Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: What are the benefits of Cararra5 Pro over Carara5?

lululee opened this issue on May 12, 2006 · 19 posts


lululee posted Fri, 12 May 2006 at 10:22 AM

Can anyone tell me What are the benefits of Cararra5  Pro over Carara5?

cheerio  lululee


Phantast posted Fri, 12 May 2006 at 10:30 AM

Is far as I can see the benefits are few and mostly concern network rendering. This is one product where "Pro" really means "Pro". If you're not a professional studio, you probably don't need it.


lululee posted Fri, 12 May 2006 at 10:42 AM

Is there a difference in the rendering quality between Cararra5 and Cararra5Pro?

cheerio  lululee


anastasis20 posted Fri, 12 May 2006 at 11:07 AM

Attached Link: http://www.eovia.com/products/carrara5/carrara_pro_vs_std.asp

This is what you are after.

richardson posted Fri, 12 May 2006 at 12:08 PM

The transposer plugin would have to be added to C5. About 100.00$. And you lose the wicked renderspeed and new tools. How I read it...


SAMS3D posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 4:34 AM

What is the difference between Hexagon 2 and Carra?  I thought Hexagon was Carra?


Phantast posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 5:33 AM

This has been asked before. Hexagon is a high-end modeler with rudimentary rendering ability; Carrara is a high-end renderer with limited modeling ability. Hexagon competes with Rhino; Carara competes with Vue.


TrekkieGrrrl posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 11:17 AM

Quote - Carrara is a high-end renderer with limited modeling ability.

Uh.. I don't think eovia (or Daz) agrees with you on that one. Carrara is a modeler with a great rendering engine and some extras like landscaping tools. Hexagon is just a modeler, it can't render at all (it can do a lame impersonation of a render but...)

Hexagon has some nifty modeling tools that Carrara hasn't got, but then Carrara has some other. They compliment each other nicely :)

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sandman_dreaming posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 11:58 AM

I was wondering what the main differences were too between the Pro and standard version. Why would you still need the Poser Transposer plugin if Carrara 5 now supposedly imports Poser files (.pz3, .cr2 )? Just wondering...


richardson posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 12:42 PM

sandman, Guessing here,,, I understood transposer2 imports everything. This is standard in C5pro. C5 does not come with Transposer2 but can be appended.


Miss Nancy posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 1:38 PM

when I called them last year, they said it would be slightly cheaper to buy pro, than to buy regular and all the add-ons, if one feels the need for those add-ons. but they may have been having a sale at that time, a special offer or something.



Dizzi posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 6:33 PM

Quote - Why would you still need the Poser Transposer plugin if Carrara 5 now supposedly imports Poser files (.pz3, .cr2 )?

Transposer takes the mesh as it is from Poser and imports it into Carrara. That means that all magnet settings, dynamic clothing/hair, geometry swapping, settings from remote controls (like PoseMagic, Apollos ADS dials,...) can be imported into Carrara and looks just the same as in Poser (same meshbending). And you cannot pose the Transposer imported figures in Carrara as no boning information will come through (only a solid mesh). Using Carrara's native importer won't get the stuff from above right, but you can then pose the figure in Carrara, load poses (regular, MAT, injection) etc. But not all will work correctly right now.



sandman_dreaming posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 6:39 PM

Thanks Dizzi...I knew there had to be a reason!


sandman_dreaming posted Sat, 13 May 2006 at 6:43 PM

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sandman_dreaming posted Sun, 14 May 2006 at 10:29 AM

How odd! The last posting to this thread, despite it saying it's by me, is NOT by me!! I've never been a moderator and have no idea what the post is about! Can anyone explain how someone's post can be 'mis-attributed' to a different person?? All very strange!


Gareee posted Sun, 14 May 2006 at 11:04 AM

Quote - > Quote - Why would you still need the Poser Transposer plugin if Carrara 5 now supposedly imports Poser files (.pz3, .cr2 )?

Transposer takes the mesh as it is from Poser and imports it into Carrara. That means that all magnet settings, dynamic clothing/hair, geometry swapping, settings from remote controls (like PoseMagic, Apollos ADS dials,...) can be imported into Carrara and looks just the same as in Poser (same meshbending). And you cannot pose the Transposer imported figures in Carrara as no boning information will come through (only a solid mesh). Using Carrara's native importer won't get the stuff from above right, but you can then pose the figure in Carrara, load poses (regular, MAT, injection) etc. But not all will work correctly right now.

So neither solution actually works properly in getting poser content into Carerra then?

 

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Dizzi posted Sun, 14 May 2006 at 3:14 PM

Quote - So neither solution actually works properly in getting poser content into Carerra then?

The only application that imports Poser content properly is Poser ;-) With Transposer you can open a Poser scene and keep editing it in Poser and update it in Carrara (as long as you've choosen to keep a link to the file). Keeping a link and updating will also not overwrite any shader settings you've changed in Carrara.



arcady posted Sun, 14 May 2006 at 3:43 PM

Quote - > Quote - Carrara is a high-end renderer with limited modeling ability.

Uh.. I don't think eovia (or Daz) agrees with you on that one. Carrara is a modeler with a great rendering engine

Anyone who has tried to use the vertex modeler in Carrara knows why Phantast said what she said... Outside of vertex modeling it is good, but Carrara's vertex modeler is sub-par at best. And the problem here is that most Poser focused modeling is going to need a vertex modeler.

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Tunesy posted Sun, 14 May 2006 at 5:27 PM

...the C5Pro vertex modeler has been vastly improved over previous versions.  Only glaring omission to me is symmetry.