Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Too few Poser Forums? (and why I think so...)

diolma opened this issue on Apr 17, 2006 · 14 posts


diolma posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 4:23 PM

I'm beginning to think there ought to be a 4th Poser forum here.
At present we have:

Poser Tech (Scary! - all to do with Poser very technical stuff).

Poser Python (Even Scarier! Poser Python Programming!).

and

Poser. To cover the rest of it. Which seems to include:

Poser Basics ("I just got poser...");
Poser "how do I"s;
Poser "look at the method I've just found"
Poser "WIP, C & C needed" (rare, but still there);

Poser "this is for sale";
Poser "Coming to freebies";
Poser "Who is this";
Poser rants/controversy;
Poser "usage seen in" (this/that film/book-cover/ etc..)
Poser OT.............................
etc.

That 3rd forum (the main one) seems to be getting in danger of getting so bogged down in what is sometimes trivia that I'd like to see a new Poser section, which only includes the top four sections above, IE the ones that cover using Poser and excludes ancilliary Poser stuff.

That's the area of the Poser forum I'm interested in. Of course, I might be in a minority of 1.
I know Poser fairly well (not brilliantly, but..)...
I often have questions and they often get answered and I also like answering questions on "how-to's" if I know the answer.
But I'd prefer not to have to open (often ambiguously titled) threads, just to find that it's a plug for some product/add-on/ego-post.

Anyone agree?

Cheers,
Diolma



Phantast posted Mon, 17 April 2006 at 5:49 PM

Personally I think ONE Poser forum would be enough. It's the best way to keep the community together.


Casette posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 1:55 AM

Agree with Phantast. All those Poser forums are ridiculous for me. A lot of times people drop the same message in all them. Useless. Join all in one


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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"


Dizzi posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 3:46 AM

NO, not just one Poser forum, just throw them all together. There's no Poser community, only the 3d art community... Really, I'm thinking about not pointing anyone to this forum anymore, because the number of questions about Poser compared to the number of other threads is going more and more down.



Casette posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 4:03 AM

Dizzi, not agree. If anyone has only Bryce, why he might surf across thousands of Poser messages? Each 'big' software has its forum, and it seems ok for me

But the same as I consideer ridiculous hundred forums about Photoshop (Photoshop begginers, Photoshop technics, Photoshop brushes, Photoshop filters, Photoshop plugins, etc etc etc), I consideer ridiculous so many Poser forums. One is perfect

A single 3D art forum? Too much generic, so a chaos, so useless


CASETTE
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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"


svdl posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 4:30 AM

I don't see the need for another Poser related forum. Poser Technical and Poser Python scripting are sort of 'special interest groups', most users would consider it scary tech talk - let's keep those nerds out of the 'civilized' Poser forum. (ahem, I'm one of the nerds...).

I have no trouble finding the threads that interest me in the main forum. The only reason I can imagine for splitting up the main forum would be performance - if the sheer size of the forum is too much of a load on the servers, it might help to split it up. Right now it is slower than most other forums, but not to the point that it's unusable.

So it can stay as it is, as far as I'm concerned.

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diolma posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 2:46 PM

Okey-doke.
I was just testing the waters. I'm obviously outnumbered... 😄

Cheers,
Diolma



Tunesy posted Tue, 18 April 2006 at 7:24 PM

...I feel obliged to throw in a word of support for diolma ;)  Too much 'freebie this-and-that' and 'the latest daz tripe' in the main forum to my taste, but, heck, maybe that's what people want.


diolma posted Wed, 19 April 2006 at 5:00 PM

Thx for the support, Tunesy:-)

Yup, that's the way I feel, loads of "Hey! Lookit This!" and not enough "Can you please help me" or "I've just discovered how to..." and you have to sift the wheat from the chaff to find the needles in the haystack. (Diolma has just joined the "Mixed Metaphore" forum...)

But we are still outnumbered.

Oh, well. That's what democracy is all about..
Cheers,
Diolma

PS. A definition of Democracy I read/heard somewhere, sometime: "You can't fool all the people all of  the time, but you can fool enough of the people for enough of the time."



Dizzi posted Wed, 19 April 2006 at 5:07 PM

Well, actually my post was meant to support you, too, Diolma... ;-)



pleonastic posted Wed, 19 April 2006 at 5:23 PM

i tend to like more finely grained groups on usenet, but usenet is easy to read compared to these types of forums. i think i wouldn't mind a separate forum along the lines you gave, diolma, but i don't feel strongly enough about it to push for it, especially since there's a fairly strong community feeling here, and such groups tend to resist subdivision because they are afraid they'll lose what they have (and they might). what i would really like though is a dedicated archival forum for tutorials and other detailed "how-to" articles, to which mods would copy all relevant postings.


diolma posted Wed, 19 April 2006 at 6:10 PM

Ooops, sorry Dizzi.  - I missed that interpretation:-((
But thanks in arrears:-))

pleonastic:
I totally agree. The only problem I have with your archival approach (and it could well work), is that I suspect it would probably put too much extra work onto an already over-extended set of mods. Can always hope, tho..

I'm not going to push either. I only started this thread in order to put a toe into the water, to see how many had the same feeling.

Just to clarify (I've just re-read my initial post, and it's not too clear), what I'm suggesting is a Poser forum dedicated to ONLY:

Poser Basics ("I just got poser...");
Poser "how do I"s;
Poser "look at the method I've just found"
Poser "WIP, C & C needed" (rare, but still there);

IE. How to USE Poser. Not:  "where can I find such-and -such", "Poser used in XYZ", "Who does this look like?", "What is the copyright situation on...", "Where can I find textures for...", "Who is the best character..." ... the list goes on (and on....)

I just want a forum dedicated to USING Poser, what works, what doesn't, how to achieve effects. A forum that allows me to both learn and advise (if I know the answer).

But I suspect I won't get it.
That's life....

Cheers,
Diolma



Miss Nancy posted Wed, 19 April 2006 at 6:16 PM

did somebody mention the usenet? legume created alt.binaries.3d.poser back in 98 or 99. it's somewhat more anarchic than this forum, but worth investigating. the only rule there is that there are no rules IIRC.



Phantast posted Thu, 20 April 2006 at 2:43 AM

It depends on volume of traffic. On another site I frequent,  there is relatively little forum traffic and indeed, all 3d art software is treated in the same forum. That wouldn't be manageable here because the combined volume of the Poser, Bryce, Rhino etc forums would be too great. But the volume on the Poser forum as it is, is about right.