Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: BUY HEXAGON 2 FOR $1.99!!!

paulbrittgarcia opened this issue on Apr 27, 2006 · 100 posts


paulbrittgarcia posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 10:04 PM

Platinum Club Members  Price: $1.99

Not a member ---> Join for $29.95 ( and $7.95 per month) and buy it for $1.99!

Get 3D Models, 3D Content, and 3D Software at DAZ3D!


Byrdie posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 10:59 PM Online Now!

Holy mackerel! I thought it was a joke. Or a mistake. But nope, Daz really means it!!!

:rushes off to put it in my cart: Now all I gotta do is figure out what to do with it. :-)


dlfurman posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 11:17 PM

Wow!

Who saw that coming?

 

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Byrdie posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 11:20 PM Online Now!

Surely not me! The most I was expecting was about the same as Bryce 5.5. This is too good to pass up!


Helgard posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 11:24 PM

Sorry, I am not a platinum club member, and when I click on that link I get the front page of DAZ. I pre-ordered Hexagon 2, and I would like to know what is going on. Can someone paste the official news for people who are not platinum club members?

 


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jt411 posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 11:46 PM

All I have to say is W...T...F?
Of course I just bought it, but...huh?
A lot of people are going to be happy and a lot of people aren't!


Byrdie posted Thu, 27 April 2006 at 11:49 PM Online Now!

This one oughta take you to the announcement thread w/all the relevant details. :-)

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=35961&highlight=


Helgard posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:04 AM

Ok, I am glad for all the people buying Hexagon 2 for $2, and for once I cannot say anything bad about DAZ, lol.

I am a little bit miffed at the Eovia staff who must have known when I bought Hexagon 2 for $298 three weeks ago that they were selling the company. (Just so that you know, the price from Eovia for Hexagon 2 was $298, because they charged non-USA buyers in Euro.)

Let me see. How much have I spent at DAZ since I started with 3D? Nothing.

So I get a membership for $30, a $100 voucher I will never use, and I will get Hexagon 2, maybe with the Golden Pack that I am supposed to get when I pre-ordered it, all this for only $298.

So much for the Eovia staff saying you will make a saving if you pre-order.

 


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butterfly_fish posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:18 AM

w00t! bought it!

There must be something in the DAZ store you can use, isn't there?  Feel free to pass along your voucher if you don't want it.  :-P

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Helgard posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:21 AM

Butterfly, even if I use my voucher and the membership, Hexagon is still costing me $168, that is my point. And there is still no mention as to whether I get the golden pack that I am supposed to get for pre-ordering from Eovia.


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byAnton posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:27 AM

That is a must buy.

Anyone who ever wanted a modeller should run and go get it now. Personally I think waiting for V4 is better but now is good too.

I have no need for another modelelr, but $30-ish isn't much at all.

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kuroyume0161 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:00 AM

I just purchased Carrara Pro ... and you know that it'll be on sale for like $29.95 at DAZ in a couple days or weeks.  And, yes, I is a PC member - wonder if they'll work something out? ;)

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pleonastic posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:02 AM

dear helgard -- why don't you send an email to sales@eovia.com with your order number; from posts in the daz forum i gather that this might be the quickest way to get resolution (as opposed to kvetching in a forum that has nothing whatsoever to do with DAZ or eovia). i am fairly confident they have anticipated this, and since you say you bought hexagon 3 weeks ago, your 30 day money-back guarantee is in place anyway.


Helgard posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:15 AM

Pleonastic,

"as opposed to kvetching in a forum that has nothing whatsoever to do with DAZ or eovia"

Thank you for your condesending tone. I have already mailed them and asked for a refund, and bought Hexagon 2 from DAZ, my first purchase ever with DAZ.

Since when am I not allowed to state publicly that I am not happy with a situation? This thread actually had something to do with Hexagon, in case you didn't see the title of the thread. I have since found the thread on DAZ concerning this, and stated my dis-satisfaction there as well.

The fact that I have to find out on Renderosity that something I pre-ordered is available is not good, and if I had been sent an e-mail telling me of this situation I wouldn't have been here in the first place.

Thanks again for your tone. Much appreciated.

