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Stacey, my first impression is that it looks very nice...some interesting new features which will be fun to explore...congratulations in getting it up and running!

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Thank you!!! I think you guys will love them. Just have to keep in mind that they do have a different look and feel and sometimes its just a matter of getting used to something different:)

Stacey?

Where would I find a style sheet to change the colors? I found where to put it, but have no idea how to do it. grin But first impression? Definitely going to take time to get used to. My homepage surprised me losing all my favorite images and artists. At least the images were lose until I found them in another area. lol Not bad at all. Great job on getting it going.

Thanks
Janet

Question: I actually really like the idea of putting people's avatars next to the comments when they leave comments on my images...but won't it take up a fair amount of bandwidth to load those avatars each time an image page is opened? considering all the page views on all the images that members upload daily, bandwidth is sort of a precious commodity these days...

What do you think?

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That option can be turned off, so it's not such an issue.

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Oh, okay...I'll have to look for that option...still, unless everyone turns them off, there will be a drain of bandwidth...but whatever...I'm just going to go with the flow now...and as long as the speed of the site has improved (as promised), I'll be happy!

Another question: what is "art charts" going to be (at the top of the galleries page)...sounds very interesting!

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Hi,

The Art Charts will be very cool...It is designed to tally favorite images, favorite artists and vendor credit favorites from the member's information input into the "MY FAVORITES" link (it used to be on the Member homepage, all the information was converted so any images, artists, etc you had on your Member Homepage is still available its just now found on the MY FAVORITES link) and it will give you a listing of what was the top (I believe 100) favorite images, favorite artists, etc. What is really cool is the favorite images will be links but if you scroll over them the thumbnail will pop up. As soon as the information is tallied it will be listed.

Yee Freakin' Haw......

Now... How the hell do you see more than the first 6 images in your gallery?

<-insert words of wisdom here->

I think you can go to MY OPTIONS link and specify how many images you want to see on one page..

Let me know if that doesn't do work.

New gallery, what a laughing stock that is. Hate the white background but that can be fixed with the CSS style sheet changees. Now, as if enough people weren't looking at the "Today's Most Viewed", "Today's Most Commented", and "Today's Top Rated" images in the old gallery, now we are forced to look at them when we go to the gallery. I myslef would rather not have to look at those. Is anyone at Rosity playing with a full deck of cards? It sure doesn't seem like it.

cherokee69,

We will be resolving the issue with the Most Viewed, Most Commented, etc as I don't like seeing some of the thumbnails on the Main Gallery page either it will be resolved.

And yes we weren't going to offer the CSS stylesheet changes but stick with our default colors and decided during the forum conversion to offer this option which now is offered for the galleries.

You can make your own favourites / bookmark link to the galleries instead of using Renderosity's default. In my case, I made the link straight into the "what's new" section.

I'm not forced to look at what most people think is good. ;-)

And the style sheet is done how? Is there one to copy and paste hanging around?

Thanks you Stacey,

I'll just sit back and see how many of these changes actually get taken care of. What white background for gallery inages really sucks. The old gallery with the black background seems to enhance the images while the white background for the new gallery doesn't. To make is easy on all the viewers, it would be nice if Rosity offered an alternate CSS style sheet to make the galleries similar to the old ones. Alot of people don't understand CSS Style sheets or what needs to be changed. As it is now, Rosity is essentially saying if you don't like the colors, your on your own to fix it.

Different, more complicated, with more ( possibly unnessasary) options doesn't always equal better. But, then again. I still think a telephone is supposed to be for talking into.

There will be CSS examples soon, Unicornst; you can bet on it.

Just slapping the first 10 or so lines from my Forum CSS at the front of the Rendo default improved things greatly.

I will see if we can get at least another option for a stylesheet posted and I'll make a sticky in here of it so members that don't understand how to do that (me being one of them, LOL) can be helped. A lot of members helped each other with the Forum stylesheets so if anyone wants to volunteer and post, I'll sticky it:)

PJF, are you volunteering for me? heehee

Kudos to those that made the gallery changes! I'm sure you all worked hard and I, for one, am very pleased with the results. There are a few things I would like to comment on:

Deleting comments - I think this is a bad idea. Admins/Mods should be the only ones with the ability to delete comments. The old system of making a request to the Mods concerning a disagreable comment was fair and prevented people from valid, constructive comment from being removed at the whim of a member.

My Gallery/Most Recent Upload - The text accompanying the image is not being formatted as it was formatted when the image was uploaded. It's being displayed as string of text. It would be nice if it displayed in the format it was created with. For example, the verses of a poem, instead of displaying on separate lines are displayed as one continous line of text.

My Gallery - the My Gallery link takes us to a summary page that shows the Most Recent Upload, Recent Uploads, Favorite Images, and recent views. One has to cut and past the link from the bottom of the page to get to our full gallery. Clicking on My Gallery should take us to our full gallery, and clicking on Summary should take us to the summary page.

Views and Comments - are not visible under the thumbnails. One has to look at the individual image to see the number of views and comments. Many of us check our gallery page to see which images are getting the most hits to help us judge what techiniques and subjects are successful. It makes it more difficult to rate our images at a glance if we have to view each individual image to get that information.

Permissions, Options and Advisories - Great Idea! Being able to set the kind of comment/critiques wanted or disable comments/ratings all together is a fantastic addition!

Ratings - droping it down to 5 is a good idea. Not many paid attention to the old rating system anyway.

Zoom - another nice addition but there is a drawback, some images get the "jaggies" from being compressed in the default image. It's noticible in the default image and is eliminated in the zoom. The problem is some people may give a lower rating to the image for poor antialiasing or leav e a comment criticising the lack of antialiazing, if they don't look at the zoomed view.

I'd appreciate knowing if some of the concerns I pointed out will be considered and/or addressed. All in all I am surprised and pleased that the conversion went so well. The new galleries are super, and I find the white background doesn't really detract from viewing the images at all. I do appreciate that we were given the option to change it though. Things are still running a bit sluggish, hopefully that will change within the next few hours. All in all:

I give you guys two thumbs up - Job Well Done!! :thumbupboth:

It's all fun and games...
Until the flying monkeys attack!!!

I like the new gallery so far but I can not figure out how I put a thumbnail in for my profile??? PLease help.

Anita

The deleted comments is being resolved because that shouldn't be there. another member already reported this so we are taking care of it:)

My Gallery/Most Recent Upload - not sure if the issue with the text can be changed but I will check into it for you

My Gallery - this is being fixed as well not sure why that link doesn't take you to the full gallery but it will soon

Views and Comments- the comment number should show under the thumbnail at least I am seeing them there? But the number of views is on the full image only but I will ask about this

StaceyG wrote:> Quote - The Art Charts will be very cool...It is designed to tally favorite images, favorite artists and vendor credit favorites from the member's information input into the "MY FAVORITES" link (it used to be on the Member homepage, all the information was converted so any images, artists, etc you had on your Member Homepage is still available its just now found on the MY FAVORITES link) and it will give you a listing of what was the top (I believe 100) favorite images, favorite artists, etc. What is really cool is the favorite images will be links but if you scroll over them the thumbnail will pop up. As soon as the information is tallied it will be listed.

Thanks, Stacey! That'll be really interesting to see!

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anitalee,

Are you talking about an Avatar? If so, please click on the MY OPTIONS link here in the forums (at the very top) and you can add your avatar there.

If not, please clarfiy what you mean here and I'll try and help you.

You're very welcome cliff. It will be extremely cool once its all in place

Thanks

First...thanks for the answers about the CSS. I'll keep an eye out for that post because all this white does get to my eyes.

Second....Nope....No comment number under the thumb. At least on my end. And I second having the number of views back under the thumb.

I'm assuming the lack of ebots on fav artist uploads is getting fixed as well?

ANITALEE.... go to MY OPTIONS in the forums to upload your avatar. It'll show here as well as in the galleries.

Hi Stacey, I just tried to do the avatar thing..but theres nowhere to upload it. Am I missing something? I went to my options...but the only thing I see is how to change my info and a really weird css thingy. Thanks,,,Laura

Unicornst,

You're very welcome first off and I will check on the number of comments/views under the thumbs.

And the ebot problem will be addressed as soon as the gallery stuff calms a bit and the programmers can get to it:)

Thank you all for your patience while we work through everything

Speaking of Avatars, the option to remove them from the comments under images doesn't seem to work.

Also, I've seen someone post that the nudity block wasn't working for them.

Hi PJF,

I'm checking on the Avatar thing for ya and the nudity block if they have their nudity filter turned on does work the only difference is now you will get a "Content Advisory" thumbnail but if you click on the thumbnail you will see the nudity, LOL.. Used to be if you had your nudity filter set to not see nudity it just left out all the images that had the nudity flag set. Doing it this new way doesn't pull so many resources as the system doesn't have to go through every single image (over 420000) to leave out all the ones with nudity.

StaceyG wrote:> Quote - Views and Comments- the comment number should show under the thumbnail at least I am seeing them there? But the number of views is on the full image only but I will ask about this

Stacey, just a heads up...I'm not seeing any comment numbers under the gallery thumbnails either...at least when I just scanned through the most recent images people have uploaded.

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Quote - Hi Stacey, I just tried to do the avatar thing..but theres nowhere to upload it. Am I missing something? I went to my options...but the only thing I see is how to change my info and a really weird css thingy. Thanks,,,Laura

Laura, you need to go to "My Options" in the forum section, not the Gallery section

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Thank you so very much Jen...I got it now :0)

I know you all went to a lot of work here but I prefer the old gallery layout better. It's not that i don't like change, but all of this extra fluff distracts from the images, which are what I come here to see.

Welcome to Inner Renderer, hehe. Really cutting edge for Renderosity, only, say, five years behind, and a definite downgrade as far as looking at images is concerned, where Spartan, simple, and efficient is better. Have you ever noticed that the amount of air travel done in the world is directly proportional to the sameness of where one can fly? If this goes on, Renderosity will soon be pacing Inner Traveler for number of views, hoho.

