Forum: Community Center


Subject: I killed a thread ...

Phantast opened this issue on Apr 11, 2006 · 69 posts


Phantast posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:13 AM

I posted a reply to a thread in the Poser Forum; just a paragraph of text, and what happened was all replies to the OP (including mine) disappeared, and the following message appeared above the thread:

mysql error: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '== 'active' ORDER BY post_date LIMIT 0,29' at line 4, occured in query: "SELECT t.*, m.username, m.date_first_logon AS joined, m.location AS user_location, m.avatar_url AS avatar, u.posts AS user_posts, u.last_post AS user_last_post, u.signature AS user_signature FROM forumpro_message t LEFT OUTER JOIN member m ON t.user_id=m.userid LEFT OUTER JOIN forumpro_user u ON t.user_id=u.user_id WHERE t.thread_id='2642018' AND t.status == 'active' ORDER BY post_date LIMIT 0,29;".


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:16 AM

Uh-oh

 

Looks like all replies have been hosed.

I doubt it was anything you did Phantast

 

Tom

 

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:22 AM

 

WTF  :scared:

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:23 AM

Sorry guys. Things got caught in the middle of an upgrade to fix some fixes and add some features. It's workin. now. 😄

-Nicholas


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:23 AM

Hmm..it's back now.

 

Kooky Ma-jooky

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:24 AM

 

Hey, did you fix the cache problem with the star graphics?

 

Len.

(PLEASE say yes)

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:25 AM

C'mon..level with us.

We know it's because Stacy was adding her new avatar.

The system simply had to stop and drool.

 

8 )

 

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:28 AM

Quote - "  

Hey, did you fix the cache problem with the star graphics?

 

Len.

(PLEASE say yes)

"

Yes I did. AND search by username is back. We're bit by bit getting rid of the quirks.

:b_grin:

-Nicholas


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:29 AM

 

Wohooooooooooo!

I'd offer you all a free beer but I'm skint - so there  :tt2:

 

Len.

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:30 AM

E-bot takes me directly to post now also.

Nice

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:35 AM

Testing format options

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:38 AM

BTW, you have a NEW problem.

Spacing between message lines is too big!

 

Go for it Nicholas, while you're on a roll  :biggrin:

Len.

 

 

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:39 AM

Testing carraige return Testing carraige return Testing carraige return Testing carraige return

Testing carraige return

Testing carraige return

Testing carraige return

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:40 AM

X-posted with you pumeco

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:42 AM

 

LOL

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:51 AM

It's seems to be significantly faster for me as well.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:05 AM

How's this?

Does this work? 😄

-Nicholas


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:20 AM

Test

Test

Test

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:21 AM

 

...nope!

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


CrazyDawg posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:22 AM

williamsn
That be fine by me. a little space wont kill anyone. great job hope you solve the other minor problems.

Like turning the heating up, its so cold here. 😉

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:32 AM

BTW - please feel free to visit the free eye test incorporating the latest R'osity technology  :biggrin:

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2642722

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


TrekkieGrrrl posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:51 AM

GUYS!!!!

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR TEXT COLOUR AT THE DEFAULT!

By changing it to black....

well you're becoming invisible to all of us who finally got rid of the white background.....

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Bobasaur posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:23 PM

Confusion sets in... Is there text formatting somewhere around here (other than simply using html tags)? I don't see it near this reply box...

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williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:28 PM

Quote - Confusion sets in... Is there text formatting somewhere around here (other than simply using html tags)? I don't see it near this reply box...

No, the forums now have an HTML editor. You do not need to know or use HTML. Just type in the text and format it as you wish with the buttons at the top of the reply box and you're on your way.

-Nicholas


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:31 PM

Perhaps your toolbar is collapsed.

When you reply, click the little down-pointing arrow to reveal the text formatting options.(Directly under the word "Body")

I hope this is what you meant.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:32 PM

 

Nicholas - just thought I'd point-out itallics is not working.

 

TESTING LEFT JUSTIFY

TESTING CENTER JUSTIFY

TESTING RIGHT JUSTIFY

TESTING BOLD

TESTING ITALLICS

TESTING UNDERLINE

TESTING BOLD ITALLICS UNDERLINE

TESTING COLOUR TEXT

TESTING COLOUR TEXT BOLD ITALLICS UNDERLINE BACKGROUND

 

Len.

 

 

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:34 PM

TESTING ITALLICS

lower case italics

 

Edit:: Not working here either.

IE latest version

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:37 PM

 

Hawk, how did you get rid of the line-gap on your previous post ?

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:40 PM

Testing italics.

EDIT: That's odd. worked fine for me.