Helgard


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pleonastic posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:32 AM

of course you can express your opinion here. but you didn't say "damn, i wish i had gotten an email instead of finding out through rendo that there is a new special deal". you said you were out money and you didn't know what was going on. in 3 separate posts, no less. forgive me for thinking that this is not an efficient method to recover lost monies. so you had actually already found a solution, and yet you were still complaining that you were out money? and you call me condescending? i went especially to DAZ and eovia to find out whether there might not be a way you could recoup that loss, and to let you know how. thanks for wasting my time. don't be a prick.


Helgard posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:43 AM

I have never, in the three years I have been here, been called a prick.

My first post was asking for information. My second just stated my dissatisfaction, and my third just explained that the membership and $100 voucher was really not a good deal, because you still pay $168 more than someone who buys it without pre-ordering, and this was still before I had found out that I could get a refund.

I am not the type of guy that fights in forums, and I was just very unhappy with a situation, and stated this fact. I have heard people get far more upset in this forum over a $5 product than I did over what I thought was a $168 loss, yet your post and attitude have really upset me, and I think I should rather bow out of this thread now, while I am still rational and well-behaved, and go and play with Hexagon instead of being insulted by you.


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Silke posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 3:03 AM

Heh I'd love to try it out, but alas... I can neither afford to join PC just for that, nor do I really want to rejoin.

However, this is the first offer I've seen in almost 2 years that actually makes it worth joining, even if it's just for a month.

I'll think about it. Anyone know how long this offer is on for?

Silke


Syltermermaid posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 3:52 AM

I bought it, but it is nearly impossible to download the file with around 340MB. I have a quite fast connection but it downloaded with 2.5KB, now you know how long it will need until I get the program and also only if it not break always inbetween!!! I'm already now by the thirt download and don't know how far I come this time. Somehow it looks for me like a big con, not a lot people have the connection really to get it. I download normally with a speed of 100KB but now only 2.5KB, I think DAZ should give for $10 the oportunity to burn it on CD!! And the offer is on to the 31th of May!!!!


steveshanks posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:08 AM

Your lucky i normally get about 240kb but i'm getting 69bytes at the moment and its bombed out 3 times already........i guess everyone is getting it LOL........Steve


AntoniaTiger posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:08 AM

Boys, calm down a little. helgard has close on $300 of aggravation here, and I'm pretty startled by this DAZ pricing. What, I wonder, is the catch? This maybe isn't the place for angst and ranting over what's happened. Still, I don't see any reason to throw around personal insults. And, yeah, big download...


LostinSpaceman posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:12 AM

You know folks, just because you BOUGHT it today, doesn't mean it won't be in your account listing for download a month from now when not everyone and their brother are sucking up bandwidth. Just because the sale is over on May 31st doesn't mean you won't be able to download your purchase after that date if you buy it now.


steveshanks posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:16 AM

Oh i know your right Mizrael but i WANT it KNOW...stamping feet :o)........Steve


LostinSpaceman posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:19 AM

Oh alright. I'll wait to download mine next month then and let you use my bandwidth! :m_handshake:


steveshanks posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:30 AM

Thanks :o) :o).......Steve


kuroyume0161 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:30 AM

Um, Mizrael, the "Data Download Expires" is 5/2/2006 (that's five days - nicht eine month!).  I doubt that in even five days, it will be much better.  You wait a month, request relisting for download. :)

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Syltermermaid posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:33 AM

You can have my bandwith too Steve, I can wait in the moment I have anyway no chance to download it!!!LOL


rockets posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:56 AM

If you think it's bad now, just wait an hour or two...most of the U.S. is still asleep, but we're waking up!  Dumb me just had to try and download right now...well I'm at 2% at the moment.  I'll quit trying after it bombs out the first time.

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!


steerpike posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:26 AM

If it's any help, the clickable links can be transferred to a download manager/accelerator. I'm using a combination of Firefox, the Flashgot plugin and Free Download Manager, and I'm getting 40 K/sec. It's slow for broadband, but it's manageable.

edited - Even with an accelerator, it'll need to be a one-shot attempt. Because of site security, I doubt if you'd be able to resume a broken or stopped download.

We'll see.