No comments numbers or viewing numbers under any on my machine either.
Standing by for CSS links as well.
Also, seem to have lost the date and it has been replaced with a uploaded "how long ago". Any chance of getting it back to a simple date?

OT, I really like what you have done with the site mail system!

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!

First it seems eveybody is always afraid of saying something negative on Renderosity anymore... the being banded or censored fear I guess. Oh well here goes... I have found the new changes as of late irritating and some makes viewing and communicating with friends here difficult at best! Maybe I'm just an old timer and I don't like change... but that is far from the truth! I embrace good change! The opening of a picture in a new window that also closed with a click rocked... and now it's gone. The going from one page to the next is difficult, you end up at the end if you miss the wrong tiny page click, or you have to click a number instead or the next, last, first or previous button which worked so well:( Also when you use to click on the members name to reply to a comment it took you to IM which was finally getting stright again... now you have to go to their profile to reply! The new report TOS violation is just an inventation for members to play censor which is a joke....

I guess I ranted on long enough... I just really miss the Renderosity I loved so dear, the things that set renderosity appart from other sites! I know things have to change... but they just seem to be going in the wrong direction as of late. I do appreciate all the hard work the staff and moderators do... but since bondware took over it hasn't been the same.

I know if I don't like it... leave! Rant over!

Thanks Stacey. Bet you're fingers are tired from typing tonight. grin

Oh...and sorry about the seeming "shouting". I misjudged on the text size.

How does one go about getting an avatar to post? I chose the link in my edit profile that stated change info and avatar. I completed the info form, updated and still found no place for an avatar? You help is truly appreciated.

I like the look of the site, the slowness will take some getting used too! (=

Namaste...it's universal [ =

Hi Dinhi

You click on the MY OPTIONS link in the forums and upload/change your avatar there for now. This will carry your avatar through the galleries and forums.

bbratche - Its okay to express your opinions here. We understand that not everyone is going to be happy with changes made, that is to be expected in a site with this many members. Everyone has their different views and opinions on things and that is fine:)

Unicornst, yes my fingers are tired:( waaahh..heehee. And no problem I am flying around here so fast I didn't even notice your text....

Okay I feel dumb but ... where's the upload button? I've waited all day to post and I can't find it :P

MISTDRAGON

I do appreciate the hard work you guys do, and I also know that some of the changes are out of your control... it's just frustrating at times... especially when ole Osity didn't seem broke to me to begin with:) And I agree Dinhi about the slowness... and the not being able to cut and paste is killing me!!!!

Thanks

bbratche

MistDragon,

Click on the "galleries" link in the header here and you will see a bunch of links for different things, there is one there that says "upload"

No worries bbratche, hopefully things will just keep improving with time:)

Just checked it out a little more. Perhaps should have waited a moment before criticizing. It's pretty ugly and inefficient, it's true, but it also has the saving grace of being very SLOW, hehe. Great job guys! Almost as good as the print magazine fiasco!

Thanks, I think I may have inadvertantly figured this out befor your reply. Just a suggestion, perhaps on the main homepage, a few FAQ guide to the new site and navigation. This may help all of us get a feel for the hard work you have done, and make the transition easier for others.

I found a glitch in the upload area, this may just be for me but you never know. I utilized the new preview area, to see if I needed to make any changes. When I saved from there, I was tossed to the main gallery site. I checked my personal gallery and the image did not post, so I went in and rather than inspect first, I just uploaded.

Hope this helps! New things have bugs and it's up to us to beta test! (=

Namaste...it's universal [ =

To Dinhi:

Corretto: it's not a program, it's a patch., hehe. Give me a buzz when you're through Beta testing. How much do they pay per year? Or is it piecework, hoho.

THE FONT IS TOO TINY... SO WILL THE STYLE SHEETS TAKE CARE OF THAT ?

WHY DIDN'T IT CARRY OVER FROM THE FORUM? (MY COLORS)....

AND WHAT SPEED?? I GAVE UP TRYING TO GET ONE IMAGE TO LOAD ONCE I WAITED AND WAITED JUST TO GET VUE AND ANIMALS TO COME UP... TIME OF CHANGE OF SERVER?? HUH? IT'S NEARLY 7 PM CALIFORNIA TIME... AND WITH ONLY 1400 ON LINE HERE IT CRAWLS... CAN NOT ENJOY ANY VISITS LIKE THIS... HEAVEY SIGH

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

THE STORE IS CRAWLING TOO, AND NO IT'S NOT ME, BEEN TO PLENTY OF OTHER SITES. :(

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

min 0 x 0 / max 0 x 0 @ 0 kB for this gallery section this is what I saw under guidelines for loading images. is the max size still the same as previously?

PJF has posted a nice CSS in a thread here.

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!

Yes yesitis3:)

Lyne, As stated previously we are having some server issues and the fact that the programmers are still working on things is making the site slower for now. It will improve and its slow for me right now as well so I know its not just you:)

WAIT..NO FULL SIZE IMAGES? NOW WE HAVE TO CLICK TO GET A NEW PAGE AND CAN'T CLOSE WITH A CLICK THAT YOU JUST TRIANED ALL OF US TO DO?

DARN IT ALL... I HATE THIS... THE OLD GALLERIES WERE SO PERFECT....ARGH!!

AND WHERE ARE MY GALLERY OPTIONS TO EVEN CHANGE STUFF? AVATARS, WHAT A WASTE FOR POSTING COMMENTS HERE... SHEESH!

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

I have to wonder....folks I work in process redesign and I can't begin to tell you how many times I have had to redesign a process and then listen to all the "Hey!'s" because they didn't want to change. Change happens, just like our bodies as we age man, nothing much we can do about most of it, but we do have control of some of it!

Change comes with challenges, the worst of those challenges is in grasping critical feedback alongside those that have nothing but negative to say. If the new site causes you issues, post em! Be as comprehensive as you can. Everything you can give back based on this new design, will enable the developers to create a more efficient space! New things have their issues, it's up to us to give the feedback necessary for the right fixes.

It's all good.... (=

Namaste...it's universal [ =

Thank you Dinhi:)

Lyne, please understand that we are still working on converting the entire site and it will take some time. We are trying to address every question, comment, etc so please give us that tiime.

You can change your avatar by going to MY OPTIONS in the forums for now.

Which gallery options are you referring to, let me know more details and I will help.

You were very upset with the Marketplace change and the forums change but we worked out the signficant bugs there and we will here as well, please just give us that time. Things just went live with the galleries today.

Thanks

Despite turning the avatar flag off in My Options, they are still there against the comments. Got that ultra white sorted (PJF's CSS) so everything else now is clean-up IMO!

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!

Stacey,

In the gallery "My Options" there is an option to "Show other users's avatars?". If you uncheck that, it does noting and still shows avatars.

Incarnadine,

The Gallery profile isn't updating yet because of the profile info all needing to be converted over, should happen in a week or so.. For now you have to use the MY OPTIONS link in the Forums but I think you can't turn it off for the galleries and keep if for forums. I think it has to be all or nothing for now:)

No, in the gallery when people comment their is an image next to their name. How do I put my image in? I looked all over.

Thanks

Anita

That is an Avatar. If you upload one, it will be here when you post in the forums (as mine is) and in comments in the galleries. You go to MY OPTIONS in the forums and upload your avatar there

Thanks

One backward step needed.

From the old old gallery setup I preferred if looking at an image on the images actual page (not the collective thumbnail page) the ability to go to the previous or next image FROM the image page.

Yes, this did BYPASS the thumbnails. Some artists actually used the thumnails to get users to view the image, which often times had nothing to do with the thumbnail or was a "Gotcha!" type thing.

We had the now old gallery where Click Thumnall->New window with Image, Click Image->Close new Image window, back to Thumbnail page. While I did not like it (extra clicks!) I dealt with it.

Now we have new new galleries. Can we have the old old image viewing way (Viewing Current Image, with options to goto previous or forward to next image, up to current gallery thumbnail page.) back please?

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Well, I went to my options in the forum and could find no place for an avitar. Their was a lin that said click here to edit avitar but their was no avitar on the other page. But going to my profile from here I was able to put one in. Good to know that works for both.

Thanks

Anita

I think it's a mess..this gallery now feels very un-inviting & cluttered

what happend to the image quality?.now the viewer has to click an extra time to view the image as I intend it to be viewed(without such awful compression)

why bother with that?..what do you need a popup window for?

were any artists consulted about how they might like their art presented?..or is this entirely decided by the programmers & rosity staff...I would have thought a dedicated thread discussing what changes we might like to see would be nice..

cya

Cg Society Portfolio

Overall I think the new galleries are HUGE step in the right direction, but the main thing that's downright terrible:

The shrinkage of images to a max of 700px wide when viewing the image page. The fact that there is a "Zoom In" option does not cut it, because the first thing that people see is the crappy, compressed, aliased image. This is not representative of our works, and in fact I received some negative comments today and had to explain that it was the website's work not mine. Once I explained how to view the image properly (by clicking on it or clicking the "Zoom In" button) the negative comments were rescinded. However, we shouldn't have to do that in the first place. Display images at their uploaded resolution.

Still, there's lots of good, the format, the CSS customization (though I'd like to put the menu back on the left where I used to have it), the advanced gallery stats, and the comment boxes. I can tell a lot of hardwork went into this and the Rendo folks should be commended for it. Once they take care of all the bugs, there's no doubt that this will continue to be the best 3D art community that I've seen on the 'net!

¤~Giolon~¤

¤~ RadiantCG ~¤~ My Renderosity Gallery ~¤

Wow - usually I am really quite here on the forum, and to be honest... I expected a mess. But in my oppinion the new gallery is really nice. And yes, I like the zoom option. Working at diffrent Workstations I constantly have to switch between the screen resolutions. And the format fits into all ^.^ And to click or not to click ... sometimes I don't even want to see some images in full detail :) But what I am still kind of missing is an option to reply at comments directly. I know, it's a mess to code and program it but THAT would be a really huge improvement imho.

