generally pairs male characters from movies, tv shows or books together. There is also femslash of female characters and the much disparaged gen and het genres ith normal heterosexual sex or gasp non at all! There are also some original slash/yaoi fiction stories out there (and I'm talking book length things here). Depending on the original genre of the characters the fiction itself runs the range from disturbing hardcore bloodplay BDSM (common with vampires) to disgustingly sweet 'true love' romances and various fetishes are covered depending on the authors. And lest you all start wondering .... I worked as a slush pile reader in NYC ...the slush pile is the unsolicited manuscripts that a publisher gets. I ran across one of these and after a moment of surprise went and asked the editor about it. So of course I then went and rummaged around the internet to see what else was out there ... wow. Lyrra



Redfern posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 7:22 PM

The cop show you saw was probably an episode of CSI. The plot involved a person wearing a raccoon mascot styled suit who had traces of poison, had been shot and ultimately run over by a freight truck. Yet, it wasn't murder. Except for the non-lethal poisoning, the other two incidents were circumstantial and accidental. Yes, there exist fans who enjoy, ahem, "intimate" encounters while wearing mascot styled costumes. What is their percentile in "furry" fandom? I don't know (and showing my biases, hopefully few in number). But they are the ones that garner the attention of the media, wanted or not. Most fans stick to tamer venues such as "pin-up" styled art. Many fans simply enjoy anthropomorphic themed fiction with no "arousing" material whatsoever. As I said, it runs the gamut. Sincerely, Bill P.S. As for slash-fic, Kirk/Spock stories were being written during the days of memeographed fanzines in the early 70s. Slash-fic is just the current "buzz" word for a theme that has been around quite some time.

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pakled posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 8:03 PM

If you want to see examples of really bad slash (and other things..;) go to 'the Godawful Star Trek Fanfic' site (I think that's the name, but throw in enough key words, and Google will find it..;)It's more fun for the scathing reviews than the actual fanfic..;)
I don't really go for the slash stuff, but sometimes there's almost-good stories out there about other subject (pakled's rule; the more chapters a fanfic story has, the more likely it's some sort of specific kink..;), depending on whatever you might be interested in..;)
It's bad enough being a macromasophile..;) (a common disorder, but a cure has yet to be found..please give generously..;)

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momodot posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 8:14 PM

"traces of poison, had been shot and ultimately run over by a freight truck. Yet, it wasn't murder" ... and died? What a wimp, Rasputine got served that and said "Thank you Sir, may I have another!" Thanks for the info on slash/fic :)



Redfern posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 8:47 PM

I didn't see the segment myself, but here's what I was told. The victim attends a "furry" convention and he's waering the full ensemble, headpiece and fursuit. His "lover" in a jealous spat slips him a "micky" to make him nauseous (hence the non-lethal poisoning). He leaves the con feeling sick (still in costume) and somehow winds up upon a farm (I don't know how.). Since it's dark, the land owner sees what he thinks is a coyote (because the fursuiter is on hands and knees throwing up) and shoots the suspected vermin. Wounded, the cursed fellow staggers onto the road where he is finally hit by an oncoming truck. As described it comes across as a morbid comedy of errors, almost Wile E. Coyote in its escalation. Sincerely, Bill

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Acadia posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 9:45 PM

The word "Fetish" has several definitions, including one of a sexual nature. If that's the definition being used for this thread, then I'd have to say that all such fetishes are extremely wierd. As for the CSI episode of the Furry Convention, that was titled "Fur and Loathing", and was pretty hysterical to see. The victim was dressed as a giant racoon.

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Lyrra posted Tue, 28 March 2006 at 12:34 AM

the CSI furry episode was based on an actual case ..poor guy..and fairly infamous in furry fandom.. since it brought a lot of attention to one aspect of the fandom (not all furries do the fursuit thing ... just as not all het men like huge boobs) There was some other tv show with a chap dating a girl and her finally confessing she like to have sex dressed as a squirrel ... ended with him trying it himself ... so at least a positive light there :) (and she was an adorable squirrel too) Frankly I think the fetish for overlarge breasts or huges penises is just as weird as the one for sexy catgirls ..but hey ... whatever rocks your socks grins



dawnryder posted Tue, 28 March 2006 at 6:21 AM

Momodot - yes you are right In England a mac (other than a computer) IS a raincoat both short for macintosh (never!!!!) I wasn't aware of your meaning - where are you from? I guess the song "return of the mac" makes a little more sense now... (duh) heavenlyde gustibus, non disputandum est (Cicero, I believe), which means, There is no arguing taste' (lit.Of taste, there is no argument') or "there's nowt so queer as folk" but it makes for a fascinating world Just to clarify, I dont see lactation as kinky, I see it as serene, pure and a beautiful form of bonding


momodot posted Tue, 28 March 2006 at 7:35 AM

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." --Hamlet (I, v, 166-167) "Mac daddy, daddy mac" --Prince/The Artist Formerly Known as Prince I am sorry to say... the US of A is from whence I come. I think these days it is the "A" that is emphasized. Mac is now meaning more just a "playa", a suave fellow with the juice. Pimping now means to maximize the bling. "On Mother's day I pimped out my Mom's old Mazda and now her ride looks total mac daddy. My mams is one sure playa, word. She be representing!" I thought you were referring to the all too common literary motif of grown men suckling, a thing I think I first encountered in a story by Guy de Maupassant, a man I believe reputed to be cursed with priapism.



dawnryder posted Tue, 28 March 2006 at 10:30 AM

bitty mama?


