I know there are numbers on the right, but having the full thread, with each response, visible gave a quicker visual of what topics got a lot of responses. Subject lines no longer change color to show that they've been clicked nor do the new icons switch from read to unread, so I've got to find an alternative way to remind me where things left off when I go to the forums the next day.

Well, I'm testing by the moment... :blink: ... also the emoticons :lol:

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Thanks, bandolin. It's the same in all the forums I am :woot: Angel1@ Report this: "notify by email" isn't working

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From a webmaster's point of view, these forums are a lot easier to tweak - they should be able to fix the issues relatively fast. I like the new forum style, now they just need to redo the rest of the site in php too. LOL.

Just enjoying the Vue. :0)

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I FUCKING HATE IT. Im so sick of changes here just for chages sake. We lost Baron Vlad Harkonen, Wyrmmaster, and god knows how many other merchants cause of marketplace changes, now the whole forum looks like some wierd bloated out stranger.

I don't like the new look of the forums... I've seen it in many other sites and i also HATE it.

Avatars and smileys teach us just so much about using poser dont they? This forum was a beautiful, simple, streamlined place of knowledge. Now it looks like a fucking pre-school.

on a dial-up the forums were slow before, now they are glacial. avatars, smileys and animated gifs do nothing but slow things down more.

I'm not a big fan of the avitars and smilies either. Extra baggage to load that really isn't needed.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.

NO, I too have seen it on other web sites, I do not care for it.

Terrible, the avatars,smilies and signatures are a total waste of space.

But I bet you all loved the old search engine? ;) I don't like that we couldn't carry over our interface color settings, but this looks to be a great improvement over the old (archaic, crumbling, workflow-deficient, slow) forums. One must imagine that it will be weeks or months before all features are added and oddities resolved.

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I miss the direct link to thread replies. If I had a bookmark or made a comment on a particular thread, I liked having a direct link to that particular thread in the e-bot notification. Now I have to go through the whole list in the forum to find the one I wanted. I also prefer to get the whole subject of a thread on the one page, in case I want to save it. For instance, a Geep Tut which sometimes has additional links, already makes for more than one page. Why should we need to worry about three pages for something that already has additional links and where the original first part only needed one page to begin with?

Takes a bit of getting used to, I like it! :)

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overall i prefer this type of forum to the previous one, but i could do without items that just waste bandwidth: - avatars -- ok, so it personalizes the entry some, but please, don't make yours blink - giant smilies -- give me a break, are we preschoolers here? - quoting an entire post instead of only a relevant sentence -- KILL - large images in signatures -- KILL, EAT i expect the post bumping and marked-read update and search engine will be fixed, and most of the above is guided by community behaviour, so i am hopeful this'll end up being a more usable place.

Niles your avitar is the cutest one. I'm still laughy and smiling. I love it. I do not like how the front of the forum looks, all that writing, black and white, hurts my eyes.

Love is Grandchildren.

I hate the missing links, I've tried to find a tutorial but I had to use to search engine to find, before the conversion I had a direct link to it. (BTW. the search engine is faster, thats a fact!

-How can you improve things when you don't make mistakes?

I prefer this style of forums to the previous ones.. altho I really don't like the fact that my personal colour settings gets overriden.. the old forums were easier on the eyes as I could have them with a dark background

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please because nobody tries to please him.

I haven't noticed any advantages yet, but here are some disadvantages I noticed right away: 1) Much slower than before (hope this is temporary). 2) Thread titles don't change color after being read. 3) Avatars & emoticons clutter up the page (I've never been a fan of "cute") and probably add to load time. 4) CTRL-ScrollWheel no longer changes the size of the type. Is there another way to do this now? NOTE: I normally don't post an opinion so soon after a change. I'm doing this now, however, to test the ebots.

Hope that 'Printer Friendly' is going to come back in this format too. When a thread contains a good tute with pics it is invaluable to be able to save it without sidebars and all other info. Please!!

Don't like the color....I want my personal color choice back, this is killing my eyes:blink: Need bigger fonts. New threads/replies need to bumped to the top IMHO

I like it

It's "mind over matter". If I don't mind,it don't matter.