-Nicholas


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:42 PM

 

Hey, that's not fair :huh:

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:42 PM

I usually type my posts in Outlook for spell checking reasons,then copy and paste them into the forum reply field.

On that particular post,I went back and edited the".(Directly under the word "Body") part of the text.

BUT..I notice Bobs warpped correctly also.

I think that if your text exceeds the reply body,it wraps correctly,but if you hit "Enter" it spaces twice.

I did not copy/paste this reply for test perposes so ignore any mispellings.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:43 PM

 

BTW, I'm on IE6

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:44 PM

E-bot recognizing my preferences.

I was taken to post on second page.

Great work.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:45 PM

 

Cheers Hawk - that's gotta be a pain.

Hope Nick's onto it :biggrin:

 

Len.

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


CrazyDawg posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:46 PM

testin italics..ok looks the same to me, then again it is 3am in the morning.

On about e-bots, why is it now when i get them there is a large cap inbetween each line of text..never use to be like this.

Just so you know what i mean here is a copy of one i just received

 Someone has replied to "I killed a thread ..." on Renderosity MarketPlace!
 
 
 
 
 This is a notification that hawkfyr has replied to the thread "I killed a thread ..." in the Community Center forum. Click <a href="

 

removed the links 😄

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Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:50 PM

Okay..do you see my last post? (about prefences?)

That was typed in Outlook first,then paseted here.

I got single spacing even with hitting enter(In Outlook)

But the post before that I didn't (I just used the text reply editor here) notice how my long,first sentence dropped properly?(The words "reply field.").It's my guess that hitting "Enter" is what is double spacing.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:54 PM

I suppose the long title is truncated.

 

My e-bot looks like this

"This is a notification that CrazyDawg has replied to the thread "I killed a thread ..." in the Community Center forum. Click here to view this message or here to visit the forum.

You can edit your options here.

I'm using Outloot Express, latest verson.

It's probably a mail setting on our end.

Tom

Edited to remove links

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 1:56 PM

 

I hear ya hawk - it's still bloody annoying though :cursing:

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:02 PM

 

TESTING ITALLICS USING THE STYLE DROPDOWN OPTION

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:03 PM

"Cheers Hawk - that's gotta be a pain."

 

What's gotta be a pain?

 Do you mean typing everything in Outlook first?

 

If so...no,it's not really a pain. I have dual monitors and Outlook open in one and my browser in the other.

 

It's great for spell checking first and also gives me a copy of my posts in case the server times out while I'm typing.

Usually,when I'm ready,I re-fresh my browser and paste it.

 

I got into the habit when I was Admin over at 3DCommune.

It didn't look good for the staff to be making tons of spelling errors...lol

 

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


pumecobann posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:08 PM

 

LOL -Lucky you.

I'm on a single 4:3 17"

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Bobasaur posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:09 PM

I don't have an arrow. FWIW I'm on a Mac using Safari 2.0.3.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/


Bobasaur posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:12 PM

I like that the ebot gives the thread subject in it's subject line. I can go through my downloaded email and quickly kill off the notifications of repeated posts in a single thread and only click on the latest one. With the old system I would have had to open each email before deleting it. I'm saving time now.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:15 PM

That is strange Bob.

 

BTW Nick..the e-bots are not taking me to the post any longer.

Just to the first post in the thread.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


Casette posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 2:56 PM

FUNNY


CASETTE
=======
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williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 3:15 PM

Quote - I don't have an arrow. FWIW I'm on a Mac using Safari 2.0.3.

The HTML Editor does not work on Safari. I, too, use Safari and am disappointed by that fact. However, we officially only support the following browsers: Firefox, IE, Netscape, Mozzila. Many in the browser community have complained to Apple that it needs to take Safari back into Beta mode. It simply needs to be re-written because it doesn't support anything compared to mainstream browsers.

Most Javascript-based inbrowser HTML / WSYWIG editors don't support Safari. In fact, as far as I know, none of them do. If you want to use the HTML editor, you will have to use Firefox or Netscape on your Mac.

Sorry for the bad news.

Nicholas

:sad:

-Nicholas


Bobasaur posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 3:44 PM

Wow. I just checked it out in Firefox. There's definately a difference....

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modus0 posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 3:49 PM

I'm sometime not seeing anything but blank space underneath

Reply
Body: [smilies]

If I refresh evertything shows up, but sometimes there's nothing there, no formatting section, no text box, nothing selectable.

And this is with Firefox, I don't feel like trying it with IE6.

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williamsn posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 3:50 PM

What version of Firefox are you using? 1.5, right?

