SO, I'm not complaining really but... I get avatars I get smileys I get compressed threads I lose ease of navigation to stuff like "my gallery" I lose color and layout control I lose thread navigation I lose a LOT on general useability I temporarily lose some link function I lose consistancy across the site hmmmm...I'd trade EVERYTHING in the get column for color control. I'll freely admit I didn't read any of the pre-change threads where the advantages of this change were probably mentioned and I am sure this will all get worked out and be just fine eventually but at the moment...I gotta call it a lose lose. If this were a new relase of a software product "upgrade" to a loyal customer base the provider would get butchered. Maybe I am too close to the issue being in software and working directly with customers to represent their needs, but they would absolutely KILL me for something like this...and they actually LIKE me. So far from this end it looks like..."Let's put in PHP then scramble to get them back the functionality we took away." I feel very much like I've been given some shiny new toys to mask the fact that some of the regular tools I use have been taken away or tucked into well hidden corners. I haven't seen anyone overly excited about the change so it seems to me a roll back would generate more customer satisfaction than the work arounds now being bandied about. Given that that will probably NOT happen... Can someone please remind me why this change to PHP is a good thing?