Phantast posted Wed, 29 March 2006 at 4:41 AM

I was reading in the newspaper the other day that Japanese schoolgirls are making some extra money by selling spit. The set-up is apparently that three girls gather in a room (in school uniform) and chat amongst themselves. The customer observes them through a two-way mirror, and picks the one he likes. She then dribbles into a bottle and the customer pays up and collects the bottle. Truly weird, but it sounds like easy money.


dphoadley posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 6:04 AM

@pakled Dear Pakled: I did a web search for Kwakiatul, and came up with the following definitions, not that it really enlightens us as to what the fetish is, but still interesting to know. Kwakiatul: Definitions: 1. member of Native N American people: a member of a Native North American people who live on Vancouver Island and on the adjacent coast of British Columbia 2. language of Kwakiutl people: the Wakashan language of the Kwakiutl people [Mid-19th century. < Kwakiutl Kwul] Kwakiutladj Now, the $10.00 question is: What exactly is it that they DO, that they have a FETISH named after them, and is it something that I could get my wife interested in? Respectfully yours, David P. Hoadley

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TrekkieGrrrl posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 7:12 AM

I guess I DO have a kink actually.I hadn't thought of it as a kink, but since the subject came up... I read slash. And writes slash. And renders slash. Lots and lots of it. Potterverse. I've read a little Star Trek slash, but... Nah, except for the stories involving Gul Dukat, they're not where my interest lie. Furthermore he's often paired with Kira, and... :scared: It's his daughter... and THEN it gets a little too.. weird. In the Potterverse there are some things that I personally don't care for either.. Twincest and Malfoycest are two of the major ones. And chanslash as a whole... ICK! But decent slash can be GOOD! And a lot of it is substatially better written than the original Potter books, too. :biggrin:

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dphoadley posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 7:49 AM

"Alan Rickman is a man who gets hotter as he ages. When it's his time to go, they won't have to cremate him. He will spontaneously combust!" I definately believe that Alan Rickman's portrayal of Snape is heads & shoulders above Rawlings' creation. He breathes life depth into what has heretofore been an all too two-dimensional character. David P. Hoadley

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Bobasaur posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 10:29 AM

What is "chanslash?"

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dphoadley posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 10:37 AM

Probably where Chu-Chuxers get together, and slash each other. Either that or pairing Charlie Chan with Dick Tracy. David

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TrekkieGrrrl posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 10:39 AM

I definately believe that Alan Rickman's portrayal of Snape is heads & shoulders above Rawlings' creation. He breathes life depth into what has heretofore been an all too two-dimensional character. David P. Hoadley"

Uhm yes. Alan Rickman obviously plays a large part in why I find that sort of "litterature" interesting. My criteria for reading a story is that Snape must be one of the "actors"e015.gife025.gif Other than that, I can't agree that Book-Snape is a 2-dimensional character. Actually, he's the only fully fleshed character in the books, he's the only one with a past, for instance. But that's a longer discussion and I'd better stop now, or I can go on for hours about Him 😄 Quote - "What is "chanslash?" "

Slash where (one of) the characters are underage. Not really CP, but in some occasions it comes disturbingly close.

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Bobasaur posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 11:14 AM

Thanks. In the Potterverse that would cover a lot of characters - including everything written by the shippers.

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TrekkieGrrrl posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 11:27 AM

Yes and no. First of all, the english AOC is 16, which makes it a wee bit easier (stricktly speaking, that doesn't apply to student/teacher relationships, but most people tend to ... pretend that isn't a problem. Including me) and most stories takes place in 7th year where the characters are 17. (to make it even more muddled, the AOC is actually 17 in Scotland where Hogwarts is supposed to be, but again.. uhm... technicalities...) Many stories also takes place some time after Hogwarts, typically after the presumed war against Voldemort. And to keep this on the topic, I've read about kinks in those stories that I never knew existed... e015.gif

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Bobasaur posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 11:32 AM

You need to fill momodot in on them... [grin]

Before they made me they broke the mold!
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TrekkieGrrrl posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 11:39 AM

Quote - "You need to fill momodot in on them... [grin]"

Uhm I can't.. They would break the TOS here for sure :lol:

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Bobasaur posted Fri, 07 April 2006 at 11:52 AM

Darn. Another wonderous learning opportunity sacrificed to the gods of political correctness and legalism.

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momodot posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:29 PM

could be wrong but I think that in the USA the AOC ranges from 14-17 according to jurisdiction but visual images, even if utterly imaginary and showing only one person with no explicit content or nudity, are banned below 18, 19, and 21 by the same jurisdictions. Canada has even stricter laws on artists' depictions of people below 19 although the AOC is 12 in some of its jurisdictions. Marriages in North American sub-cultures such as the Mormons and the Travelers often involve "marriage" between females 11-14 and males 25-85. I do not believe that below the age of say 24 or 25 true consent can be suggested in cases where the age difference is more than 2-3 years.  The age for voting in the USA is 18 and the age for drinking alcohol is 21 with an exemption for persons in military service as young as 17!

http://www.coolnurse.com/consent.htm



byAnton posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:39 PM

The furry stuffed animal people always facinate me.

 

I met this man once that was straight and married and would ...

1-dress up as a blonde black woman(he was white)

2-Climb into restaints, jacket and then bodybag in a summer attic with heaters running

3-and then rub against the floor until........

Just the oddest one I ever heard of. Someone else might have one better. I judge noone. :)

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momodot posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:50 PM

Then there is the whole shoe thing... what is that about?



byAnton posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:33 PM

I just realized that posting to a thread bumps it to the top.

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Foxseelady posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 12:50 AM

dawnryder, lactating itself is not weird.....having a fetish about it, that is odd. Of course that's just me if others are into it all the power to them 😉 I couldn't imagine though.

Shoes........ahhh lol they don't make me exited that way but I do really really like shoes!! :laugh:


Cage posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 12:54 AM

I am fascinated by the furry fetishists, and have been ever since I encountered the above image, the so-called "geek chart."  Also, the ABDL (adult baby/diaper lover) community is interesting.  I've explored both in my own dabblings in fan-fiction (I fall at the very bottom of the geek chart).  And the rubber fetish people often have really great outfits.  Wow.