 


AntoniaTiger posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:52 AM

DAZ doesn't seem to have resume support. I's probably worth waiting a few days. I don't know if the weekend is going to be good or bad. And, yes, I know what it can be like for people on dialup. Some of the current ordinary DAZ downloads are all-night sessions on that. But, even on the slow end of broadband as I am, this is a managable size, once the server overload ends. Good luck, folks.


freyfaxi posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 6:19 AM

dashes off to buy Wow..I knew my PC club membership would come in handy :) I'm not sure just what I'll be able to do witrh hexagon..but at $1.99, I'd be a fool not to grab it while the occassion is here :)


maclean posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 8:06 AM

As an FYI, Dan Farr said last night (in the ArtZone chatroom) that he tried to get Eovia to withdraw or modify the pre-order deals several weeks ago, so he must have already been planning some deal like this. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Eovia didn't want to do that.

mac


martial posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 8:13 AM

Too bad.I paid 99$ us in pre-oreder (i cannot download this  pre-order for now) and now at DAZ at 1,99$.I never understand this crazy market.If Daz litterally give Hex2,where they will find the money for developping the product.Dead end for Hexagone?


wheatpenny posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 8:28 AM Site Admin

No, they're not going to kill it. This $1.99 thing might be only temporary, andwhether it's temporary or permanent,  selling it that cheap will build up a large customer base (a lot of people who wouldn't have bought it before are buying it now because it's so cheap). Then they can make a killing on selling plugins, etc.

If there are no plugins available, no biggie, the hexagon programmers now ork for them, so they can just have them come up with some plugins (like to integraste Hexagon with Bryce and daz Studio)..




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Arturzinho posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 9:19 AM

@ Steveshanks

You can use my bandwidth too :o)


randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 9:41 AM

Wow.  This is a great deal.  I tried the demo of Hexagon, and didn't like it enough to shell out for the full program, but for $1.99, I'm in.

FWIW, there are several threads about this in the Carrara forum.  I gather DAZ has offered to refund pre-orders for those who don't think the package they are offering for those who pre-ordered is enough.


electronicpakrat posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:05 AM

As I've said in the Carrara forum... If you're still bitter/angry about having pre-ordered then process a refund, buy it for less at DAZ and be happy (aside from the on-going stampede of customers causing slow DL speeds)! :lol:


chinnei posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:06 AM

Alright, I give up.  I've been downloading it since 4am this morning but only got to about 10%.  I'll just try later.  You all can have my 5kb/sec bandwidth that I've been using.


mathman posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:16 AM

Is it just me, or are there problems with logging in to DAZ at the moment.

I have put Hexagon in my cart, however it asks me to confirm my login when I click the checkout button. At that point, when I key in my EM address and password I get a message saying that my EMail address/password combination is incorrect. So, I then click the "Forgot Password" button, and then it tells me it can't process this at the moment as DAZ is investigating some security issues.

WTF ?


rreynolds posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:47 AM

Quote - So I get a membership for $30, a $100 voucher I will never use, and I will get Hexagon 2, maybe with the Golden Pack that I am supposed to get when I pre-ordered it, all this for only $298.

I hope this works out okay for you.

That's why I don't like preordering stuff. I hate giving somebody else my money without getting something in return right away. It could be worse--Eovia could have declared bankruptcy and you'd have nothing. At least now, you can get the software you were willing to buy for $298 and get a free $100 voucher that can fully pay for any DAZ originals. It still stinks that others can now get it for $2. If you ordered by credit card, you still have some options to get your money back (though I'm not sure if that Euro thing took that option away from you). In the end, you're not getting the best possible deal, but you're getting the product that you purchased.


pakled posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:53 AM

 I'd consider it myself, if they took cash..;) however, Blender and Wings are still free..;)

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Marque posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 11:25 AM

No no no Steve I'm NOT giving up my bandwidth to you!  lol  Just bought Maya yet I still want to grab this...would be a fool not to at the price. Helgard you mention you have been here three years? Take a look at how long plenastic has been here...consider the source...and ignore him. I can understand why you're upset and having been bitten a few times myself by software that is cheaper after it's been sold I have a lot of empathy for you and don't blame you for venting about it.


Jules53757 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 11:41 AM

I'm feeling warped back 20 years ago, when I purchased a highspeed modem with incredible 2,400 bit/s, an unbeleavable speed in those days but in the year 2006???

The finishing of my download is expected within the next 33 hours and 8 minutes :(


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randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:09 PM

Hopefully DAZ will fix the slow download problem.  They rent extra servers or some such thing when they need to, so they should be able to deal with the traffic.


unzipped posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:37 PM

So I've got a question, possibly the wrong place, but it's somewhat on topic:

Is Hexagon any good for doing morphs?  I was seriously considering picking up ZBrush to do some morph work - how does Hexagon compare in this regard.  Of particular interest is how it handles symmetric work - does it easily allow mirroring of work?  ZBrush seems to have that covered (although I haven't used it myself, so I could be wrong).  Then in general how "user friendly" is it compared to ZBrush?