Admittedly, I'm mostly a browser, so viewing 'What's New" is mostly what I do
at Renderosity.

The new layout looks nice.

Is it possible to re-include a Next_Page button - the page numbers are rather small
to click on?

Also, can the artist name be restored at the bottom of the "zoomed" picture - I like to zoom a page-full of thumbnails at once?

This is going to take some getting use to..... I like some of the features but dont like that the "Favorite Artist and Favorite Images" are not on my first page of my homepage...It was a way of letting my favorite artist that I do see them as my favorites.

I dont like that the favorite Merchents get priority here.......makes it seem so unpersonal and more commercial.

I think that you are going to grustrate alot of people with them having to change the css style and for not giving better instructions on how to load an avatar. Some people dont even come to the forums they stay in galleries most of time..........How are they going to find out that you have to upload the avatars in the forum options only??

Even though some of the changes ae nice....I think the way you went with how you did it, is going to cause you more headaches then you think.

Oh ........and it would have been nice if you would have let us know on the front page alot sooner that you were working on the galleries.

LadyLisa

:b_stunned: Also one more thing....... I dont like that even after I am logged into Renderosity I have to relogin when I go to the galleries.........Then when I relogin it tells me that my info is wrong and I have to correct my errors........then when I go relogin with the same information it finally shows me logged in...... Frustrating.

I just found a cool feature. If you go to the top and click on "my gallery" it takes you to your own gallery...scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll see your all time statistics!

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!

What are "Art Charts"?

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!

Now when a link sends me between the subdomains market.renderosity.com &
excalibur.renderosity.com & www.renderosity.com, I have to log in separately for each the first time I'm sent to each.

Does this happen to anyone else? [ Using both IE7 Beta and Firefox 1.5.0.4 ]

The whole thing is that Renderosity use to be about art... now it's about Bondware and their technology. The viewing and search in the galleries is aweful... and I mean aweful... how is this an improvement.... really I'd like to know? When I searched for my own art... the images were in no order at all... makes it hard to read the comic I've been posting! I'm going to stick it out to complete the series and see how it goes... but if I were a newbie... I'd be going back to 3D Commune or another site that is more user friendly.

Yeah I know another rant... BRING BACK OUR OLD OSITY.... PLEASE! And BTW dump Bondware and their censorship polices while you are at it:)

First i wanna say "Stacey for president for what ever country you like".. just for repleying to almost all the comments about the new gallery.

Girl your fingers must be black and blue from typing by now :}

So now here this , i did not read all the previous comment "im not stacey" so maybe some things are already said.

1st my gallery is not my gallery anymore but just some of my last images and favorites..

Make MY gallery just my gallery leave all the other thing out of it useless and take server power and speed from the site.

And one thing you just have to get out of there is "my last Viewed" we are not " morons" we know what we have seen.

That option take up half of my screen, and do you people realy thing im gonna look at those over and over again ?

AND i dont know if you give the my gallery link to others .. the my last viewed images are shown too ?

If that is the case, that visitors of "my" gallery can see wich image I have last viewed .. its a violation of privacy. REMEBER I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS THE CASE!! i can check it out the links are not working yet.

Why do i mention this.. well lets say somebody is checking all the nudes and violence images..

You can be sure he want others to know about that do you.

The search option in gallery's have a flaw with the NEXT page the option is only on the top and not at the bottom of the page" like all the other page do have".

When searching it leaves out a lot of Hits in his calculation ... i checked with my own name and it leave out a lot of images that match over 80% but there not shown.

When viewing a image the "preview" is ugly .. the full view option by clicking in the image work only one way.. should be both ways so clicking in the full view image again should bring you back to the "preview".

I dont get a Ebot to tell me there is a comment for my Image. " now personaly i dont get anything anymore" ...

I dont have any idea what the subriction to gallery's is about ? i clicked my favo programs but i dont know what it does.

BUT what i do like is that there is NO view count anymore in the gallery at the main gallery pages.

I like it and realy hope it stays that way.

No people have to look at the tumbs to realy see whats there.. i know lots of people just checked a image because many others did.

I like the bigger amount of image per page.

The avatars on the coments "makes it just a bit more personal" in a strabge way.

I realy like the new 5 star rating .. the other was alway excellent or nothing 99% of the time.

The layout its self looks great and i can only hope that the SPEED BOOST is here soon because

is slower that ever before and im using a 20GB connection or a 8GB connection

Make it happen R'O and make us Happy

Thnx for readying this and maybe i'll get a repley too :}

Chris

PS i use the wordt Moron not to offend anybody but to be honnest i dont know a other wordt for it.

I dont have a attitude agains anybody and im not calling anybody names .

on the other hand i like to see others write all of this in Dutch and see if you know all the words :}

IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT BAR-CODE SENT A PM to 26FAHRENHEIT "same person"

Chris

My Free Stuff

"My last viewed images" is only visible to you, not to other members.

Ebots have been a problem for the last week or so and are being investigated.

The gallery "subscription" I think should send you an ebot every time an image is uploaded to that section. I wouldn't recommend selecting it for Poser unless you want your inbox to explode ;-)

The speed issue is not related to the gallery conversion but is apparently due to server issues which are being worked out. So cross fingers the gallery will be quicker very soon :-)

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and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

Hey Karen... thanks for the info:) Also you are not at all what I pictured you... you are a real cutie and have a wonderful smile:) I just wanted to say something nice this time:)

OMG... I... I... actually like the new galleries..................... wow.

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Who never doubted all those years?

My heart is stone and still it trembles

The world I have known is lost in shadows..."

Please, for crying out loud, put the Comments/Views count back under the thumbnails! Forcing me to go my gallery and click my own images just to see the number of hits is stupid. I know some people don't want the views count there, so at least enable it when you view an artist's specific gallery. Better yet, make the view/comment counts an option that people can toggle on and off...everyone would be happy that way.

And stop resizing the images. I don't want my images resized and force people to make an extra click just to see my work the way I want it presented. If I wanted my images to fit a specific screen size, I'd resize it myself before I uploaded so that it doesn't get butchered by automatic software.

I'm very disappointed in these new galleries.

I agree with Stonemason a 100%. The new gallery is not supporting the artists but became a showcase for bondware. The shrinked images look bad and I don't like the extra click I have to make.

It looks like the view count & # comments pops up if you hover the mouse over the thumbs...don't know if it did that yesterday...

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's become Bonderosity here:( Bondware and it's policies has ruined this one great art community... IMHO. I see less and less of the old timers posting here... and the overall quality of work has declined... mainly fu-fu fluff! The amount of images I view and save are down to about 5% of what I did when I first came here. I'm sorry to rant... but I hate to see something I really love slowly die....

Last word from me...

Yeah, it looks like the views and comment counts show up if you hover over the thumbnails now. It's not as good as it was, but at least a page of thumbnails in my gallery isn't as useless. Thanks to whoever coded that.

Now, just stop the software from resizing the images and the new galleries might achieve adequate status.

Ok I know I said last word but... now you no longer get a notice when someone leaves you a comment... there isn't even that option in the profile anymore!!!! So if I want to see any comments, I have to search for my own images... This totally is a screw up with the new galleries... why bother????

Lets see... almost total censorship... a unreasonable TOS... now galleries that are horrible to even view... terrible messaging system compared to the previous... and you don't know if people even are viewing or commenting on your work without going back to check!!!

I really don't see the improvement... or the point anymore... can someone explain anything good here...

Sorry but this.... ah forget it!

Karen1573 wrote:

The speed issue is not related to the gallery conversion but is apparently due to server issues which are being worked out. So cross fingers the gallery will be quicker very soon :-)

Yeah And thats where this site screwed up ... fix ONE thing at the time... the "new" site mail is not working 100%

The servers are NOT working 100%

The Forums are not working 100%

The Ebots are Not working 100%...

Well lets start something new thats NOT working 100%.... the gallery's

NO !! fix all of ONE item before start to mess up something new...

Its starting to look that Renderosity is becomming the TEST site for Bondware !

Im afriad this is gonna cost R'o a lot of active members.

I realy hope it gets better very fast...

Chris

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Chris

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FYI, the galleries are a R'osity-only module. Bondware will not be reselling it to any other parties. So, no, R'osity is not the test site for Bondware. We have another site we test on. However, you simply CANNOT anticipate EVERY SINGLE LITTLE problem until you have 1,800 people online at one time and those LITTLE problems become very BIG problems very QUICKLY. Please try to understand that. N

-Nicholas

As it is now, the new galleries are no improvement over the old ones. Here's a short list (probably incomplete) of functionality that has been lost: while uploading:

formatting the text to upload. Any HTML gets stripped off, so even the rudimentary formatting that was possible in the previous galleries is gone.
Why not use FCK Editor for the Notes upload section? That way a poem comes across as intended, a story can have proper captions, italics and so on.
crediting merchants. The previous way, a set of dropdowns, had the definite advantage of being able to use keyboard shortcuts. Now I have to scroll up and down the list for every merchant I want to credit. Anyone remember carpal tunnel syndrome?
still missing: a decent way to credit freebie providers. I know, I know, you can't make bucks off freebies, but I'd really love to see the 'merchants' * "Freestuff" and "Other"* in the list of merchants.
still missing: a decent way to indicate what apps have been used to create the image. Like most artists I use more than one application to get the final result, so like most artists I always wonder what gallery to post to.
still missing: indicating more than one genre. Case in point: most of my work involves a continuing fantasy story. What genre? Fantasy or Story/Sequential?

The new keywords may help to indicate the applications and genres, but a couple of checklists would have been much more user friendly.