The strangest fetish I've seen was probably the body inflation fetish.  Close second might be a fetish for seeing people gold-plated as statues.  Odd.  But fun, taken as fantasy.  Even the creepy stuff, like the asphyxiation fetish, can be fun, taken as fantasy.  Mind you, I find them fun as an observer.  No practitioner, I.  Cage has no strange habits, whatsoever.  :)

Ernyoka1, where was this Poser adult diaper site?  I have some ABDL clothes on my site.  I used to have associated props.  Do you have the link?  Golly, mine wasn't the site to which you refer, was it?  (Shudder.  What would Kuroyume think?  Gah.)

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dphoadley posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 1:19 AM

Cage,
Your chart overlooked the people who stand out in fields at night and wait to be abducted by UFO's.  This should be followed by those who fantasize having sex with the aliens while standing out in fields at night, waiting to be abducted b ythem; and this should be followed by all the women who, having been abducted, claim that their children are 'Star' material.

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Cage posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 1:29 AM

I think  the geek chart creator was restricting him or herself to areas somehow linked to science fiction writing and fandom.  The UFO abductee and contactee movements might fit, somehow, if you kind of stretch things.  Maybe.

But it isn't my chart.  It's been floating around the web for some time.  I can't claim credit for it, and I don't necessarily agree with the way it seems to laugh at the furry community, in particular.  As I said, the chart brought furry fandom to my attention, and I'm really fascinated by the whole thing.

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TrekkieGrrrl posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 6:54 AM

Cage I love that chart!

Where do Trekkies, who speak a little klingon and dress up in Harry Potter robes while writing erotic fanfics belong in that? :lol:

And I do NOT put myself into the stories. I'm only Mary-Sue'ing by proxy

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EnglishBob posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 8:52 AM

Attached Link: http://www.brunching.com/geekhierarchy.html

There's a bigger, and expanded version of the Geek Hierarchy Chart at the link.

I got started in Poser in order to make pictures of a specific subject of personal interest (my traditional art skills not being wholly up to the job) and found a new hobby and a new community of friends thereby; so I don't consider that a bad thing.


momodot posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 9:31 AM

I used to tell my students that being an artist was akin to spending your life translating the King James Bible into Klingon. An honorable endeavor but unlikely to lead to fortune or prestige... actually I'm pretty sure writing the Klingon translation of the Bible would bring you more of both then is likely to come from brushing oil colors on to canvas..

:b_rolleyes:

My new fetish is trying to use a big smilie on every post!



momodot posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 9:46 AM

Quote: Where do Trekkies, who speak a little klingon and dress up in Harry Potter robes while writing erotic fanfics belong in that?

Feeling superior to the Trekkie who marries their cat taking the Wiccan vows in Klinkgon wearing Harry Potter robes and writes the experience as a  Babalone 5 fanfic on their Blog with Barbra Eden taking the place of the cat.



momodot posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 9:54 AM

[FLAME ME NOW]

:b_scared:



pakled posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 12:23 PM

Heh..I've done some Mary Sue pics (fake books), but haven't done anything serious (there's a site called Lt*tica out there that turned down a submission of mine because of bad grammar..talk about rejection life..don't talk to me about life

Marvin the Robot..;)

 

As for the Kwakiatkul..I'm revealing my age..these are from a service called Roadrner that had a newsgroup (remember them?..;), and under alt.binaries.erica. whatever..you found most of the categories I mentioned..some years back. I never had the gumption to check it out..the stuff I recogonized was bizarro enough..

Alan Rickman's a cool guy..I've had a woman tell me he takes 'the road less travelled' though..whatever that matters..

 

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

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dphoadley posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 12:46 AM

I dedicate this figure to Cage.  Here's a feline furry to warm the cockles of every man's heart. David

PS: Kevin, I think she wants you!  I can see it in her eyes.

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dphoadley posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 12:50 AM

And here she is again, shopping for dinner.  Isn't she a GOOD little housewife? : -)

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dphoadley posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 12:53 AM

And here she is yet again, bagging the groceries.  She may not bring home the bacon, but venison steaks aren't something to sneeze at. ;-). David

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dphoadley posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 2:09 AM

Question: What's a Mary Sue?

For those of us who've been cut off from popular American idiom for the last thirty years, some of the terms and expressions used in these threads leave us rather mouth agape in wonder as to what exactly is beind said.  Well, I looked up at-least one of those terms, and am posting the explanation here.

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A Mary Sue (or just Sue) is a fictional character, the term originating from fan fiction, who is an idealised stand-in for the author. It is also sometimes used to describe any stand-in for the author (whether idealized or not), any idealized character (whether a stand-in for the author or not), or any original character in fan-fiction.

Mary Sue may be used to describe a character of any gender but male Mary Sues may also be called "Marty Stus," "Murray Stus," "Harry Stus," or "Gary Stus." "Airy Ooh" is a rarely used unisex variant of the term. Authors of such characters (of either sex) are sometimes referred to as Suethors.

While Mary Sues are generally written unintentionally, some authors deliberately write Mary Sues as a form of parody.

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Etymology

The term "Mary Sue" was coined because of the popularity of these names in the English-speaking population. Mary and Sue have become the symbol of every possible girl, which means the Mary Sue is usually replaceable by anyone inserted in fanfiction, because they aren't canon. The most frequently used male terms "Gary Stu" and "Harry Stu" may exist because of the optical and phonetic affinity.