I should probably just try out a demo I guess.....


randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 12:47 PM

Definitely try the demo.

IME, Hexagon is a lot easier to figure out than XBrush.  But then, IME, differential equations in ancient Sanskrit are easier to figure out than Zbrush.  ;-)  As Elizabyte once said, the ZBrush controls are like the cockpit of an alien spacecraft.  Takes a lot of getting used to.  I found Hexagon fairly intuitive.

But please, try for yourself.  YMMV.  One person's "intuitive" is another's "alien spacecraft."  Especially with 3D software. 


Dynamo posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:13 PM

I should have done that, its sensible but at 2.00 i figgered what the heck hook up up!


steveshanks posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:22 PM

Thanks for the Bandwidth everyone o) i managed to get up to 3k a second for a while there LOL, but i've given up now i think i might set the alarm for 4am, but don't tell anyone or they'll all do it  :o)........Steve


Dynamo posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:25 PM

Yea, Im there with you its gonna be a loooooong time :biggrin:


BAR-CODE posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 1:57 PM

WOW ... 1,99 can you Buy it more then once ? i mean can you buy it for someone else too ?

I can't buy anything online so i can't become a PC member .. so does anybody know's if buying it for someone else is possible ?

Thnx for checking it out or answering

Chris " who is sad about this kind of stuff happening now...

 

 

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steveshanks posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 2:04 PM

You can't BAR-CODE sorry, its part of the PC Rules......Steve


BAR-CODE posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 2:09 PM

Just my luck .....

Now do you wonder why i started to make my own props etc etc ...

I wished i was a millionaire and not so good looking  :}

Chris

 

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randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 2:13 PM

You are not allowed to buy anything for someone else at DAZ.

A couple of suggestions:

Find someone local who can buy things online.  Give them money, and have them buy you a DAZ gift certificate.  (You will need to buy a Platinum Club membership and Hexagon, so it will be more than $2.)  Maybe a friend or a relative?  They don't have to know anything about Poser to buy you a gift certificate.

Become a DAZ broker.  They will pay you in money you can spend in their store. 


bushi posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 3:04 PM

Wow! I lucked out twice. Today is the last day of my PC membership. I decided to drop it because I hadn't been using it for the last 6 months or so. Did have trouble DLing but only took two tries to get it. First try said it would take 1 day and 8 hours but tanked after about an hour. Second try only took about 15 minutes to finish. Seems I'll spend the afternoon trying out the new toy. :-)


diolma posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 3:16 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2645490

WAIT!!!!

Before you all go charging off to DAZ, please read this thread. You may be getting more than you expected...

I'm only trying to give a warning about a virus that DAZ may or may not be infected with. But it doesn't hurt to check out whether the smoke comes from a fire or not...

Cheers,
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Jcleaver posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 3:19 PM

Bar-code,  What you might try is find someone who pre-ordered who is also a PC member and have them transfer the copy they bought from Eovia to you, in turn they could then buy the PC version.  I asked this of Bob Stockwell last night and he said that was fine.

As to someone wanting to own 2 copies, the EULA allows one to install on as many PCs as you want, providing you are the only user.  Also per Bob.



anxcon posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:09 PM

i bought it :P but umm wheres the serial? neither my emails or daz account page show =/


sandman_dreaming posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:16 PM

Have just downloaded Hexagon successfully...after all the tales of horrrendous download times  I was going to wait till early in the morning to start the download (when the USA is asleep!), but couldn't resist trying now. Anyway, took me 1h26m....and the serial number was waiting for me in an email. Looks like DAZ have maybe increased their available bandwidth to take account of the increased demands on their servers.


randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:27 PM

They did.  Someone said they added 10 more servers to the usual 25 to 35.


hemi426 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 4:57 PM

I just downloaded it with 120KB/sec (maximum for my DSL Line)


Larry F posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:07 PM

Anyone besides me having installation issues with Hexagon 2 DL?  I keep getting "Unknown compression error (sic)" starting with files ending in .mov, then "Data/Rewrite failures" and so forth.