As for the galleries themselves:

I sorely miss the Next/Previous links. Browsing through an artists gallery, or through a search result, using Next/Previous was easy, fast, and it saved quite a few mouse clicks. Please reinstate that functionality.
I definitely DO NOT like the resizing of the images. Too much quality loss, and the fixed format does not take into account that higher resolution screens like 1280x1024, 1600x900 or even more are getting more common everyday. User options to select whether you want to see large images resized to a predefined screen size, or to view them as uploaded would be so much better. Take a look at how the Renderotica gallery software works if you want to know how it should be done.
The inability to enter single line breaks in comments is more than a little frustrating. Constructive criticism is rendered unreadable since it cannot be separated into logical paragraphs. I do not ask for a full fledged colorful editor, the HTML possibilities of the comment box have been abused in the past, I just want simple line breaks.
Multiple page comments - what's the use? Only more clicks. Keep them on a single page, please. Even better, make single page/multiple page a user option.
E-bots. They have been mentioned before, but I really miss the ebots when one of my favorite artists uploads a new image, and I also miss the ebot when someone comments on one of my images. As far as I'm concerned, this bug is priority #1 on the fix list.

There are two positive things to report:

Voting is gone. I consider this a good thing. Voting has been controversial for I don't know how long, removing the voting option is probably the cleanest solution
And the changeover was pretty fast. I expected a downtime of at least the announced 12 to 14 hours, and it has been much, much quicker.

Fix these teething problems, and the new galleries will indeed be an improvement. As they are now, they're worse than before.

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

My gallery My freestuff

Quote - svdl I definitely DO NOT like the resizing of the images. Too much quality loss, and the fixed format does not take into account that higher resolution screens like 1280x1024, 1600x900 or even more are getting more common everyday. User options to select whether you want to see large images resized to a predefined screen size, or to view them as uploaded would be so much better. Take a look at how the Renderotica gallery software works if you want to know how it should be done.

That is an absolutely fantastic idea, svdl. The way that Renderotica does it is pretty much perfect, IMO. The option is in plain sight and visible so that people will see it, and it lets you know that the images you're looking at may have been shrunk (just as poorly over there as they are here I might add) to fit the screen. This makes the option to turn it on or off available and informative.

¤~Giolon~¤

¤~ RadiantCG ~¤~ My Renderosity Gallery ~¤

However, you simply CANNOT anticipate EVERY SINGLE LITTLE problem until you have 1,800 people online at one time and those LITTLE problems become very BIG problems very QUICKLY.

Please try to understand that.

Please understand this .... you should not have started a new project before the last one is ready for 100%.

Im not talking about making everybody happy with the new layout or funtions but what you offer MUST work 100% before starting something new.

I and now i speak personaly dont get any Ebot any more ... not a comment ebot not a new topic ebot not nothing.. and every time is mention this i hear/read wel after the new upgrade we fix it etc etc ...

That stinks a little does it not... make something work and then go further not make it work 70%and see what happens.

As far is i can count now there are at least 4 key elements of site "units" are not working 100% not even for 70%.

New Ebots Not working 100%

New site mail not working 100%

New forums Not working 100%

New gallery not working 100%

That will cost them members and member are costumers so it will cost them income...

Dont think that we because we are art freaks we dont have a clue about servers or how things work in this field of work .. a lot of us do...

To give you a idea for 8 months now i see all kind of server errors on this site..thats a total no no.

And every time some one "complains" about it its never ever R'o fault ... but do you understand that when some one try to login to this site to look for something new to buy and he cant login time after time he will take his money elsewere.... thats money down the drain for R'o

Lot of people check the gallery's to see the item they wanna buy "product gallery" or other memeber using that product to see how it looks in many ways. before spending the ca$h..

You cant when the site is a mess ... so dont complain about us having no patience we are having more patience then the programers deserve so far..

And to your repley, a little problem X 1800 = A BIG PROBLEM ...

Chris

IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT BAR-CODE SENT A PM to 26FAHRENHEIT "same person"

Chris

My Free Stuff

Bar,

I know these are frustrating times for everyone, including us (staff) but we are working hard to make things the best they can be. Please understand that NO MATTER what you do to prepare it is impossible to gauge everything beforehand.

yeah what Bar-Code said! Now I had an image of mine deleted when I was viewing it to see comments... damn this is getting worse by the minute.... aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg! I want "MY" Renderosity back not this!

Well I do like the "My Gallery" Changes... nice info:) See I do like change that is good:) Not being notified of my favorite Artist loading something or that someone has commented on my work makes it all seem pointless to some degree to even post:( Fix that and the size issues in the gallery and I can live with the rest:)

I do thank everyone at osity for the hard work you do... I really do appreciated eventhough it may not always seem like it:)

Thanks

Thank you bbratche, we will keep making adjustments I promise:)

Stacey wrote:

Please understand that NO MATTER what you do to prepare it is impossible to gauge everything beforehand. >>

Im not talking about little things im talking about not finishing the work until is working 100%

and starting something new.

No matter what your problems are when you finish the job compleet for 100% everybody will understand that things can go wrong.

But leaving a trail of unfinished jobs behinde while going into a new one thats just plain mismanagement from the programming department.

This site and what ever you think is by and for its members... and the way this is going is just the way to lose members and mechants alike.

And i have great respect for you stacey, you get 90% of all the partypoopers on your dish.

You got to deal with all of us not so happy campers here at R,o

I know im a bit frustrated by all of this .. i get members with questions about my freebee's angry

Because im not responding to there IM or site mails...

Im not getting them for weeks now and that kind of site error should have being fixed before starting up this gallery upgrade makeover whatever you like to name it.

I think R,o should have thinked twice before doing this gallery thing the gallery are the MOST importand part of this site...

I wonder if any artist in what rank " profesional or hobbyist" is asked what he/she like to see in a new gallery.

My fun about the site is getting below zero fast.. and i do like this site a lot..just have to be a site again that workes

Greetings from holland

Chris

IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT BAR-CODE SENT A PM to 26FAHRENHEIT "same person"

Chris

My Free Stuff

History keeps repeating itself.

As with the forums, there has been no serious attempt to collect information from the end users. While it is impossible to gauge everything beforehand, many problems and complaints could have been prevented by just asking us, the members.

It could have been so easy. A frontpage article, a sticky in the forums, outlining the proposed changes to the galleries, and asking for user input. While not every suggestion could have been implemented - probably there would have been contradictory ideas - this input would have given the staff and programmers a much clearer vision of when the new galleries were ready to roll out.

There would have been a few problems, of course. But not as much as there are now. Basic, essential functionality would not have been forgotten. As it is now, we have a gallery system that should be described as an early alpha version, not a final beta or release candidate.

As with the forums, Bondware/Renderosity has missed a perfect opportunity to create a good product. As with the forums, many things will have to be patched and missing functionality will have to be stuck on somehow, which will compromise the basic software design, making the system slower, less stable and less maintainable.

Good software design starts with specifying functionality in cooperation with the end users.

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

My gallery My freestuff

Not to be harsh or anything at all Bar but just to state some things here. First off the Site mail is working great, I'm not sure what issue you are still having with it as I think you and I conversed through site mail, LOL.. But let me know and I'll help you resolve it but it is working as designed and although its "different" its functioning great. The forums, Marketplace and Gallery as well as the rest of the site will be ongoing for quite some time. See we have to get the entire site over to PHP and once that is done, we can begin to modify, add features, etc. But its important for us to keep moving on getting all of the pieces over here. The forums work great (we're talking, aren't we, LOL) they are different than the previous forums yes so not every feature is coming back..I mean change is change... so they are working as designed with the exception of the ebots. Which I explained to you in Site mail what the problem was and that it would get resolved as soon as the programmers can get to it. The Marketplace is really good now..different so again not all features are going to be the same. We will always continue to improve, enhance etc.

Keep in mind also that we do a Community Survey every year and the most common wishes on the Survey for future changes ,we have implemented so we do listen. And also just see that in the forums, marketplace and now the galleries we do adjust/modify etc on what we can when the Community lets us know.

We are all working very hard to bring the Community the best 3D art site out there but you know Rome wasn't built in a day, LOL..

Really I understand that it gets frustrating but we are all doing what we can as fast as we can, k?

Mmm okay...im not shure whats going on but since about 1 minute I can't go to other forums anymore. my layout is completly different and totaly strange.

I cant go to the main site anymore it give me a blank page .. and thats it....

The only place where i can comment is here because was here in this thread when the thing happend...

So ... whats is going on ? the forums where not being transformed today ?

Why is everything different at once ... i hope that when i log out .. i can come back here...

Chris

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Chris

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We have some major server issues and had to bring the site down again. Hopefully things will be much better now.

I'm going to say this and I don't care who I piss off.

It amazes me that all this whining is going on over a site that you pay NOTHING for!!

All I hear is boo hoo, I am so put out with these changes. I want this, I want that!
You would think that people paid exorbitant amounts of money to be here. Last time I checked I didn't pay anything to display my art here and as a free site I think it is rude as hell for anybody to whine about anything that Renderosity does with THEIR galleries.

If they start charging money then I can see you having the right to say something. But, so long as the galleries are free, then I think everyone should say thank you and be patient while Renderosity works out the kinks in what is essentially a gift to you!

There Is No Exit From The Flame, You Are Simply Transformed Into The Language Of The Fire!

Yeah well, boo hoo or not, the pop up window and the awful jagged mini display are the height of user unfriendliness. I wonder if anyone at Renderosity has ever heard of usability. There doesn't seem much point in posting anything to the galleries any more, free or otherwise.
And by the way, if one wants to post more than one image a day, then you do have to pay for that.

I'm not boohoo-ing at all. For me these are all annoyance issues, not deal breaker issues.
I don't like the 700 pixel intermediate display, but I am noty going to run away over it either. I would prefer an option to go straight to the full size on a "my options" basis.
I am annoyed over the pop-up mouse over. I would prefer to have this selectable in "my options" as well. This can be lived with but we need to get it sorted CSS wise as well. I am using PJFs CSS and these do not play well with the pop-ups.
Gallery fav e-bots will be returning I have heard.
Everything else so far is trivial for me. (personal opinion)
Richard

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!

"There is no resizing algorithm in the gallery software. You are viewing the full-size image, we have instructed your browser to display it at a smaller width." Stacey G from FAQ.
Ok so FF is the jaggy maker in my case, fine; please give me the option to tell your s/w to stop telling my browser to display the images at 700 pixels wide. I run at 1600x1200 and it is real annoying and of no apparent value to do this.