I've seen quite a few people complain about the small fonts. I do believe it's an optic trick. As far as I can see, the font (verdana) and size is exactely as it used to be. The only difference, to me, is that I now have black text on a light grey/blueish grey background instead of black background with white text. But the size is the same. - it's easy to remedy btw. on a Windows PC click CTRL and use the scroll wheel on your mouse to make the text bigger or smaller

Jackson: 1) I've noticed no appreciable slowness. If anything, forum and thread loads are nominally equivalent. Maybe not faster, but at least it doesn't take five minutes to view a thread on one forum while two seconds on another. 3) Get used to it? I think that the avatars provide a good mnemonic for remembering users. With tens of thousands of users, names sometimes get tough to keep track of. 4) Your browser? If I hit Ctrl and rotate the scrollwheel, the font size changes - and very quickly. This feature is not part of any forum or website, it is a browser/OS/mouse feature. Start by looking there. No problem with email responses. I receive an email for every new post in a thread that I started/responded within. I think that order of replies should be up to the user (as can be done in other forum softwares). I like them in chronological order from first to last. :tongue2:

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Kuroyume: Thanks for the response. As to #1, it still is a lot slower on my machine. It seems others are reporting "slower" and others aren't. Don't know why. #3: Yes I can get used to it, but I don't have to like it. It's just clutter to me, increases load time, and looks childish. (Oh gee, Muffy! I really looooove your new avatar, it's TOTALLY AWESOME! giggle) #4: My browser/mouse work fine using the Ctrl-scrollwheel in other areas, just not these forums. For example, it works on the Front Page and the Freebies page. Emails: Yeah, I'm getting emails on every new post, too. Don't want that. I just want to know when someone replies to a thread I've replied to. Is there a way to do that? Thanks again.

What an amazing thing, this progress. Slow bloatware must be the current thingy, so swallow it we must.........

Jackson: Seems to be a continuous thing with Renderosity. Wouldn't doubt this has more to do with servers and node paths - why, I don't know? Many forums allow users to set various features (such as show/hide avatars, show/hide quotes). This is why I like vBulletin. Know nothing of the functionality of Bondware 3.0. This font sizing doesn't make sense. Possibly it is the php causing the issue? Have you tried doing the same in the MarketPlace (since it is using the same software)? I'm using FireFox 1.5 on Windows XP Pro - no problems. Again, the email notification is usually something you can set in your settings (notify daily, on each new post, etc.). It will be nice when such settings are available.

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Jackson & others: I agree with you 100%. To me, avatars, emoticons and signatures just get in the way. I read the forums for information and ideas and have avoided the forums at other sites because of these distractions. I have never found the forums at other sites to have as much information passed along, either, and I always attributed that to those distracting elements. I hope the wisdom doesn't stop flowing now.

It's soooo wide! If it weren't for the hoz scroll each page driving me crazy, sliding it sideways does at least get the text part to fit in 800 pixels AND hides the overly large avatars & associated column ;-) But real problem is it's an order of magnitude or 2 too slow. Anyone used CPG-Nuke, this stuff can be fast. Fear it was not designed for speed. Check out those already infamous yelow pentagons - each is a UNIQUE graphic (that just look the same) so each loads individually and visibly slowly, and hammers my bandwidth - let alone what it does to the server. [Right-click and View Image one and look at it's URL....] And why doesn't the Preview page have a copy of the Input text, without another button click? That's archaic alright, but again, a "feature" that slows the site "by design." BTW anyone figured out yet which pefectly good OSS app this was before it was slowed done, err, enhanced? OMG, they are downloading the CSS on every page! What a hoot! It's like a browser history lesson - (Maybe "How Not To Progress" would be a good title?) Opps! No record trail left on post edits - this is my 2nd. (Should make for some interesting revisionist posting, IYKWIM ;-) And no preview on edits, so don't make errors when fixing you errors :-P

It's slower, definitely. 2) Now I have to think of a cute avatar. 3) "Search by relevance" - hmmm. Not sure. Said it before, will say it again: smart technology is simply a way for machines to show off just how bloody stupid they can be. 4) I also have to think of a cute tagline. "Corrupted CR2 files - messed-up bend zones - render artifacts - now you REALLY know what it's like to be God." Nah, too long.