Mary Sue (or simply Sue) is a pejorative expression for a fictional character who is an idealised stand-in for the author, or for a story with such a character. Originally, the Mary Sue concept came out of Star Trek fan fiction and described an original female character who had a romantic liaison with an established, canon character, particularly if she possessed unrealistic or unlikely traits above and beyond those expected of a character in that particular series, or a conventional author surrogate. However, in recent years the concept has developed a wider meaning, so that any author surrogate character can be defined as Mary Sue. Some believe the term to have originated in a Star Trek fan fiction parody published in 1973's Menagerie #2 written by Paula Smith. The story "A Trekkie's Tale" parodied some current fanfiction in the community which featured original female characters with whom Captain Kirk or Mr. Spock fell in love and who were able to save the day. The term gained mainstream use in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

A more recent definition, based on a misunderstanding of the term in its original context, states that Mary Sue is any original character who possesses unusual qualities, parentage, or appearance — particularly in, but not limited to, science fiction or fantasy, whether original or fan fiction. By this definition, Lessa of Anne McCaffrey's Pern stories, Vanyel of Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar series, Rudyard Kipling's intrepid orphan Kim, Ayla of Jean M. Auel's Earth's Children series, and Elminster from Ed Greenwood's Forgotten Realms novels and RPG setting, are all Mary Sues. Some have gone further, changing previously understood definitions, and have begun to define any original characters in fan fiction as Mary Sue.

In fan fiction, Mary Sue characters are usually the original creation of the author, but sometimes "canon Sues" are created by altering pre-existing canon characters. Conversely, such original or adapted characters are not necessarily Mary Sues. The Peter Jairus Frigate character of the Riverworld series, for instance, is deliberately based on his author but rarely the focus of the story (unlike Tom Sawyer, for instance — a Mary Sue by 2005 standards). However, there are a great number of what many fans think of as pre-existing Sues in canon.

Some fan critics believe that young writers tend to create "narcissistic" Sues and "unintentional" Sues -- characters that develop into Sues due to the author's supposed subconscious desires. Some authors now write Mary Sues deliberately as a form of parody.

Lately, however, Mary Sue in fanfiction is generally considered an original character written by the author into the universe of his/her choosing to upstage the canon characters, occupy the center stage, and take over the story entirely to satisfy the author's ego. Whether or not she exhibits all, none, or few of the classical Mary Sue traits is irrelevant. She has still taken over the established universe to the point that canonical characters are brought beneath her in all regards.

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Traits of Mary Sues

Mary Sues are characterized by their unusual and dramatic traits and experiences, their similarity to their author, and, especially, their exaggerated superiority to other characters.

Mary Sues normally have exceptional physical and personal characteristics, unusual and (typically) tragic backgrounds. They may have uncommon eye or hair colors and come from a race or species which is uncommon or unknown in the story’s setting. They may have exotic names, pets, and possessions. As children, they experienced abuse or other hardships that were substantially worse than the abuse or hardship experienced by other characters and by the vast majority of people in the real world -- though they seldom if ever display any evidence in personality or behavior of having been traumatized. In adulthood, they are misunderstood or unfairly persecuted. They are abandoned as infants, from a famous or infamous family, or related to the author’s favorite character.

They almost always share hobbies, likes and dislikes, and opinions with the author. They may be of the same nationality or age as the author and have similar but more dramatic physical appearances or backgrounds. In fan-fic, they cause things to happen that the author wishes would happen in canon. They mock and humiliate characters the author dislikes; if these characters are well-liked in canon they reveal to the other characters that they are secretly evil. If a character is disliked by most canon characters but liked by the author, the Mary Sue realizes that they are not really bad but merely misunderstood and either explains this to the other characters or becomes the character's sole confidant and friend. Mary Sues bring together characters the author thinks should be romantically involved with one another or become romantically involved with characters to whom the author is attracted.

Mary Sues have more and better skills than other characters in the story and easily solve problems that stump other characters. Young Mary Sues often have skills or accomplishments that are substantially greater than those of other characters their age and of the vast majority of people their age in the real world. Mary Sues are presented as more moral than other characters and frequently sacrifice their lives or happiness for the sake of other characters. They often have moral ideas that are common in the Western world today but unusual for the setting of the story. They are normally exceptionally attractive.

Mary Sues are heavily praised by the author and other characters. If Mary Sues are criticized, the criticizer is evil or misinformed and the criticism is used to emphasize the misunderstanding and persecution that the Mary Sues face. If Mary Sues have flaws or limitations, they are either minor and endearing or yet another hardship for the Sue to overcome (e.g. paraplegia.)

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Canon-Sues

Canon-Sues are canon characters who are changed into idealized stand-ins for a fan-fic author. Canon-Sues learn or are suddenly revealed to have powers or skills which make them substantially and unprecedentedly superior to the other characters. They have hobbies, likes and dislikes, and opinions that are never shown in canon and are the same as the author's own. If Canon-Sues have flaws (especially physical unattractiveness) or opinions the author disagrees with, they will be overcome within the story or ignored entirely. Canon-Sues reveal tragic pasts never mentioned in canon, dwell on tragic pasts mentioned but not dwelt upon in canon, and are misunderstood or persecuted by other characters to a degree that they have never been in canon. Canon-Sues become friends with characters the author likes and enemies with characters the author dislikes, even if the reverse was true in canon. Changes to canon characters are made only to make the character more exceptional, pitiable, or similar to the author, and not as part of genuine character growth. Often Canon-Sues will befriend, date, or be mentored by an original character Mary Sue.

The process of creating a Canon-Sue is called “sueification.” Canon-Sues are often referred to as [Character’s name]-Sue. Authors of original fiction may also be accused of “sueifying” if they suddenly idealize in canon a previously average character.

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Romantic Sues

Romantic Sues are idealized versions of the author’s perfect lover, rather than of the author him or herself. Many female anime characters are criticized for being the (male) writer's Romantic Sues.