BTW, I have always had the internal resizing down option in FF turned off so any image display downsizing is at your instructions.

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!

JLyons wrote:

Quote - I'm going to say this and I don't care who I piss off.

It amazes me that all this whining is going on over a site that you pay NOTHING for!!

All I hear is boo hoo, I am so put out with these changes. I want this, I want that!
You would think that people paid exorbitant amounts of money to be here. Last time I checked I didn't pay anything to display my art here and as a free site I think it is rude as hell for anybody to whine about anything that Renderosity does with THEIR galleries.

If they start charging money then I can see you having the right to say something. But, so long as the galleries are free, then I think everyone should say thank you and be patient while Renderosity works out the kinks in what is essentially a gift to you!

Perfectly reasonable position to hold...if it works for you, go for it. Just understand that there may be other opinions that are just as reasonable. E.g., for starters...

many of the people who post in the gallery also shop in the store here, thus supporting the costs to run the parts of the site that don't generate money directly (though many people will tell you that they often buy things in the store directly as a result of seeing them used in the galleries)...
some people may feel that they've entrusted their artwork to the site and are upset by the fact that it's being distorted (ruined in some cases) by the "resizing" that occurs now with these changes to the galleries...and paid for or not is irrelevent...

just two potential "reasonable" examples, IMHO...I'm sure there are more.

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks

Okay, okay. I'll get used to a few more mouse clicks to get where I'm going. I'll get used to almost anything,...but I' ve noticed loss of color in my gallery images, even in the zoomed in versions. Is this due to reprogramming them into the site? Will future uploads retain their color values? Or will I have to "add" extra color to my future renders to get them to look right on the site (that's gonna be kinda tricky)?

1st, let me say Bravo to the Renderosity Staff and the Programmers for undertaking this "Big Change". StaceyG, WOW, I appreciate the effort you and the other moderators have done in trying to answer so many questions, and often the same one! Well this may be another, but I just have not seen this brought up:

Where are My Favorite Artists?

Where are My Favorite Images? I

t has taken me 4 years to build that information, I sure hope it is not lost! Will we be notified like before when comments are made to our posting, and will the be notified when our Favorite Artist post their work? All the rest of the changes I can easily adapt to. I will be 60 in July, and I have learned in my life time that change is inevitable, regardless of good or not. I just don't like confussion! ;)

Well I finally found a way to get to My (new) Gallery, It looks like all My Favorite Artists are there, but I only see 24 of the 100's of My Favorite Images with no next page? Also I see new posts in the galleries from My Favorite Artists, yet I was not notified they had posted! Will these things be fixed?

I am sure its going to be confusing for a little while, that I don't have a problem with. What I don't understand it why wasn't the links to the old gallery format updated to access the new format?

We seem to have two accounts now.. One under the old page and another under the new format, except nothing works under the old format. To get here you have to sign in all over again. Another question, does this now affect the url links on our websites?

...I'll just sit back on my haunches and see what happens.

The reason you have to sign in twice is because the old side sits on the old ez format and the new side sits on Bondware3.0PHP side once the site is completely converted you will only have to sign on once.

Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things

SndCastie's Little Haven

OMG!!! The gallery is so slow :-O Is it suppose to be that slow? or is it just temperary? I have waited 10 minutes for the gallery upload..

Christel

I want to take your hand and walk you through my dreams...

I dont care who says what trying to make people feel bad because they are bitchin about what is going on with the site....This site reallyu is not a FREE SITE........If it wasnt for us Lowly little artist that Only upload our artwork here for free there would be no reason for this so called "allmighty look what we are giving you for free site" to even be here We have every reason to bitch........first they start working and making all these changes without telling us what was goingn on first.........took days before they finally put it on thje front page that these changes where going on.....Very frustrating to us Lowly artist that just post for free.second: Then they tell us they will be shut down on the 13th to fix the damn thing.....We lowly artist that just upload our artwork for free started getting use to the idea and went on about our business.Then today without it being fixed.......knowing that artist were here to check things out and see the changes instead of just shutting the site down for a couple of days to change things over and fix the damn thing.So they shut the site down for a few hours........then announce the new galleries are here once again.........And now the Galleries are not fixed!!! SHUT THE DAMN SITE DOWN AND DONT OPEN UNTIL IT IS FIXED is what I say..........I think that us lowly little artist that should be so damn grateful and kiss someones butt because of this free opurtunity would respect that more then dragging us through this crap that we have been dragged through this past week........example "its fixed, not fixed, fixed, not fixed, fixed, not fixed" aggrevation.If the moderators (or anyone else) get mad about what us lowly little artist have to say after being dragged through this mess the whole week , then maby they should take a vacation or something....Noone is saying the moderators are responsible for this.I have been a lowly artist who has been a member since 2001 and I have spent ALOT of money in the store and dont feel abit quilty for bitchin about this past week. I would have more respect for the Allmighty people that offer all this free service to us if they would have just shut the site down for a few days make the changes.....make sure it is working then open back up when it is instead of being so damn worried they are going to go miss out on the money that is made from the store and drag us through all the problems and nerve racking hours.......day after day.Bottom line is.......People at the top need to remember that Us lowly artist that upload our artwork here for free do have a say so..........If we are not happy then we go elsewhere and dont buy anything from the store and it only makes it harder for you to pay for bandwidth and God forsake dip into the money you make off this site and put into your pockets.Just be straight with me is all I ask.........If you need to shut the site down for a couple of days to work the kinks out.....let me know.....I will have more respect then being dragged through all this nearve racking stuff..........its fixed not fixed crap.

Yeah free... I give my art free here for viewing pleasure... and I've spent 100s of dollars here in the store... so I think that being said! Also now I can't even get to the galleries to view or post!

I hope it's fixed soon... I'm afraid this will cost Renderosity some members and store dollars! BTW I did like the store redesign!

Will we resume receiving emails from our fav artists list? This was very very convenient for me and my busy schedule, my artists list contained the type of art that really turned me on inspirationally and were just a wow for me. I love scrolling the main gallery on the weekends when time permits, I really miss the emails.

I am thrilled to see the voting buttons gone, the site is really looking nice. I hope your back up soon!

Namaste...it's universal [ =

Quote - I am using PJFs CSS and these do not play well with the pop-ups.

Richard

It was fine to start with - the pop-ups were small and legible (as default). Don't know why it changed and I'd like to try and fix it, but of course the galleries are down - deeply frustrating.

Just before the site shut down last night I had fixed the 700 pixel width (image resizing) thing via CSS. Hopefully that still works and I'll be able to post the code snippet.

I haven't seen any popups...where are they? And where are the galleries?

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!

I haven't been around for awhile and just seen that the galleries have been revamped. However, I can't get into them at all. I've tried with Firefox and IE to no avail. Is there a particular problem today with them? I get an error message after waiting several minutes.

Is it just me? If so, how can I get this fixed? Thanks

Diane :)

Quote - I haven't been around for awhile and just seen that the galleries have been revamped. However, I can't get into them at all. I've tried with Firefox and IE to no avail. Is there a particular problem today with them? I get an error message after waiting several minutes.

Is it just me? If so, how can I get this fixed? Thanks

Diane :)

It's not you, it's Rosity. EVERYTHING is down except the forums and marketplace. They really got a mess when converting the galleries. For awhile, the entire site was very, very slow and now, most of it has just died.

Yea, galleries back up and they're even FAST!!!!

...and now I see the popups, can't say that I like them though. :-)

My idea of rebooting is kicking somebody in the butt twice!

Quote - Yea, galleries back up and they're even FAST!!!!

...and now I see the popups, can't say that I like them though. :-)

Yep, I see the galleries are back now and I don't think we need those popups. I hope they get rid of them or at least give us the option to disable them.

Hm - like I said earlier, I really like the new design ... if it would work. I am one of this 'lower' artists who have no interest at all to dig deeper into the catfight going on in the market section. Just upload my images, check the gallery regularly for other great work and that's it. Well, I know I should keep my mouth shut (regarding the low amount of posts yaddayadda) but I have to agree with BAR-CODE. Fix one thing before you move on to another. Due to own experience I know how hard it is, I know that lots of people accessing this sites at the same time, that server maintainance is a tricky issue, but honestly - it is annoying at the moment. Ehr - and since I don't only want to bitch ... once the gallery is working again, people with CSS-knowledge could make stylesheets public for diffrent workarounds and looks ... just as a suggestion. I certainly will change some stuff in my gallery apperance and if any need is there I can share the code snippets too.

Ok - thanks for the info. I can access the galleries now.

Diane

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2652220

> Quote - . once the gallery is working again, people with CSS-knowledge could make stylesheets public for diffrent workarounds and looks ... just as a suggestion. I certainly will change some stuff in my gallery apperance and if any need is there I can share the code snippets too.

Style sheets are at the link above.

Do you have the ebots working yet? Haven't seen one in three days :(

hugz

Just felt I had to chime in to say that these new pop-up messages that appear when you mouseover a thumbnail in the galleries are sooooo intrusive to the browsing expierience...yesterday (yesterday?? I think it was yesterday LOL!) when they faded in if you kept your mouse over a thumbnail for a couple seconds, they were okay...but these new ones just pop over everything...

It's like you're in an art gallery trying to quietly view the artwork, but there's someone at each picture loudly barking out a description to you. If this is what they're going to be like, I'd prefer you get rid of them completely and just put the views & comments stats back under the thumbnail like they were "pre-upgrade."

Creating the new gallery layout shouldn't be an exercise in trying to fit every possible bell-and-whistle into the design. It should be sleek and light-weight, easy to use so it enhances the viewing experience...not hinder it.