Forums seem slower to me. I am more used to PHP forum boards, so I like this new one a lot more.

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Not to be too negative against the 'negativity', but I take it that none of you use other forums? Almost every other that I regular (CGTalk, Randi, mine, Daz3D to name a few) uses php-style forums just like this (except mainly phpBB or vBulletin). So, if you really hate this forum, how do you justify going to any others just like this one??? Seems double-standardish to me. Let the flames roll in. ;)

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

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I didn't have too many complaints about the old forums, and the new ones seem pretty decent as well, BUT... The email notification is a too much now. I'm getting a notice for every new post in a thread -- so apologies to everyone who just got another notification because of this complaint. The old forums would send you one notification and not send anymore until you'd visited the thread page again. Then it would reset. Now, on some of the busier threads, I'm coming back to my computer to find 10 notices that someone has posted to this new thread. One is sufficient and just as timely. I hope that's something that can be adjusted.

I love the new forums. They still have a LOT less features than the ones I'm used to, but even so, I think it's a vast improvement over the archaic style we had before. The only thing that annoys me is threads with new replies not being bumped to the top of the list. Hopefully that will be fixed soon.

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Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf

The main problem right now is, as danamongden said, the thing with the ebots. I just got up (i's morning here) and my inbox was bulging with for instance 7 ebots from this thread alone :m_think: This is insane. I wouldn't dare going on holiday anymore. My inbox would reach its limit for sure.

PLEASE MAKE FIXING THE EBOTS A TOP PRIORITY!

I don't dislike it. I'm not too bothered by the changes to the front end. If the coding makes things easier for the mods/admins I'm for it.

I absolutely HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!

Attached Link: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1034

"*Almost every other that I regular (CGTalk, Randi, mine, Daz3D to name a few) uses php-style forums just like this...*" That doesn't mean it's better. It just means it's more popular. Like Countach, I avoid those forums because of the distractions. What's "php," anyway? As for other forums, here's my favorite: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1034 It's a huge place with many thousands of users, yet it's fast, very fast. Even threads with multiple hi-res photos load almost instantly (while the photos "paint" in). It's plain, uncluttered, and professional. Navigate around this place a while and you'll see what ease-of-use and speed mean. EEK! The screeshot looks lousy on my end. But if I click on it a new window opens and shows it correctly.

Eww..? Those stars have to go. Sorry. But no. Huge and looking like... well. Lets just not go there. It doesn't look professional. I couldn't give a toss about an avatar or a signature. I want FAST. It took 5 minutes just to load the front page of this excuse of a forum. I absolutely LOATHE the color scheme. Sorry but no thanks. I don't like bright, it hurts my eyes. Quite frankly... I would prefer to have some subforums in here, CLEARLY set apart. I don't know yet if replying to a thread will bump it to the top. If it doesn't then the entire exercise was a waste of space. I want a subforum where useful posts can be STICKIED. If stuff is stickied without a subforum, soon you have to go to page 16 to get at the new posts. God... when they said new forums, I was expecting new forums. This is slow as a dog, diabolical to look at, and by the looks of it, no more functionality than the old forums. The only thing that was added was avatars and smilies. 38 seconds to go from the main forum list into the Poser forum - and that's after I hit the BACK button! It had already loaded it once, it should be faster the second time I hit the link... It begs the question: "What the HELL?" Sure this is in the "Teething stage" but no professional outfit I know wallops in a change like this without TESTING IT FIRST and getting FEEDBACK from users BEFORE GOING LIVE. Geebus...