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Anti-Sues

In an effort to create a character who is not a Mary-Sue, an author will sometimes go to an extreme reversal of the typical 'Mary-Sue' traits. Anti-Sues will often be described with just as much detail as their Mary-Sue counterparts; however, the description will usually be one that tells the reader in extreme detail how unbeautiful (or how pretty-but-not-stunningly beautiful), unpopular, unrich, naive, unoptimistic, etc. the character is. However, these characters can be just as forced and as overbearing as their prettier Mary Sue counterparts.

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Gary Stu

While female Mary Sues are often bright (literally and figuratively) and cheerful, Gary Stus are generally much darker, tending more toward brooding and violent behavior. They are very often apathetic and roguish, having no regard for authority or law. They will often get away with their transgressions again and again - or when they actually are punished, they are completely indifferent.

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Criticism

The concept of the Mary Sue has been criticized on the grounds that:

Some critics agree with the basic Mary Sue concept but believe that it is (wrongly) applied to characters who are unusual in any way or to any original or changed character in fan-fic. Other critics argue that Mary Sue should be applied only to idealized author-surrogates, not to characters who are only idealized or only author-surrogates.

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Sources

[1] Verba, Joan Marie. BOLDLY WRITING: A Trekker Fan and Zine History 1967-1987. Mankato, MN: FTL Publications, 1996.

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Bobasaur posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 9:13 AM

Yes, she wants me. The question is... for what? [grin]

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MartinW posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 9:43 AM

I know this is going back a little from Mary Sues to the original topic, but here's a true story to warm your...heart

A few years ago I worked with someone who had a sideline

He used to sell used/worn female underwear through the newspapers

The 'product' was guaranteed as 'genuine' by means of, ah, a few...hairs with every used/worn panty

So one year he had three women 'working' for him as 'suppliers'

Trouble was, they were too successful, and by the end of the summer all three women had completely depilated themselves

So, not to disappoint their customers...the began pulling a few hairs out of the tail of a pet cat!

Anyway, after the summer that year, when the women's share of the profits had paid for them to have a very nice holiday, the enterprise kinda faltered and finished

And the punchline - he was my manager in a very well known UK bank!


momodot posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 12:24 PM

Not to be mean but which breed of cat has hair on it's tail that is anything like human pubic or head hair? What kinda dumb_ss cat would stick around to put up with that sort of thing? Maybe people who buy soiled underwear from newspaper adds are more broadminded then I be... maybe in fact the business was oriented toward Furry enthusiasts but your pall was to shy to mention that.

:blink:



MartinW posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 12:32 PM

momodot - I have no idea of the breed of cat used to donate hairs, but from what my friend told me it was just a service to sell used/worn pantys. Believe me, if it had have been more (furry, etc.) he would not have hesitated in telling me. It makes me wonder as to the, ah, degree of experience of the purchasers with women...or maybe they were just too shy to ask for a refund?!


pakled posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 6:43 PM

I am a bad influence, I see that now..;)
My favorite Mary Sue quote is  (something along the lines of).."bolder than Kirk, more compassionate than McKoy, smarter than Spock..and sleeps with all 3..;)"

I don't know if it's true or  not, but I've been told that  the British are head and shoulders above many others in coming up with new kinks..;) And for some reason after reading all this, I'm reminded of the Python skit about dressing up as mice, at a party, eating cheese, etc..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


momodot posted Fri, 14 April 2006 at 8:00 PM

Quote - It makes me wonder as to the, ah, degree of experience of the purchasers with women...

Now you are really scaring me :-) I may not be the worlds foremost expert on pussy hair but I think I know it when I see it.



Cage posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 12:11 AM

I love Wikipedia, and I really like your cat-lady, dphoadley, although her neck-chomping habits are a bit intimidating.  And this underwear thing kind of scares me....  :)  I'm glad to know about Mary Sues, however.  Hmm.  I seem to have written a few.  In fact, my avatar is a Mary Sue!  Neat.  :)

What does it mean that we've gotten "Multiple Advisories"?  I clicked on "details" but nothing happened.  It just sent me back to the top of the page.  If we get enough advisories, do we get a prize?  Or do we get locked out of Rosity again? 

Maybe I should read the latest TOS, eh?

Anyway, I apologize if I have said anything deserving of an advisory!  Jeepers.

 

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momodot posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 11:30 AM

Multiple Advisories just means people in the thread have clicked clicked more than one of the Nudity, Violence, or Language boxes... that is what I thought?

I propose that the male version for Mary Sue should be hensforth "Harry Postter"... he sure scores high on the Sue-nosity meter! Hits basically every point listed in the Wikipedia article.

Once I was really fat due to some meds I was on... wow their were a lot of chubby chasers after me, male and female. Now no one notices me :) Why aren't there any nerd-boy chasers like that latin chick in the American Pie sequel. I saw that on video while laid out drunk and sick on an air matress in a heavily fortified apartment surrounded by armed guards in Central America. Oy! The nerd chick (not the Vicky-esk nerd chaser) had to be the sexiest girl in movies... the one with the flute! How is that for a kink... nerdy girls! I did see a website for enthusiates of photos of youg women posing with their eyes crossed, was that a nerd thing?

How do two people with lip rings and tungues studs exchange salivae I wonder? I would be terrified of getting hung up! Not to mention being afraid of cold weather and hot coffee!

Well, this thread was worth it for me to learn a little about slash and Mary Sues! I wonder if their are Mary Seusses? People who write themseves into Dr. Seuss stories?



dphoadley posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 12:47 PM

Dear Cage,
    Thanks for the endorsement.  It's not Cat Woman, but PantherGirl.  She's an Eve 4 figure created with morphs generously supplied to me by both momodot and pakled**,** (for which I'm eternally grateful).  Especially useful were the morphs by which I moved the ears to the back and top of her head.  The texture is Traveler's Snow Leopard, available at his MorphWorld site.
    If anybody is interested in developing the figure further, then they can contact me at: dph@013.net.il
    Sincerely,
    David P. Hoadley
    Happy Passover!