-Nicholas


Bobasaur posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 4:21 PM

I used 1.5. It's not my regular browser though.

Before they made me they broke the mold!
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kflach/


modus0 posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 5:43 PM

Quote - What version of Firefox are you using? 1.5, right?

I wasn't, but I am now and it's still happening.

________________________________________________________________

If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.


modus0 posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 6:11 PM

Hmm, seems to have stopped, although I notice there's no option to edit my posts, is that a glitch or a feature "removed temporarily" for "modification"?

Edit Okay, I can edit this one, but not my others. 😕

________________________________________________________________

If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.


StaceyG posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 6:15 PM

Hi modus,

 

The edit and delete post option is only available for a 15 minute window.

 

 

Thanks


modus0 posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 6:20 PM

Ah, any particular reason (curiousity, nothing more)?

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If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.


Hawkfyr posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 6:22 PM

I would imagine it's to give enough time to correct errors but make so you can not go back days,weeks,years,later and change what you said.

Tom

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”


svdl posted Tue, 11 April 2006 at 8:26 PM

Testing italics
Line gaps: use .

It's a nice little editor. The only thing I really miss is tabs, then it would have been perfect for code too.

It is a definite improvement over the previous edit box. Thanks Nicholas!

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ynsaen posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 1:46 AM

Quote - GUYS!!!!

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR TEXT COLOUR AT THE DEFAULT!

By changing it to black....

well you're becoming invisible to all of us who finally got rid of the white background.....

Them's the breaks when ya give people that sort of flexibility. Since there's no way for people to know what color others are using, there will be those times when you simply will never see the posting becuase the text conflicts with your settings.

The same issues arose int he old store format, as well, with merchants using black text on a white background that would suddenly vanish on a screen with such.

Gets even harder for those of us who had things like a really really dark green background, for instance...

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Erlik posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 2:13 AM

Let me chime in with some complaints.

What the hell are you using for the HTML editor? I don't see anything in Opera 8.53. There's nothing in the source about an arrow beside Body. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. Or you're breaking something with those layers in Javascript? (I don't know Javascript.)

And, basically, you're supporting two browsers: IE and Mozilla. Netscape has IE and Mozilla engines. I'm not switching to either of the above. Plus IE 6 is abysmally slow on the site.

-- erlik


ynsaen posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 3:40 AM

Williamsn is correct -- the html editors out there that Renderosity can use for commercial purposes all essentially rely on built in capabilities of the browsers themselves, typically via javascript.

Opera, Safari, and most other browsers outside of the Mozilla/IE grouping simply have no ability to support these editors. Nor are they likely to.

Incidentally, wait until IE7, which already has several fixes for well known CSS/HTML issues that IE6- was buggy as all get out about. And adds support for more stuff, which, incidentally, will require changes to all the CSS pages already being used.

That's hitting the internet in full this fall (about, oh, 6 months from now). Right about the same time that use of the tag in any webpage gets ugly...

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


Erlik posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 4:53 AM

Quote - Williamsn is correct -- the html editors out there that Renderosity can use for commercial purposes all essentially rely on built in capabilities of the browsers themselves, typically via javascript.

Opera, Safari, and most other browsers outside of the Mozilla/IE grouping simply have no ability to support these editors. Nor are they likely to.

That's simply not true. If Opera works with DAZ on phpBB and their editor, and works with CG Talk on vBulletin and their editor, then the problem is not in Opera but in Renderosity code. Incidentally, CG Talk uses the same "function MM_findObj" call (from Dreamweaver, IINW) as Renderosity. The difference is they use version 4.01, and Renderosity uses version 3.0.

And testing a site of this complexity on TWO browsers is lame, completely lame. Especially so because anything works in Explorer.

If you're wondering what am I talking about, Firefox is Mozilla, and Netscape uses Mozilla and Explorer engines. Two engines - two browsers.

Quote - Incidentally, wait until IE7, which already has several fixes for well known CSS/HTML issues that IE6- was buggy as all get out about. And adds support for more stuff, which, incidentally, will require changes to all the CSS pages already being used.

That's hitting the internet in full this fall (about, oh, 6 months from now). Right about the same time that use of the tag in any webpage gets ugly...

This fall? You wish. :biggrin: They are constantly pushing the release dates.

Okay, IE7 may have fixed lots of bugs present in previous versions, but it introduced new ones and hasn't fixed some of the old ones, like the DIV backgrounds.

Incidentally, this site is completely... no I won't say it. I just opened this forum in Explorer 7, saw some browser sniffing and was rejected. Explorer 7 doesn't have the editor, either.