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks

I am checking on this cliff-dweller to see if we can make this an option.

oh, okay thanks, Stacey...

just out of curousity, is there an issue with having the views/comments stats back under the thumbnails? I know that there had been regular discussions/arguments about the Hot20, but I don't recall any big outcry against the views/comments stats in the past...

hehehe, while you're here {laughs at myself} do you know what was 227 days 8 hr ago?? I didn't either, but it was Halloween night! Can't we have the dates back under the thumbs, too...pretty please!! {drops to knees to beg} Sometimes a date really adds some context to an image and it'd be nice to know it before you open the full image. Thanks for reading this.

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks

Life... there is life in the galleries... Thanks for all the hard work guys... there is hope yet... it still needs a lot of work... but I even got ebots today:)

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooo Wolfman

aka bbratche

Yes the ebots have been fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!! Things will continue to improve I promise. The programmers are just covered up right now especially with the server problems we have been having in the last few days.

Seriously! We had server problems that WEREN'T related to the galleries! So while trying to keep the servers up and running, we were also trying to fix bugs in the galleries and figure out why ALL eBots had simply quit working (including in the Forums, etc). 30 hours in two days ... I'm exhausted. Thanks for all your patience. We are working on bringing things back into tip-top shape. N

-Nicholas

Thanks for all of your hard work! (=

Namaste...it's universal [ =

Good job Nicholas! I know all about servers crapping out on you just when you're in the middle of an upgrade operation. Happened to me two years back: just created a specialized upload system for ASP.NET programming assignments when the server became unreachable. Took a while to find ot that a router had decided to go whacko, didn't have time to sleep for two days.... I do not envy your position, not at all.

Thanks for the hard work!

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

My gallery My freestuff

Althought this whole issue has been rough on the members... I know it's 100 times worse on you guys... and you are very much appreciated:)

Your guys rock...

Bondware still sucks though:) LOL (I hate censorship)

Someone mess up? Just read these messages and then clicked the gallery link at the top of the page and I'm getting this. Tried it several times..even closing Firefox and trying again...got the same thing

We are still resolving the major server issues that started yesterday. Hold tight and things should smooth out really soon.

Thanks

We're shuffling some servers around and bringing some of the old servers over to help handle the load of the new galleries, so things will be weird for the next hour or so. N

-Nicholas

Cross posted with you Nicholas:)

Well I got far at least, firs I got this page cannot be found, then the renderosity community server page (??????) , where Ihad to click on camalot.renderosity.com(orsomethingtothateffect) to get here. Cant access any galleries....I keep getting "ERROR This URL cannot be reterived." IMHO, shut it all down, do what you have to do, then fire it up. Ill be more than happy to wait...Just let us know beforhand. Ok I shut up now, at least for a little while.

Stacey wrote:

Yes the ebots have been fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you be more specific ? which Ebots are fixed ? surely not all

I have to say instead of 0,0 % Ebots i get 5% of them now but FIXED i can't call it that...

EDIT: is it me or is the site Online/offline online/offline etc etc etc.... if there is a serious problem shut the whole thing down for 2 days and fix it ... i think that people will have more understanding for that then this on off on off etc etc....

Chris

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The favorites ebots were fixed earlier and the forum ebots just got fixed a few minute ago

The galleries appear to be completely unaccessible at the moment.

Regarding ebots, what about the ones that notify you when someone has left a comment on your artwork? Are they fixed too?

¤~Giolon~¤

¤~ RadiantCG ~¤~ My Renderosity Gallery ~¤

Yes Giolon I am understand that as of now all ebots are working as they should.

We are still doing some load balancing on the galleries.

While I can't check them to see, I have receive two ebots about messages posted to a new gallery image I posted, so those do work.

I'd almost suggest trying to channel Mr. Scott, but he's an engineer, not a programmer.

________________________________________________________________

If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.

Hi, just a question. Gallery's window is completly on the left, and no in central page, is it normal or it's a problem which will be resolved, it's really not so confortable

The new gallery format .. hmmm ... (warning - big whinge approaching!)

Firstly some questions:

WHY WHY WHY is there a link "DELETE MY GALLERY" just above the thumbnails on my gallery page? Does this mean that in one accidental click I might delete my entire gallery, built up over several years? (For obvious reasons I haven't dared test this theory, but I have this sinking feeling that one day I might ... If I remember rightly this link has been placed in the same position that the old "return to gallery" link was ..)

Where has the link to the artist's website gone? (used to be under the thumbnails as part of the r'sity webring thing) Actually I can't find the link the webring info any more either.

Where are the next / previous image and return to gallery links? Are you really expecting people to rely on their "back" button?

Is it possible to update the links down the right hand side to how they were on the front page before (i.e. with the drop down choices etc etc - they were so much more user-friendly)

Where has the upload date on the thumbnail page gone? I don't know what date it was 9 days ago, let alone 999 ...

And my BIGGEST gripe:

Why must our artwork - carefully and painstakingly rendered, resized, sharpened etc etc by us for optimal web viewing be squashed into a space 700px wide? Whoever made the decision to do that on an ART website surely needs their heads examining! (I can forgive IKEA this faux pas, but not administrators of a site like this). I feel like my work is just being rubbished.

What is happening with the homepage? Is that still in the pipelne or has it just dissappeared?

Secondly some comments / opinions:

The css is awful - and yes, I know it can be changed, but, really, the default is truly awful, considering this is an art site. Now the images are being displayed as if they are items in the Argos catalogue and have nothing to do with art whatsoever :-(

Too many horrible bordered boxes around everything on the page - it just looks a mess.

The mouseover popups are ugly and intrusive.

The avatars beside the comments are ghastly - I know I can turn them off for my own viewing but not everyone will, and really they totally detract from the image being displayed. I find them only just tolerable in the forums, but totally pointless on the gallery comments.

The statistics are a nice addition, but look nasty where they are - a simple link to the stats would surely be better?

Sorry to be so negative about all the new stuff - but quite frankly, I am negative about it all. I appreciate that changes and updates are necessary from time to time, but not when the end result is that everything looks and feels all wrong.

Tina

aartika! fractal art by Tina Oloyede : http://www.aartika.co.uk

Can we please get the "Uploaded on: Date XXX Time YYYY" information put back below the images? I realize that this info is on the little pop-up, but it makes it much harder to figure out where one left off in browsing the galleries, since the "uploaded 3 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes ago" is constantly changing and provides for a very poor fencepost in gauging what is new since you've last browsed the site. Having to hover over images for a pop-up is cumbersome.

¤~Giolon~¤

¤~ RadiantCG ~¤~ My Renderosity Gallery ~¤

I think we are going to reverse this as soon as the programmers get time so that the "uploaded 3 day" will be in the pop up and the actual upload date will be where that was..

Holy Crap, StaceyG, that'd be AWESOME! =D (just so you don't think I'm negative all the time I do like a lot of the new stuff!)

¤~Giolon~¤

¤~ RadiantCG ~¤~ My Renderosity Gallery ~¤

Since no one answered my questions about color reduction in my gallery images, I assume it's just my own personal problem. I don't understand it, though, I haven't changed the color profile in my moniter or any thing.

Sorry Joeanomaly, but as you can probably guess I have been extremely busy in the last few days and this thread alone being 5 pages, I have missed some things and I apologize.

Can you please contact me via Site Mail or email to give me the details of your issue and I'll look into it.

Thanks

For the cheerfulness of your demeanor and just being there to listen - thank you Stacey!

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!

Quote - For the cheerfulness of your demeanor and just being there to listen - thank you Stacey!

Agreed!

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks

Um, any idea what happened to the 166 (largely negative) opinions posted in the front page story "The Newly Enhanced Renderosity Galleries are here!" ?? They seem to be all gone now! :blink:

I thought maybe it was due to the shifting around of the servers, but I see the opinions are still there for "Artist of the Month."

...strange

Check out my full gallery at Cliff-Dweller Artworks

I had to turn the opinions off as it was getting to be too much to read and keep up with. The feedback coming into my admin address so that I can be sure and not miss any questions, will be easier for us to help members having issues. And unfortunately unless there is something I don't know (will find out tomorrow) turning off the opinions makes it where previous opinions don't show. I might have done something wrong as I don't do Front Page articles much so I'll find out from our FP expert tomorrow...

Thank you all for the kind words. I'm here for you all and will do everything I can do help make this site the best it can be along with all your and the rest of the staffs help!!!

once it all works i really think its gonna be cool :)

i like the ability of checking a box to 'open images in new window' - which i always prefer ... and for those who dont just dont need to enable it ... so thats really cool this way everybody can go by the way they prefer

and i like the way 'my' favourite images ( of other artists ) are shown - yay i can see all them pretty thumbs with no extrawork :D

and all the other little extra features are much promising i believe

so i just wait patiently that it all works without problems and i hopefully can upload an avatar then

YAY!!! the Galleries are working now and DAMN I must say they are fast!!! Excellent work Guys!!!

sorry i not can enter in the gallery :-( and in the marketplace i need change the www with market every time i need see a product .... it is a mine problem or what.????.. thanks in advice Orietta

bye bye ans kisses ^_^

Right now the galleries are loading too slowly for me to use them--I think the enhanced content may be the culprit. You had an intermediate version of the site that ran pretty fast two weeks ago, (and I really like the "Click the image to close window" feature). I also find in my gallery the "what I have recently viewed" feature sort of creepy. I don't think anyone really cares and the thumbs take up Rosity brain space. Also I don't need to have to profile pics either--I know cgtalk does it but that doesn't mean it's a smart use of resources. Go lean and fast, IMO, and you'll get a lot more traffic.

100% agree withlwperkins! Click and close was great... now a pain... and the recent viewed... yuck... I've clicked on a thumb and then thought... I wish I hadn't done that!!!!!

Lean mean and user friendly I say!

Wolfman

Quote - sorry i not can enter in the gallery :-( and in the marketplace i need change the www with market every time i need see a product .... it is a mine problem or what.????.. thanks in advice Orietta

I have exactly the same problem, but a friend of mine can see everything without errors so I'm not sure what the problem is. To see the gallery I have to manually type in excalibur in the adress to get it to work. I cleared my cache so don't know what else to do.

Ok, here's my penny's worth; likes and dislikes of the gallery /site changes.