Silke

Ok I just reloaded the thread page to see if replies bump a post to the top. It doesn't. Get rid of this forum it's a piece of crap. Sorry to be brutal, but active - meaning replied to - threads SHOULD be at the top. That's BASIC functionality of a forum, especially a busy one, where many people post and threads can roll off the front page in a matter of minutes. That's the single most important thing in a forum - to have the active posts first so a user doesn't have to go through 5 gazillion pages to get to the one they want. It would SPEED THINGS UP for crying out loud and it would dramatically reduce the load on your server. Never mind. I'll be coming in even less now, and only if I really can't find an answer elsewhere.

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Jackson: Thanks for showing that DP-Review forum. That's the gold standard for sure! Loaded in 4 seconds on first try and 2 seconds on second try, on my bad old dialup connection. Faster than running a simple non-web app like Notepad. Rendo before this 'progress' typically took 20 seconds to come up, and totally failed about 30% of the time. Rendo after this 'modernization' now takes 80 seconds to fill in, and fails 80% of the time. Progress indeed.

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Yes, for the most part. Two things I don't like: 1. Crappy search system; 2. No Post Bumping or way to view only new posts. If and when they fix those 2 things, this forum will be great.

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"Jackson: Thanks for showing that DP-Review forum. That's the gold standard for sure! Yep, they are the best I've seen. Fast, streamlined, professional. The whole site is like that. Great search engine, too. "Rendo after this 'modernization' now takes 80 seconds to fill in, and fails 80% of the time. Progress indeed." Of course it's progress, it's newer andmore importantlyit's glitzier! New and glitzy is always better than old and practical. Isn't it?

maybe if the forum is moved from the market place server it will speed up?

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.

Quote - "Fear it was not designed for speed. Check out those already infamous yelow pentagons - each is a UNIQUE graphic (that just look the same) so each loads individually and visibly slowly, and hammers my bandwidth - let alone what it does to the server. [Right-click and View Image one and look at it's URL....]"

i agree with you here. the priorities and execution of this forum just don't add up to speed.. as you mentioned, it appears the "stars" graphic is dynamically built according to each post it's heading. that's nuts! not to mention, each icon is produced at 100 quality.. not that it would save a whole boat load of bandwidth, but 80 quality would be fine.. it's the principle of it... "OMG, they are downloading the CSS on every page! What a hoot! It's like a browser history lesson - (Maybe "How Not To Progress" would be a good title?)"

have you looked at the embedded css? yikes! no wonder they couldn't implement RSS, or any other features from, oh, 1998 and forward.. i truly don't understand why they even bothered to code this trainwreck.. there are probably ten fully capable, fast, well designed, feature rich bulletin boards they could have used.. it's just baffeling!

Hmm it seems a bit faster to me.. and if that's the case, I'm all for it!

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - "Not to be too negative against the 'negativity', but I take it that none of you use other forums? Almost every other that I regular (CGTalk, Randi, mine, Daz3D to name a few) uses php-style forums just like this (except mainly phpBB or vBulletin). So, if you really hate this forum, how do you justify going to any others just like this one??? Seems double-standardish to me. Let the flames roll in. ;)"

I frequent a couple of other forums besides the standard 3D ones, several use phpbb, two use vbulletin, and they don't all look like clones of each other (which is one of the reasons I've read for Renderosity using this forum software). They also have avatars, post bumping, threads that show as read properly, support screen resolutions other than 1024x768, different color schemes, and just about every other feature people have been asking for on this forum, and they're quite a bit faster. 2 of the sites, both using vbulletin have far more members than this site, with one having around 131,996 registered members. So for the programmers that say "We can't do that with this software because it can't handle the massive membersize of the site" or claim they can't implement another feature because of software concerns, I'd suggest looking into another, more widely tested, forum software. Heck, if the Wizards of the Coast website can handle literally hundreds of thousands of members, with minor problems (although I don't think their search function works, oh well, nothings perfect), then there is absolutely no reason that a site like Renderosity, which is for many the "main" Poser site, can't get and use a forum software to handle this site's forum needs quickly and painlessly for both users and programmers.

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If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.