 

Have downloaded twice, tried on 3 different PCs, same thing.

Thanks in advance.

 

Larry F

 

PS:  Windows XP home latest, lots of ram, etc.


BAR-CODE posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:11 PM

Mmmm my last post got lost somewhere on the everlasting datafields ..

So ill do it once more: 

Just a Question is it a real full version Hex 2 or a "update" that you need Hex 1 aswell....

Thnx Chris

 

 

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blondbear1 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:12 PM

Yes, I bought it........couldn't afford not to.

Even with a broadband connection, only getting a 3 k connection. I can wait. and if neccesary will request a reset............


randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:15 PM

This is the real, full version.

It is download-only.  If you want a physical copy, you have to wait until "early summer."  And pay a lot more, presumably.


hemi426 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:17 PM

No, it's a full version. I found my key for Hexagon 2.0 on my DAZ account page.
Installation worked fine for me (WinXP Pro SP1A 2GB RAM).


BAR-CODE posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 5:22 PM

Well .................. SOMEBODY just made my day then...

I'm not in the habbit of kissing men but ... i can hugg this men for a week :-}

I'm tottaly stunned by some members of this community, realy i am.....

After i stopped shaking from joy im gonna figure out how to get hex 2  on my PC :}

Chris... 

Damn what a great people do we have on this planet.....

 

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blondbear1 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 6:04 PM

They added more servers..........I just downloaded it in 20 min.


PapaBlueMarlin posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 7:44 PM

Is this software easy to use?  I'm just asking because I've always wanted to create content, but never really had the knack for either modelling or texturing.  Also are there advantages such as better lighting for poser scenes?



Tashar59 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 7:50 PM

Took me 45 min. last night. I must have snuck in somehow. I thought it was slow until I read the times here.

There are some BNers over at Daz that are flaming anyone that spent the hundreds of dollars and say something about it. Now that it's mentioned, they have very short joining times too.

May the fleas of a thousnd camels infest thier armpits.

If you like Wings you would like it. It's better than that more options like splines but That is about as close as I can come to explaining. I thought it was very easy to use. It's worth the UV wrap, texture paiting and displacement brush alone for that price.


BAR-CODE posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 7:52 PM

i don't know papabluemarlin ... i'm gonna check it out tomorrow :}

Yes i got it !  in about 15 min. it was here incl serial..

Its Queensday today here in holland and i just got my gift for this year :-}

 

Now i got to go to sleep 2.49 AM ...

tomorrow im gonna put on my divingsuit and Jump right into hex 2

 

Chris ...  

Sometime is giving recieving ... like today...

 

 

 

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randym77 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 8:51 PM

Hexagon is just a modeller.  If you want nice lighting, you have to shell out for Cararra.


AgentSmith posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 9:12 PM

...another $1.99

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Tashar59 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 9:46 PM

AgentSmith wrote. "...another $1.99"

Woh, and you thought the $1.99 Hex caused a ruckus.


AgentSmith posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 9:55 PM

DAZ will have to rent space/time out on some of Bill Gates' servers, lol.

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Tashar59 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:03 PM

They need to do something. I tried to look in on the store to see if theymay have the Hex golden pac for sale. I want those extra brushes. But I cant seem to get anywhere. Talk about slow.


freyfaxi posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:07 PM

I'm downloading now.....got 44 %..and it says I still have 26 hrs 30 min to go..at al of 147 kb/sec :( And I'm on dsl...guess the extra servers aren't helping me a bit :(


Tashar59 posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:16 PM

I wonder what the bandwidth will be by the end of the weekend.


AgentSmith posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:20 PM

I'm waiting a week or so, myself. I have too much keeping me busy anyway.

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arcady posted Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:58 PM

I ordered the middle of the afternoon today. Maybe 5 or so pm PST. I managed to download it in less than 5-10 minutes. Twice. One PC copy and one MAC copy.

Already burned to CD and installed on both machines.

Won't be using it for another month, but I've got it now, at the $1.99 price (while that lasts), for when I need it.

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kuroyume0161 posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 12:08 AM

I tried earlier without any problems - about an hour doing 89KB/s on average.  According to some over at DAZ's forums, it may depend on which server you get and when.