Likes: I do like the general look of the main gallery pages. I think the white background is ok. I'm glad to see the upload date has returned, rather than how many hours ago it was uploaded.

Dislikes:

Homepage and contact - when clicking on the artist's name you don't go to the Homepage anymore - we see the gallery and stats. It was better before - you could see the link to contact the artist or the gallery link if that's what you needed, together with their bio etc. Everything in once place was easier and quicker to navigate.

Having to zoom in on an image to see at correct size - it was better before when you just had to click the thumbnail preview in the main gallery to link to the full size. When time and effort have been spent creating the image I want people to be able to see it as it was intended. I would be interested to see how many people bother to zoom in - too many clicks to get to an image as it is intended - why?

Avatar space - is it really necessary to have these all over the place - it's ok in forums but why at the top of the image?

Comment space - I preferred the comment layout we had before - it was nice and quick to read ( again, why do we really need avatar space here? ) .

Stats,stats,stats - why do we need to see how many images the artist has and when the last one was uploaded. Generally, too many stats - have members really requested all this info? Too much information for just wanting to view or show an image in my mind. Maybe that should just be on the artist's homepage or something.

I know the Rendro team must have put alot of work into doing all this, and I know sometimes it takes a while to get use to change, but I really can't see the benefit of some of the changes. Can anyone enlighten me? If I have got any info wrong above, please someone set me straight.

Having said all that, I do still love this site and the community and appreciate the fact that the site is free. I feel though that the overall look is not as inviting as before, and I really hope that that does not deter others from joining or put current members off - that would be a shame. That was what set the site apart from some of the other large art sites that I have been too. If I would have just come across the site now, I wonder if I would have taken much notice of it or been very tempted to join.

I do hope the admins take some note of the complaints about the galleries from members, and maybe one or two changes could be made.

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It's a bit confusing at the moment, there are different logins, it seems. Sometimes I had to log in several times (at excalibur and now there is another one: camelot). Finally what seems to work fine is: http://www.renderosity.com/login.php then click on the Galleries link in top navigation. At least this worked fine for me. I didn't have to log in for the forum seperately.

Le cinéma substitue à notre regard un monde qui s'accorde à nos désirs. - André Bazin

I have been trying upload to the gallery but I am getting an error message and it won't upload the picture just the description.

It is within the size, is anyone else having problems.

thanks,

Beth

Hi,

Regarding the changes:

The 3 step viewing, thumb to in between to full size really stinks. Please revert to going from thumb direct to fullsize !!
It appears I can no longer provide people with external links to my own gallery on R'osity - please fix this as soon as possible !!

bye

Dave

The Meaning and Purpose of Life is to give Life Purpose and Meaning. http://website.lineone.net/~dave_makin/

Still get no ebots and apparently no one gets ebots for my work and now my gallery says i only have 1 image after 3 years of posting,,instead of hundreds of people viewing my work i get a half dozen now.and there is no way to even get to my profile...... it took me a half hour just to find the gallery again....This place is kaos... in the newsletter they all act like everthing is just perfect out in the new gallery...no warning of what might be expected ,,,just adds for the store and a big pat on their own back..Sorry i am just telling like it is... and from this end nothing is working correctly yet....and the one thing i really dislike the most is the report button..if the prudes werent bad enough lets make it easier to make trouble and turn everyone into moderators..Ridiculous!needless to say i dont like the new site at all..but will stick it out to see what happens..

I can't even see my own images even tho someone sent me a reply to it. I don't have a clue what I am doing wrong

Quote - 2. It appears I can no longer provide people with external links to my own gallery on R'osity - please fix this as soon as possible !!

Apologies - make my complaint that the details of how to link to someone's gallery should be in a separate box like it used to be and not hidden in the rest of the mostly useless information in tiny text !

The Meaning and Purpose of Life is to give Life Purpose and Meaning. http://website.lineone.net/~dave_makin/

O.K. now i did get an ebot but it was from the marketplace telling me someone viewed my image and i did get an ebot from this forum..Things are looking up!

I don´t get any ebots. Please can this be fixed soon.

Make sure you have put your settings in your profile to receive ebots. Ebots are now working

Next problem to fix then is the ability to update "Gallery Subscriptions" I had no idea what I thought they were for but I certainly didn't expect it to be a notice for every single picture uploaded by everyone.

The problem is that you at least I can't make the changes to unsubscribe and save those changes. It reverts back each and every time to what was selected.

Yes they are working now. Just received 1 ebot he he. I am very happy again and thank you.

Yes they are working on the subscription saving issue

I know it's hard to except change sometimes and I'm realy trying to get used to the new galleries but my opinion so far is "arrrrrrgh!" I tried to upload an image last night 5 times and could not ever get it to go thru, so I posted at another site, so there new gallery, take that (poke, poke).

Maybe I'll have time this weekend to figure this thing out, lol.

Ebot ARE working ..and when i get Ebot hahahaha everybody should GET em ...

But one little thing left well euh 2

1 i did some gallery subscription... and i dont want them anymore BUT i can delete "uncheck" em all

but always 1 remains ..clearing em all does not work... when i try to uncheck um all nothing happens

when i leave on the rest goes unchecked.. thats a strange little propblem :}

2 please please can you stop the cropping of the images in the gallery's...

You "stacey" wrote that the changes where made with members wishes in mind "by yearly poll"

But please do R'o a favor make a good poll .. must the cropped "preview STAY or GO..

I cant see any benefit to the speed of the site or traffic to keep it when "nobody" wants it.

If the poll says STAY well then the people spoke and the rest have to accept it...

the rest of the gallery is just getting used to..

Thnx for reading my bla bla bla again

Chris

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I'm getting ebots for comments now.

I'm getting ebots for forum posts.

But I'm still not getting ebots from my favorite artists. I checked my options, they're set to receive ebots when a favorite uploads a new image. I haven't changed any settings.

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

My gallery My freestuff

I'm the same as svdl, getting e-bots for comments but nothing from fav artistis uploads - hope it's going to be fixed soon along with the links to artistis homepage

On a brighter note, I think I can actually get to like these new galleries, thanks for all your hard work :)

Ditto on the ebots. I get them for forum, gallery feedback, and being added to someone's favorites, but I don't get it for seeing my favorite artists uploading new images. My profile indicates I should get them for that too.

And yeah, I do like the general look of the new galleries -- EXCEPT for the 700px resize, but I've bludgeoned that subject in another thread.

You not gonna believe this, after WEEKS getting nothing i get the favo Ebots aswell now...

Im gonna sit very still in a dark corner .. otherwise it may go wrong again hehehehe...

Chris

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Congratulations!!!! I really love it! :)

What do you love, Mel ? :p

Wow, the new gallery format is atrocious. I dont know why they went and changed it when nothing was wrong with it. All the links were easy to find and you could get to where you wanted to go. Everything seems illogically spread out now. The default color / menu scheme could use and easy edit feature like it used to have in your profile so it can be moved and colored to your liking... Needless to say Im not a happy camper.

Hello Stacey, I realise you are being inundated with comments, suggestions, complaints and questions and I appreciate how hard this must be. It might have been a good idea to have had a list of known problems and progress status for each of the issues with an estimated completion date, this would have reduced the amount of posts here and cleared up much of the confusion. A check-list like this would have reduced your headache while keeping us informed and up-to-date.

Many of us post because we are uncertain if a particular issue is unique to us - it's not so bad if everyone is experiencing the same problem. I have been trying to establish why my favourite artists and images have gone from my homepage along with my photo and I'm trying to find out if they will return? The thumbnail for my freestuff Item has also vanished from my homepage. If I knew that eveyone had the same problem I wouldn't have been so concerened.

As it is there are so many threads and posts to wade through and it can be very confusing. I don't think anyone expected the transformation to have gone without a hitch - 'the best laid plans' and all that but I do think that this has been handled poorly and a better structure for keeping up informed would have eased your (Renderosity's) burden and reduced our frustration.

[Quote]:

"If the new site causes you issues, post em! Be as comprehensive as you can. Everything you can give back based on this new design, will enable the developers to create a more efficient space!"

[/Quote]

Actually, that is what is happening. There are a couple of posts that are pure negativism, but many of us really want to help make the galleries (forums, marketplace, whatever) better.

The problem is that most of the suggestions are ignored. I still cannot see why some universally supported requests are not implemented, while other features - that we do NOT want - are diligently worked upon. Case in point: the automatic resizing of images.

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

My gallery My freestuff

I get ebots now from the forum and get ebots from people who has comment

on my art but, still I don´t get ebots from my favorite artists uploading new images

I'm having the same ebot problem as other people have posted here. Get them for the forum posts, for the marketplace, but none for fave artists. I found my fave artist list (which was no easy task) and sure enough, people have uploaded new images. Who knows what I'm missing! I can't find how you get to your personal gallery either anymore, not without going to the link that says "old front page". How do you do it from the new front page? I just can't find a way to get to my gallery or my homepage, etc. And will a feature be implimented to move the menu from the right side of the page to the left?

What do you write in the field marked "where to place image within notes' on the upload page, and do we still have a homepage - I can't see the page where members can IM me?

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I did get one favorite artist ebot mailing Friday night, but just one. From checking the galleries, I see I should have had some since. So, maybe it's just working intermittantly?

IO4... the only way I can figure out how to get to my home page is to click on the link that says "old front page" on the right hand side. Then you'll have the drop down boxes where you can select your gallery, homepage, etc. I haven't yet figured out how to do it on the new front page.

Well, I'm finally able to get into my fave artist section on my homepage, and I see that Primaltruck had infact uploaded his latest image around 12:15 am today. So, I should have gotten an ebot if they were fixed yesterday afteroon, but I did not get one. =(

It´s easy to find your galleries. Just go to gallery and on top you will see this.

[galleries] [art charts] [archives] [search] [upload] [my summary] [my options] [my favorites] [my gallery

Click on your gallery and there you are.

Ah, thanks lunaE. I somehow missed that. TYVM!