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pakled posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 1:11 PM

Blink!? I supplied morphs? I've done 2 so far, and no one's asked for them that I know of..(though I am getting a bit long in the tooth..memory's the 2nd thing to go..;) I appreciate the plug, but  all I have to offer are some messed up helmets at Traugs, and some classic keyboards at Planit3d (there..now that's a plug..;)  thanks anyways..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


dphoadley posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 1:37 PM

I meant via your NEAena Posette.  Her face morphs, along with others given to my by momodot were crucial in developing my Eve 4 characters: Olga, Ayesharya, Bolliharya, Kimberly Kwick, & Heather Haste.
And again, thank you for providing the bricks by which we build.
Sincerely yours,
David P. Hoadley

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darken666 posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 1:55 PM

Attached Link: http://www.deviantart.com/view/1367741/

Thinking of Harry Potter and the oft-frightening world of internet slash fiction...  I ran across this pic some time ago, and thought it apt for that subject. :)

 

As for fetishes, I've only got two, girls in glasses, and big women (200 lbs - 250 lbs range.)   

And I think the weirdest I've seen is the Inflation fetish which involves pictures of girls being inflated with various kinds of air pumps like they were balloons...

 


momodot posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 2:48 PM

dp, I think you are confusing pakled with pitklad... a common error. :-)

/And I think the weirdest I've seen is the Inflation fetish which involves pictures of girls being inflated with various kinds of air pumps like they were balloons.../

That is interesting. Fits in the category of surrealist/impractical fetish.

Glasses are cool... why? As a kid liked the dorky girls, not all of them wore glasses but certainly none of the frieghtful cool girls did. You like Velma I take it? Or not that type :)



darken666 posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 2:58 PM

Ah yes, Velma was one of my favorite characters. :)


dphoadley posted Sat, 15 April 2006 at 4:09 PM

Oops!  My appologies to all injured parties.  I am still gratefull however to all who have aided me in my creations.
Sincerely yours,
David P. Hoadley
Happy Passover!

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sixus1 posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 12:25 AM

Just when I thought that I had heard of them all....then came Voraphilia. 

"What is a "Vorarephile?"

A vorarephile is someone who has intense interest in or is sexually aroused by one creature eating another. The eating involved can be something as "soft" as a frog swallowing a fly, or as "hard" as a lion tearing its prey apart with claws and teeth. Cannibalism, animals eating each other, amoebas engulfing other microscopic creatures... it's all there, depending on the individual's interest. A vorarephile's emotional reaction to their fantasies is almost always erotic, but can vary from gentle, joyful surrender, to the adrenaline rush of panic and pain. Vorarephiles may enjoy the thrill of the hunt as either predator or prey."

You can find the website by googling 'vore'
Don't ask why I know :)

--Rebekah--


dphoadley posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 1:06 AM

Quote - And I think the weirdest I've seen is the Inflation fetish which involves pictures of girls being inflated with various kinds of air pumps like they were balloons...

In my late teens, I came across a book titled 'Sex From A to Z'.  Among the fetishes described, was one in which the man blew into the woman's vagina.  Of the disparate cases recorded, however, several ended with fatal consequences for the woman.  Apparently the air pressure ruptured something inside of her, killing her.
So whatever inflationary fetishes are involved here, if it's not simple fantasizing, I can't help but doubt as to their veracity.  That is, of course, unless we're talking about a variation of the 'Snuff' fetish.

On the other hand, I have seen video clips involving vacuming, where vaginal pumps are used to greatly distend the Mons Veneris and Labia Majora.  Possibly that is what is being referred to.
Hoadley

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momodot posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 9:55 AM

Vacuuming? Yuck. I was once on a TV advertisement focus group with a guy who became litteraly incenced because one of the adds showed a man vacuming (his living room), he also could not tell any african american actor/characters apart. The later saw the add and there were no dark skinned people and there was no vacuming for anyone. It was a banking commercial.

I have seen ads in the local "alternative" paper by "large" men seeking male "trainers" to help them gain weight and by "trainers" seeking "large" male "trainees" to coach in eating... I got the impression that these ads did not have to do with nutritional issues.



dphoadley posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 10:41 AM

> **Quote - "I have seen ads in the local "alternative" paper by "large" men seeking male "trainers" to help them gain weight and by "trainers" seeking "large" male "trainees" to coach in eating... I got the impression that these ads did not have to do with nutritional issues."**

**

Double Yuck!!
Let's get back to the furries.  Here's PantherGirl in a less Vorarephilic mood.  I'd rather look at her than inflated overweight men, for that all I ahve to do is stand in front of a mirror.

Hoadley**

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pakled posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 4:01 PM

ok..thank heavens...glad that's straightened out..Pakled is a none-to-bright alien, the intellectual equal of NaySayGuy, and pitklad is a ..well, what is a Pitklad?..;)

the weirdness stuff seems to be all over  the deian art website..but it's hard to tell with that place..(misspell a name, and there's no telling what you're gonna see..;) one of the funniest ones was a cartoon called 'blueberry girl', or something like that. It reminds me of a movie called Cecil B Demented, where they have some fetish movie theatre, with..well, I won't say, it's too freaky for me..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


dphoadley posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 4:44 PM

 Sorry about that, Pakled; hope I didn't cause you any embarrassment.
I think that the fetish that most disgusted me was something called scat.  I'd prefer not to elaborate beyond that.
Hoadley

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pitklad posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 4:49 AM

:rolleyes:


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FishNose posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 6:35 AM

All fetisches are perfectly OK with me - as long as all people involved are into it voluntarily.