2 of the sites, both using vbulletin have far more members than this site, with one having around 131,996 registered members. Renderosity has around 450,000 members. Just FYI :-)

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Quote - "2 of the sites, both using vbulletin have far more members than this site, with one having around 131,996 registered members. Renderosity has around 450,000 members. Just FYI :-)"

erm no. thats registered accounts and it's quite a bit incorrect. the actual number of users is quite a bit lower once you prune off clone accounts (has been quoted at an average of 3 per active user) and dead accounts (ones that have not been used in six months or more and locked accounts). lets keep things realistic here shall we...

How many of them actually visit on an even weekly basis? I've never seen the tally of "Members Online" on the front page here higher than two thousand something. So to be honest, the actual number of people browsing these forums is probably far less than even 10 thousand at one time.

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If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.

To answer an earlier question, PHP is just a scripting programming language. There is nothing about PHP that makes "PHP"-Forums similar, or like anything in fact. It's that most are based on earlier Open Source coding efforts, i.e. they are mostly all iterations - some small some large - of an earlier work, that's why they look like "PHP-Forums". This Bondware 2.something < 3.0 Forum is clearly based on something like phpBB. While it is probably contractually and legally safe to hide it's original source, it is copyrighted code being used as a base, and it is normal to credit that effort publicly on the site somewhere. That Renderosity doesn't do it, when it itself gets so "high and mighty" about copyright infringements, I find unacceptable. As should many readers here... Another problem, as noted earlier this was not designed to run quickly, but it is clearly 2 to 3 times slower today than it was day 1. Time to give up on it, me thinks.

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Quote - "To answer an earlier question, PHP is just a scripting programming language. There is nothing about PHP that makes "PHP"-Forums similar, or like anything in fact. It's that most are based on earlier Open Source coding efforts, i.e. they are mostly all iterations - some small some large - of an earlier work, that's why they look like "PHP-Forums". This Bondware 2.something < 3.0 Forum is clearly based on something like phpBB. While it is probably contractually and legally safe to hide it's original source, it is copyrighted code being used as a base, and it is normal to credit that effort publicly on the site somewhere. That Renderosity doesn't do it, when it itself gets so "high and mighty" about copyright infringements, I find unacceptable. As should many readers here... Another problem, as noted earlier this was not designed to run quickly, but it is clearly 2 to 3 times slower today than it was day 1. Time to give up on it, me thinks. "

FYI: Don't talk about things you don't know anything about. These forums were written from the ground up without the use of even so much as one line of code from another forum such as phpBB. How do I know? Because I've spend 150 hours writing it so far. I know there are problems and we are working on them. I know speed is an issue and we are fixing that. If it's a color choice, I didn't do it. The site design team did. If it's a coding issue, you can guarantee I've already heard about it and we're doing our best to make everyone happy. Keep in mind that each thing someone has asked for, there has inevitably been someone else pleading with us NOT to do it. So sometimes we have to make hard decisions. Things will get better. I promise. And eventually, it'll grow on ya.

-Nicholas

These forums were written from the ground up without the use of even so much as one line of code from another forum such as phpBB. i figured as much; you guys know about copyright and giving credit. people say the dumbest things sometimes. i am curious as to why you wrote it from scratch though, since there are some excellent open-source boards around.

If people don't like smilies, avatars & message status icons they can always filter them out.

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Quote - " So, if you really hate this forum, how do you justify going to any others just like this one??? Seems double-standardish to me. Let the flames roll in. ;)"

At least they work right where this one sure doesn't.

Quote - "These forums were written from the ground up without the use of even so much as one line of code from another forum such as phpBB. i figured as much; you guys know about copyright and giving credit. people say the dumbest things sometimes. i am curious as to why you wrote it from scratch though, since there are some excellent open-source boards around."

They wrote it from scratch because most of the decent OS boards out there are GPL'd, meaning they couldn't sell the software, which is what Bondware does -- they sell software and hosting services. Since they charge for the software, hosting, and the service, they are not interested in giving away anything, which the GPL would require. Renderosity is the beta testing pit for them. Has been forever, which is something a lot of people forget. You are the unwitting testers for a software product that is sold off to others who have no clue. Pretty sucky, huh?