Hell and damnation. Please, remove browser sniffing and leave browsers to do what they can do. We don't need such lame tricks.

-- erlik


ynsaen posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 5:13 AM

phpbb and vbulletin don't use this style of editor -- they use a custom implementation that essentially exists in order to allow for the functionality i as many browsers as possible.

And it simply is true.  Note that I said: "... that Renderosity can use for commercial purposes..".  That, all by itself, changes a lot of things.

I'm aware of the methodology.  As for lame, I disagree.  By doing so, they cover in excess of 90% of the effective population.  That's wise use of available resources. Perhaps Opera would gain more ground by changing their implentation...

Like I said -- wait for it, lol.  IE7 is going to pretty much require recoding almost every site. And doesn't Rosity just look so awesome in IE7?  I mean, wow -- who knew it could be so totally wrecked.

Wait for the results of the Eolas case to kick in, too.  No more "object" tags...

It'll hit this winter, specifically (with Vista), and if it doesn't, MS is gonna take a hit in the markets, so peeps are gonna be working their butts off to get out.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


svdl posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 5:54 AM

MM_findObj: - that tells me someone has been using Dreamweaver to generate script. Yikes. When it comes to generating unreadable, unmaintainable and unintelligible code, you can't get any better than Dreamweaver.

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Erlik posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 6:27 AM

Quote - phpbb and vbulletin don't use this style of editor -- they use a custom implementation that essentially exists in order to allow for the functionality i as many browsers as possible.

Don't seem so at CG TAlk, but, anyway, where's the problem with that? Why Renderosity cannot do that? Why do they have to use browser sniffing?

Quote - I'm aware of the methodology. As for lame, I disagree. By doing so, they cover in excess of 90% of the effective population. That's wise use of available resources. Perhaps Opera would gain more ground by changing their implentation...

When they test in Netscape, which covers 0.5% of the market in March (even less than IE 7), I wouldn't say it's a wise use of resources. And remember, they want to sell this. Will their potential clients tell their clients that they have to switch browsers?

Quote - Like I said -- wait for it, lol. IE7 is going to pretty much require recoding almost every site. And doesn't Rosity just look so awesome in IE7? I mean, wow -- who knew it could be so totally wrecked.

Since the site doesn't work in Opera or IE 7, why not fix it now instead of waiting for the axe to fall?

-- erlik


Erlik posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 8:23 AM

Just came home and opened the site in IE6.

What they do is serve stuff according to the results of browser sniffing.

And then have an iframe for the editor.

What's problematic with iframes and Opera or Safari? In Opera, there were some problems with JS iframes, but that was sloved two versions ago.

Or it may be that they have problems with all those display: none fields? I'd have to check more thoroughly to see about that.

Besides, the editor itself is a piece of GPL code. More precisely, under the Lesser GPL, which says that you mustn't charge for it. IOW, they cannot sell it.

-- erlik


ynsaen posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 9:03 AM

Closed Distribution License - CDL (Download PDF)

This license offers a very flexible way to integrate FCKeditor in your commercial application. One year of e-mail support is also included.

The CDL is base on the LGPL license with the following addedums:
 

  • The license is valid for a single product;
  • There is no need to distribute the LGPL license with your product and no reference to it have to be done;
  • No references to FCKeditor have to be done in any file distributed with your product;
  • The source code of FCKeditor doesn’t have to be distributed along with your product;
  • You can remove any file from FCKeditor when integrating it with the Product.

 
All other terms of the LGPL license remain valid.

makes a heck of a difference....

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


williamsn posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 11:13 AM

Erlik,

What browser are you using?

-Nicholas


ynsaen posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 11:43 AM

Quote - Let me chime in with some complaints.

What the hell are you using for the HTML editor? I don't see anything in Opera 8.53. There's nothing in the source about an arrow beside Body. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. Or you're breaking something with those layers in Javascript? (I don't know Javascript.)

And, basically, you're supporting two browsers: IE and Mozilla. Netscape has IE and Mozilla engines. I'm not switching to either of the above. Plus IE 6 is abysmally slow on the site.

courtesy of the evil twin...

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


Erlik posted Wed, 12 April 2006 at 11:55 AM

Quote - courtesy of the evil twin...

I'm perfectly capable of being my own evil twin, thank you. :biggrin: Yeah, Opera. 8.53 here, and the latest one, 8.54, installed today at work. No change.

-- erlik


dphoadley posted Sun, 16 April 2006 at 10:43 PM

I'm the kind of guy who likes to justify both margins at the same time, so that they come out even like a newspaper column.  Can you program that option in too?  It would be a nice extra feature.
David P. Hoadley

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