No matter how 'odd' the behaviour may seem to others, it means something to someone and therefore I respect it.

So, none of that "How can ANYONE like xxxxxx? Eeeew" nonsense please.

Mostly I am fascinated by the fact that SO many people - including many in the Poser community - feel such a strong need to spread their opinion to influence others, as though they know right and anyone who is different to them doesn't have a clue and is only worthy of derision.

Come on people, get tolerant already. We're in the 21st Century now.

I'm talking to the ones who say "HOW could anyone xxxxx", not to everyone in here in general of course.

Of course I'm wasting my breath, but I guess that's my fetisch ;o)

:] Fish (no I'm not a fish fetischist, lool)

PS - Someone here thought using Poser for making porn was strange behaviour - i really hope that was irony, lol! Hilarious!

 


dphoadley posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 8:39 AM

Attached Link: History of Porn

> Quote - PS - Someone here thought using Poser for making porn was strange behaviour - i really hope that was irony, lol! Hilarious!/quote] > Not only is it NOT strange, but it follows a well established tradition.  Animated porn, has among other things, involved some to the best jewellers and clockmakers of the past three hundred years.  Poser only adds a new twist to the whole affair. > David P. Hoadley > > P.S.  I still think manure is disgusting for all but agricultural purposes.

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momodot posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 9:43 AM

Well, my motto is:
You can't argue with taste!
I guess sometimes you must apply that literally ;-)

No, no one should feel bad if no one gets hurt... I find the polymorphus perversity of people interesting and maybe in some certain way humaine. When people have something particularly complicated I always find it kind of comforting when they can find someone who actually wants to go along with it.

I wonder if there is a catagorical difference between people who like to see women eating pie, or images thereof, and people who can not be "gratified" without the cooperation of a woman eating pie.

As a cultural historian I have had to write concerning such issues as shoe fetishism and the fetishism of industrial materials (rubber, PVC, Lycra) and this always leads me to contemplate what must have been the resort of the Paleolithic fetishists...  "honey, what would you think of wearing this skunk pelt tonight once the kids are a sleep?" or maybe the more conventional, "honey, what would you think of wearing this honey tonight?"

What is a Monster OT thread without a post count!

I did really want to hear about fetishes witnessed in Poser... but oh well.
At least we all know what not to send dp in the mail for Chanukah next year!



dphoadley posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 10:06 AM

 Actually, my birthday's in July, which is sooner.  I don't mind gifts of ANY kind, just so long as they're not brown and smelly, or yellow, wet & smelly!  I've cleaned far TOO many IDF latrines to be fascinated by anything of that sort, especially when Israel's public facilities used to be the 'Stoopy' kind.
May you all enjoy a pleasant and dulcetly fragrant Passover.
David P.Hoadley

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Cage posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 10:38 AM

Hmm.  I agree with FishNose.  It didn't occur to me that a discussion like this might seem to be critical toward the topic of discussion.  But I guess "weird" is sort of a value judgement.  I am fascinated by the whole matter, personally.

Although I might go "ewww" when confronted with gore, snuff, vore, coprophilia and/or coprophagia related fetishes....

So maybe I should rescind that first paragraph.  Hmm.

An immense "thank you" for the "Mary Sue" info.  I don't get to Wikipedia often enough.  What a great place.  Looking up Furries and ABDL was interesting.

Here's a question: does anyone have any idea what may be the most prevalent fetsh?  Or which might be the oldest documented fetish?  Maybe I should check the "history of porn" link, above?

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momodot posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 10:47 AM

Quote - **An immense "thank you" for the "Mary Sue" info.  I don't get to Wikipedia often enough.  What a great place.  Looking up Furries and ABDL was interesting.**Here's a question: does anyone have any idea what may be the most prevalent fetsh?  Or which might be the oldest documented fetish?  Maybe I should check the "history of porn" link, above?

 

Ditto. Ditto.

 

Cage... you bring up a certain issue... what fetish isn't a weird fetish ;-)



dphoadley posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 11:42 AM

Attached Link: Lady Chatterley's Lover

### From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

Lady Chatterley's Lover

'In chapter 15 there is a passage in which Mellors approaches Lady Chatterley from behind "and short and sharp, he took her, short and sharp and finished, like an animal." Even the normally explicit Lawrence does not spell out whether this was vaginal or anal sex, but some events and language in the scene that follows suggest the latter. At the time, even the mention of anal sex was so highly taboo that the very existence of the practice was unknown to many people. There is no way to know how the prosecution interpreted that passage, and or whether the outcome might have been different had Lawrence been explicit.'

I believe Cage, that this basically answers your question on both accounts: "What is the Oldest and most widespread fetish?"
P.S. There's also the scene of the two doing the deed out in the open on the forest floor, so sex in public places must also count as an age old fetish.

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momodot posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 12:21 PM

dp, I thiink that text is too explicet for the forum :(

As for the practice, I have seen these acts depicted in reference toa variety of assortments of male and female figures on ancient greek vases. I believe there is allusion to it in the bible. I have no doubt at all that it is not true the very existence of the practice was unknown to many people then or in the Paleolithic... some people may profess not to know what they infact know very well.

For homosexual use of the practice in the 18th c. see:
 
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/eighteen.htm

Also one of my favorite books in social history is at:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0854491880/102-2324613-9036149?v=glance&n=283155

But I think maybe this thread has run its course. I was hoping the discussion would be merely allusive and referance weird kinks seen in Poser. In fact I have no idea why I started the thread... it is just that the dialog represented in the first post was so curious and the image of those tiny Poser 1.0 dudes with giant photo-ladies was so haunting. One thing haunting about it was that it was PG-13 as opposed to even R-rated as I recall.