Don't (or do) say "Carrara 5 Pro for just $1.99 for PC members"!  If they try a stunt like that (or even nearly), I will definitely invoke my 30-day money back guarantee to return about $600+ on my credit card.. ;P

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AgentSmith posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 12:12 AM

Lol...sorry, I'm TOTALLY kidding about Carrara for $1.99. I have NO idea if DAZ if going to offer any kind of special on any of the versions of Carrara.

NOT even a rumor, its was a total joke. (for ANYONE reading this)

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kuroyume0161 posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 12:22 AM

I understood that, but then who would have taken "Hexagon 2.0 for $1.99 to all PC member" as anything but a joke, huh, huh? ;)

BTW: How many avatars do you got there, AS?

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wheatpenny posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 7:22 AM Site Admin

I'm going to wait a couple of weeks before i think about getting Hexagon, because I'm really impatient with slow downloads, so I'd be better off to get it after the rush, when the demands on the bandwidth will be much less.




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Marque posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 8:10 AM

Hummm I keep unchecking the notify me box and it still sends them....


AntoniaTiger posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 8:37 AM

Quote - Hummm I keep unchecking the notify me box and it still sends them....

I'm hoping that posting a message with the notify box cleared will be enough, because it seems an email is set with evety message posted here, which can get annoying.


randym77 posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 8:44 AM

Click "unsubscribe" instead of unchecking the notify box.  IME, using subscribe/unsubscribe works better, and doesn't bump the thread up for no reason.


Jovial posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 2:36 PM

Hi all,

Got my (bargain) Hexagon 2 and tried it.

It seems a little, well, sort-of glitchy.

First I loaded batlabs free lab coat .obj to see if I could muck about with it. It never appeared.

Second loaded a space 1999 eagle (lightwave obj) and all seemed well. It appeared but then things suddenly ground to a halt (including windows media player running in the background) and when things started again, the Hexagon screen no longer updates. Got bored of this and killed it.

A couple more experiences like this and I might begin to regret spending my $1.99.

Any idea what might be problem? In case it is relevent I have a 3.2GHz P4, 3GB RAM, loads of swap and running on XP home sp2. I was wondering if Hegagon is a bit like Wings3D, in that it does not like big models with lots of facets.

Thanks if ya can offer any advice on making things work or even if you know what Hexagon's limitations are.


nruddock posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 2:39 PM

Check your video card drivers are up to date.


BAR-CODE posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 2:45 PM

jovial wrote:

A couple more experiences like this and I might begin to regret spending my $1.99.

Thanks if ya can offer any advice on making things work or even if you know what Hexagon's limitations are.

Good advice cost more than that usualy..... how can you ever regret 1.99 for a full program...

Normaly you can't get a drink in a cafe for 1.99 ...

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Patrick_210 posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 3:19 PM

I find that Hex 2 runs pretty smooth on my machine until I hit 1 to 1.5 million polys.

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danamo posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 3:54 PM

I figure that even if some folks don't get into Hexagon2's modeling and displacement tools, they may still find it handy for the UVunwrapping and texture painting tools. Hexagon2 has a built-in texture engine based on Genetica Pro, I believe. You can turn the model in 3D as you are painting and add textures and bmps across seams that wrap perfectly. You could import your model, texture it, and export it with the new maps without ever touching it with the modeler. Hexagon2 is not a "one-trick pony". The closest app with comparable features would be the upcoming Modo 3.0, but that will cost you several $$$'s!


Jovial posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 4:05 PM

OK, video drivers updated and things seem more stable. Thanks for the advice, nruddock. I should have thought - here was me using completely antiquated December'05 video drivers!

Hiya BARcode, I don't regret spending the $1.99 but I might have if the software were essentially too buggy to be used. I have purchased many software packages that did not live up to expectations (or the advertising). It isn't even the $1.99 that is the problem, but rather the time I put into downloading, installing and learning to use it. Fortunately I got much better results this time and Hexagon 2 does look like a very grown up version of Wings3D (which I like) and - at first glance - it sees to be able to handle bigger meshes than Wing3D. As you rightly point out, $1.99 doesn't usually buy very much and the Daz Hex 2 offer seems to be the bargain of the decade. LOL

Now if I can only figure out what it all does.......


Patrick_210 posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 5:49 PM

Remember also, that the development team is working on version 2.1 with bugfixes and more stability. I'm sure that will be a free update.


kuroyume0161 posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 6:19 PM

There are also some display settings - cannot find the thread (over at CGTalk) - that make a difference with Hex 2.