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FYI: Don't talk about things you don't know anything about. These forums were written from the ground up without the use of even so much as one line of code from another forum such as phpBB. How do I know? Because I've spend 150 hours writing it so far. I can only commiserate with you, cause I know how difficult that was, but why hadn't you checked what the other boards offered? Why the sort-by-last-answer option is not written into the preferences? Or even made permanent? Or why the e-bots don't have the actual post anchor in them? Or why the smilies are not on the page with the reply textarea and clickable? Or why the reply form has to be on the same page with the rest of the thread? Or why the old posts don't use the thread title instead of the first line? Or why there are no formatting commands to use? Or those to insert links into the body of the post? Or why there's no actual quote tag instead of the DIVs? The current situation looks like an awkward mix of the old ez forum and a php forum. BTW, when I click on Post Reply, the reply gets posted, but the page is never loaded back into my browser. It just keeps on hanging there, like the server didn't send the refresh command or something. Opera 8.53, the latest one. And yes, it works properly on every other forum I visit. PS. Interestingly, this post went through without a hitch.

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#1 - Avatars Avatars are a bad thing. They increase the load time, they take up so much space that in order to read the actual messages I have to scroll far enough to the side that I can't even see the avatars anyway, and therefore have no idea who is saying what. And if I increase my screen resolution, I can't read the text because it's so freaking small to begin with. Totally useless, IMO. #2 - Smilies Like we need these. Especially the huge ones. Yeah, right. I have always disliked smilies. Especially animated smilies. Most especially HUGE animated smilies. PUH-LEESE. Could we possibly lose these juvenile toys? #3 - overall Layout, etc. I hate it. I hate ALL php based forums. YUCK!! But I hate this one most of all BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!! Of course, I know y'all will not go back to what DID work. You never do. Therefore, I'm pretty sure Renderosity is soon going to be one of those sites that gets removed from my bookmarks list. Or at the most, moved to my "Bookmarks, Archive" folder so that it will be there if I need to re-download past purchases, which, frankly, at the rate y'all are going is going to be the only useful thing about the site. Kate, the Disgruntled and Close to Fed Up

Quote - As for other forums, here's my favorite: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1034 It's a huge place with many thousands of users, yet it's fast, very fast. Even threads with multiple hi-res photos load almost instantly (while the photos "paint" in). It's plain, uncluttered, and professional. Navigate around this place a while and you'll see what ease-of-use and speed mean."

What you must remember about DPreview is that those images aren't hosted on Phil's site; they're links to external personal domains or photo hosting sites such as PBase and Flikr. I personally believe this is the direction Rendo should have gone. Hosting a million images is ridiculous bordering on foolish, and, as Rendo themselves have discovered, extremely taxing, as they trimmed back the three per day policy to a one per day policy of uploading images...unless you pay $ for the extra uploading permission. Phil's web site is one if the ten most popular web sites on the Internet as well as one of the busiest, and I'll have to agree the site is very fast to load. It is by far my favorite place to hang. The only negative I and others have about DPreiew is that you cannot edit your posts. While that is a minor inconvenience it would be nice to be able to do that. Those members who belong to DPreview also belong to other photography web sites that are php boards and the feeling of most is that they don't particularly care for php boards because they all look the same. Adding avatars and smilies are cute I suppose, but they're not in high demand at Phil's site. Different caliber of users, I suspect. Not in the intellectual sense...it's just not an artsie-cutsie site. And I've never seen the words 'Love and Hugzzzzz!' and 'Byeeeee!' used there, either. I've usually enjoyed Rendo, but it has always reminded me of a chick flick. Oh, and of course, it has thread bumping. And it ALSO accommodates the user's screen size as do most other php forums do, unlike these new forums here. I still cannot understand why the hell 1024x768 was chosen as a maximum. 1280x1024 is rapidly becoming the standard. Whoever is making decisions about this web site has his head tucked firmly up a '90s butt.

Forum: Community Center

Subject: Anybody like the new forum?

PLEASE MAKE FIXING THE EBOTS A TOP PRIORITY!