Sorry :(



momodot posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 12:26 PM

Now that I think of it, that practice hardly in most cases meets the criteria of being a fetish:

An object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression.

I suppose we must add an "act" in the case of the inflation thing.



dphoadley posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 4:40 PM

As for actual kinks in Poser, I've see a few over at 'rotica & Raunchy Minds; but an awful lot of these involved forced sex, sadism, and torture -none of which I particularly care for.  I saw one particular one that's stayed in my mind involving a pregnant woman with an enormously bloated stomach (here's a variation of teh inflation theme) about to be suspended over apool of water in preparation to giving birth (possibly an Alien offspring).
Others there seem to involve women being impregnated by alien creatures, some by means of mechanical devices and tentacles.
Then there's one consecutive series of pictures of a woman held bondage in a basement and forced to provide a husband a wife team with offspring, one after another.  It ends with a classic snuff film denouement.
All said, the nature of much of the 'art' there seems more of an acting out of frustration, rather than titillation (pun possibly intended).
Momodot, is this the kind of discussion you were looking for?

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momodot posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 6:21 PM

Scary but I guess so. I was hoping for something more along the lines of Brittney Spears clones driving tractors!  :-)

No prob. dp :)



dphoadley posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 11:38 PM

"I was hoping for something more along the lines of Brittney Spears clones driving tractors!  :-)"

That hardly sounds like a fetish to me,... unless of course she's doing it in the buff, and one can get his jollies by watching her 'bounce' over rough terrain.  That does sound interesting, something on a par with the Japanese film 'Goldbird', which starred three Romanian gold medalist gymnasts doing their specialties in various stages of undress, ending finally with them wearing only a bikini bottom (THAT added a WhOLE new dimension to the body flips over the horse'.  Then tere were the floor exercises, the high bars, and the beam, all very delectable.  I guess the real thrill was in watching the muscle play, and the flow flawless skin across the bodies of three extremely healthy and fit femails in motion without the hindrance of clothing.  Plus the fact that there's the added enjoyment of actually seeing SUCH personna perform in the nude.

In the same vein, I've seen another Japanese production, this time of femail ballet dancers performing 'Swan Lake' in the buff.  Again the very outre-ness itself of the performanc is an added attraction,
DAvid P. Hoadley

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Bobasaur posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 9:50 AM

"Tolerance" as a concept, would include being tolerant of other peoples distaste for an idea as well as their liking of it. In other words a truly "tolerant" person would be equally accepting of both those who get aroused by sticking bananas up their noses and those who are repulsed by it. Note: this isn't directed at any comment or participant in this thread. It's just a general obserevation.

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momodot posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 10:45 AM

Good point Bobasaur... sticks and stones right? Someone calling you a sicko is alright so long as they don't deny you a lively hood and drive you out of town. Who knows? Maybe that is what they get off on ;-)



odeathoflife posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 3:20 PM

The reference to the Native American of the Pacific West Cost is that they have little carvings and nick nacks that they keep in their medicine bag that are termed fetishes....this was coined long before there was a sexual nature to the word...

I like ladies in panties LOL.

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Bobasaur posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 4:10 PM

That's right momodot. ;-)

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momodot posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 5:33 PM

Quote - "The reference to the Native American of the Pacific West Cost is that they have little carvings and nick nacks that they keep in their medicine bag that are termed fetishes....this was coined long before there was a sexual nature to the word... I like ladies in panties LOL."

So is keeping ladies' panties in a medicine bag a fetish to the second power? :)



odeathoflife posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 6:21 PM

LOL maybe I might try that hahahahahahah

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dphoadley posted Wed, 19 April 2006 at 9:42 PM

Attached Link: Got Kinks?

momodot: Click on the above link, Gordon_S has fulfilled your quest, ite would seem. David

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dphoadley posted Fri, 21 April 2006 at 3:50 AM

Quote - " In other words a truly "tolerant" person would be equally accepting of both those who get aroused by sticking bananas up their noses and those who are repulsed by it.

Yikes Bobasaur, shades of Arnold Schwarzenegger in ‘Total Recall’, you’ve just described an Ears, Nose, and Throat Specialist’s nightmare (along with one of Michael Jackson’s), but a Plastic Surgeon’s dream.

Actually, it’s not so far off base.  My youngest daughter, when she was three, once stuck something up her nose.  It took my wife and I a week to finally figure out why she was breathing so hard, even our family doctor couldn’t figure out what was wrong.  Finally, we took her to an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist, who noting that her breath was somewhat foetid, stuck a tweezers up her nose and extracted a large wad of cotton and a sunflower seed that had lodged in her sinuses.

(The moral of this little tale: People, especially children, will DO the strangest things; and when you LEAST expect it).

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Bobasaur posted Fri, 21 April 2006 at 11:29 AM

One of my sisters stuck a rock up her nose and mom had to pull it out with tweezers as well. ;-)

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grahamjames posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 6:40 PM

Slightly off topic but wierd nontheless. Several years ago I tried to join a file sharing site which I found by googling Star Trek episodes. This site was like a tiny version of kzz but everything was split into groups that had only like 100 members. The busiest groups demanded that you share a whopping amount of files but it was measured in mbs not quality. Everyone shared their c  drive, their downloads, their incoming emails etc,etc. As soon as you logged into the site it chose your downloads folder as a default shared folder and checked the size to see which groups you were allowed to join. At this point I was permanently banned for sharing inapropriate material. I was dumbstruck as this site was famous for sharing hard core porn. I managed to send a message to the admins asking what the suspect file was. It was P3DO ! Apparently that is peadophile shorthand. I can't remember the name of the site and I couldn't be bothered to try to clear my name so I never went back.


sixus1 posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 9:04 PM

"It was P3DO ! Apparently that is peadophile shorthand"

Actually, in this day and age...that is good info to know.

 

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