Twist of fortune.  To anyone who says, "yeah, it's $1.99 but I'll never use it", things happen.  What if circumstances forced you to the lowest denominator software and you had nothing but Hexagon for modeling?  If you had nothing, you'd have to go to Wings3D or such (not that that's bad, but you could have had a full modeling application for $1.99 and passed it up for no good reason).  Just remember not to complain about it if it ever happens.  Stranger occurrences have passed.

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Shardz posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 9:25 PM

As a previous Hexagon v1.21 user,  I have been waiting for the release of v2.0 and checking every day for it to come out. I don't usually pre-order software, and I'm very glad I didn't in this case! I absolutely love the program and find that the interface and functionality is fantastic for a standalone modeling program. Needless to say, I woke up this morning to see Hexagon 2 on sale for $1.99 and about fell on the floor. That's like buying a new car for $100!

Hexagon isn't for everybody as it's a fairly complex suite of tools for modeling, and now offers some fantastic features that can be found in programs like Z-Brush and Deep Paint 3D (both expensive programs). I think it's fair to say that the userbase for Hexagon 2 will be quite large given this promotion and I hope that Daz continues development on the program in the direction it was meant to go.

I found Hexagon v1.21 fairly intuitive at first, although there is a learning curve of about 8 hours to fully understand how the procedures and methods are applied during modeling, but that's not bad at all versus 3DS Max, Maya, or any other complex program. I find it to be very rewarding and have created some very detailed models that I am pleased with given some 'crash and burn' time invested. Not even being a particular fan of Eovia, I came to discover that the development team involved really cared about what they were creating and offered a great and speedy toolset for modeling complex geometry in a short amount of time. For $1.99, the program is literally a steal and it could open new doors to many users who have been wanting to create content in a professional environment.

Given this outbreak of new 'Hexagoners', I'd really like to see a support group here in the forums to share information and ideas regarding this great program. It's a force to be reckoned with and I'm very pleasantly surprised that Daz gave so many the opportunity to use it.  I was preparing to pay much more for it than I did and now I can put all the money I saved into my gas tank instead!

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CRZhorse posted Sat, 29 April 2006 at 10:09 PM

I had no trouble downloading the 334meg in Australia last night USA time. It looks very promising.


mickmca posted Sun, 30 April 2006 at 6:35 AM

Those of you thinking about joining PC to pay $1.99 for Hex 2 might want to check out the Hex bugs threads over at the Carrara forum. Maybe you "can't go wrong" buying a clunky piece of betaware for $1.99 (personally, I'm not into free debugging and wasting my time), and maybe you can afford to spend $30 on a product that may not even install if you already have Hex 1.21 (even if you know how to use regedit!). If so, maybe I can interest you in some nice partially baked cake? It's flippin nummy!

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Patrick_210 posted Sun, 30 April 2006 at 9:55 AM

I think your advice is off base. Hexagon is a great polygonal modeler, very fast and easy to use. The fast extrude feature, dynamic geometry, line tools, surface tools, symmetry modeling, and universal manipulator all work well. The new displacement painting works really well. That alone is well worth the money. In a month  or  two,  they'll have a FREE patch to fix bugs with painting or whatever.  I've used Hex for hours without any problems. It also has an incremental save feature, great for saving at different stages of your model. After the patch, the price goes back up to $250 or so.  Someone who wants to model, displace, and 3D paint could buy it now and wait for the patch. Then they wouldn't have to "waste" time and do any "free debugging" and they would have a great program for almost nothing. Or, they could buy Z-Brush, BodyPaint, and Modo and do the same thing for maybe what? $1,500 or $2,000. Sounds like you're the one with the "partially baked cake".


obm890 posted Sun, 30 April 2006 at 10:30 AM

I had a very frustrating session yesterday, lots of hanging and freezing and error pop-ups, but today it seemed a whole lot smoother, so the world is a sunny place again.

And the tut video commentary is the best part of the whole thing. Did you know a space-cow has corns and a muffle? I didn't until today :)

I'm using ancient Nvidia drivers though (WinXP), I have to because SketchUp hates all new ones. Does anyone know if it's possible to use "driver Rollback" on an ongoing basis? In other words have 2 sets of drivers installed and switch from old to new at will when I switch apps?



Patrick_210 posted Sun, 30 April 2006 at 11:58 AM

I don't know, but Hex definitely needs the latest drivers to work correctly.