Arghhhhhh!Captain ,there is talk of mutony on the good ship rendorosity...you must get the crews respect back or they are going to skuttle the ship and take prisoners...Sorry its early saturday morning...and i really am a pirate...

Ebots--->I am only receiving them from the forums, my last favorites ebot was 6/12. I am reading each page as it comes to the forum so I don't repeat what someone may have asked.

I did go to my profile, it is checked YES to receive email / newsletters / announcements from renderosity.

Is there another area I need to go?

Namaste...it's universal [ =

We are working on this Dinhi. They were working then stopped.urrggghhhh:)

I cannot image the difficulty, thank you for all of your hard work! (=

Namaste...it's universal [ =

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THIS IS WHAT I SEE 8 OUT OF 10 TIMES This was on the NEW site chamelotingy server should be named SHAMEALOT :} Chris

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You have been getting this today Bar? I actually haven't gotten any errors (knock on wood) for over 24 hours now.

Yep just 10 minutes ago.... { but i get this all the time } <== EDIT

I thought ill copy past it maybe the sleep hungery programmers can do something with it..

But if you wanna know more .thats gonna be one other day..im going to bed now 2.45 AM here..

Good luck with the shameAlot server "evilgrinn"

Chris

PS does you family still know your alive ? or are you locked up in the R'O dungeons too :}

...yep im outta here ... have a nice day you all...

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ok, I'm not gonna complain about ebots or the site, got my two cents in a while ago.... what I want to know, is there anyone that knows why they arent working? I did some research into the problem and found that if someone makes a new account, they get bots for favorites and such, but if you made an account before the change, for some reason they don't work. Maybe it's just me and I got lucky, but my current account isn't receiving bots for anything and the new one is.

News Flash!!! Ripping Alert!!!!

Renderosity ripped off the Full-View scripts of DeviantArt and put it in here. Including a DeviantGallery script (for Firefox) that can show minor info of the artwork you're viewing in a member's gallery.

I'm a member of both DeviantArt and this site and I've never seen a ripped script like this off another site from the original site.

DevianArt is the original site to code the Full-View script and a member there created the Firefox script for the DeviantGallery script.

If you guys don't believe me, take a look at these screenshots of both of my galleries here at Renderosity and DeviantArt.

I'm sorry I have to do this but's the only way to get proof and evidence.

Ummmmm no we didn't. And I would know. That script came legally and free from a Javascript Toolkit site and then was substantially modified to fit Renderosity's purpose. Not once was deviantART's code ever looked at. Sorry to shoot you down, man. Please don't post about things you don't know about. N

-Nicholas

Please do not post these types of things in this forum. If you truly have a copyright concern it needs to be sent to copyrights@renderosity.com or posted in our Copyright forum. This is not the appropriate forum for an alleged copyright concern. This post looks to me to be a "stirring the pot" post and if this continues in this forum, your posts will be removed.

Sincerely,

WilliamSN - Your little signature IP catcher thingie is wrong, lol. It says I'm using IE6, but I'm using Opera. ;-) Sorry... not trying to be a smart alek or anything, just thought it was kinda funny =D

Yeah Opera has that masking thing. It's really annoying. :tt2: N

-Nicholas

Bwahahahahahah! ;-)

Hi Stacey,

Okay I went away for three days to cool off and wait until a lot of the bugs have been fixed. Today I came back to find that someone had posted a script to turn the gallery pages black with white text. This is a wonderful solution to one of my major headaches. I am also very happy to see that I can click away the large version of the gallery picture.

What I am confused about is why I can't even find my own list of favorite artists and the comments I made about them. When I go to that area that was my community homepage here I find the color of the pages wrong (from my script changes for both the forums and the gallery) and when I click on what appears to be a link to my favorite artists nothing happens. I noticed that the server seems to be called Camelot. Am I to understand that my community homepage is now on a different server? The only reason I wrote comments about my favorite artists was to let other people visiting my homepage know what kind of art each person did and therefore they would click to go visit one of my favorites.

A few days ago I did find a page with my favorites listed-I'm not sure how I got there now-and that was when I was quite upset with the tiny size of the font because I couldn't hardly differentiate the name of the favorite artist and my comment that I wrote about them.

The picture on my homepage is also gone. Am I to understand that this another part of renderosity is in the middle of being changed?

The speed of the galleries and the forums is back up to normal-at least for only having between 700 and 800 visitors according to the number at the top of the page, right now at 1:30 a.m. California Pacific Coast Time zone. It's a nice speed but we'll see how that goes a when there are more visitors during the more normal hours. I would think that people in Europe would be online now. If the numbers stay down I can only think that it's because many of the members aren't visiting anymore, but that's hard to say.

My major concerns at this point are to find out what happened to my homepage, and to find a way to increase the text size that I still cannot hardly read in the galleries.

I do miss the simple ability to see the number of comments for an image in my gallery under the thumbnail. I have not trying to upload since this is all changed so I can't stay to the ability to easily select all marketplace merchant to give a credit link-but if it's not like before where there was a drop down and I can hit a key on my keyboard to at least get in the right area alphabetically I'm afraid I will not be very motivated to put in the links. I have physical disabilities that make it very difficult for me to negotiate with a lot of arm and hand movements, and I can no longer type a great deal. I rely on the trackball mouse, and speech to text software. I bring this up because I have found out that there are a lot of people with vision and physical disabilities trying to use this community also.

I am sorry that I got so extremely upset. I just think it isn't fair to force the user's to fix the problems (i.e. find and create scripts instead having some way to choose them within the forum's own coding) of a major web site. I really am trying to stay apart of this community, it's just so difficult instead of being an easy pleasurable experience.

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

Okay I have gone through the experience of uploading an image to the gallery. Because I had to use the script created by somebody else for your web site apparently I cannot see the list of merchants. It seems to be white on white and unless I put my cursor in the area of where a word must be so that it sort of highlights I can't see anything to choose. This is certainly not the fault of the script Creator, there are just too many areas of colors and fonts etc. for someone to write the perfect script. And since I have no other place to get a script then it appears that for the script I have chosen to use your merchants will not get credit links.

I've also done some searching around to find out what all those things are at the top of my gallery. The statistics seemed utterly useless and silly to me. Can the general public see these statistics as well? I would think that they should better remain private.

I found a link to my gallery so that I can then send a shortcut to my desktop that will have the proper URL.

I do think there is an awful lot of things to fill in just to upload an image. I do not do art that contains a violence or nudity but now I'm prevented from uploading unless I say none in that field. I suppose this is for all the people who have been forgetting to flag their nudity images, but for me it's just an additional thing that I have to remember. On the whole uploading is a much more complicated process now.

By the way in writing this post I am using the default size font instead of even selecting "small" and still when I get to the end of his sentence I can't see it-it's below the bottom scrollbar for a while. I don't even know why there's a horizontal scrollbar in the field? Why is the field that I am typing into not large enough for your own default size font? Why do I have to use a horizontal scrollbar to see my own words as I type them in? Can't your programmers make the posting field larger horizontally? The field above where someone has already posted is twice the size. Eidting is a real headache!!!

PS is there still a site wide slow down? When clicking from my e-mail notice to come back here even for an image posted today it takes forever suddenly, and even to open the large version of the image takes a long time. They are still under a thousand visitors according to yours to statistics.

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

The ebots are working again. So glad that they solved the problem.

Thank you all.

Lyne,

Please read the information in the FAQ in this Forum it might help answer some of your questions.

The homepage will be converting sometime early next week.

The information on your Summary page is just for you, no one else sees that. On this page at the bottom you will also find the new URL to your gallery.

You get to your Favorites by clicking the MY FAVORITES link.

Thanks

There is some good news, at least.

Line breaks in comments are possible again. Thanks! Now I can separate my comments into paragraphs, something that I really missed since HTML got disabled in the comment box.

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

My gallery My freestuff

Still no ebots for me =(

I can only echo what practically everybody is saying about the cropping of the images once you have clicked on a thumpnail. Please revert to the old mode.

Reasons: The cropping destroys the visual impact of the very first view. Until last week all you saw was a little thumpnail that gave you an idea of the actiual image and made you curious. One click and you had the image in its entire glory on your big screen - we all tend to buy big screens because we love to have our images large, right? Now you get an inferior preview of the entire image and the initial chance to give a good impression is squandered.

I also prefer to scroll up and down between the large image in all it's glory and the comments. I prefer the image to cover my entire screen and to read comments by using my mousewheel. Now I can't do that any more. I get an inferior shadow of the real thing and below comments with distracting avatars. If I want to look at the real picture in it's intended size I have to click and scroll between different view windows.

That's a huge step back in terms of user friendliness and the joy of browsing galleries.

I also don't like the bombardment with unwanted info junk once I move my cursor ocross thumpnails. It's simply the opposite of relaxation.

I also hope that once you have fixed everything Renderosity will bother to implement my time-tested color-setting. I spend one or two hours with CSS to rectify the color changes in the gallery. However, Renderosity doesn't apply any color settings of mine to my new home page. My new home page also doesn't contain any of my inages, no gallery images and no text of mine. My old home page still has allt this, apart from the fact that it doesn't contain any images any more!

Summing up: I have no community home page any more, I have horrible color settings I can't even change, gallery use is annoying through cropped views - oh yes, and browsing is impssible for all practical purposes because the site takes forever to display anything.

I hope the speed issues will be resolved soon, but what about the rest?

How will this be rectified? Do I have to rebuild my community homepage as a result of these "improvements"?

Thanks,

Lookoo

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2653206

Lookoo, StaceyG has posted about the resizing issues at the above link :) Also, the homepage will be restored once the conversion is completed.

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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Well, I got another ebot, and I posted a comment, but it's not showig up. I try to comment again and get this message: "You have already commented on this image and cannot comment twice." Sigh

On ebots, I'm getting them consistently for forums and for receiving comments, but not for new images by favorite artists. Strangely, I'm getting them for some of the artists, but only a modest fraction. A quick scan of some of their galleries (RGUS, awadissk, etc.) shows they have been posting, but I have not received any notices for their images, even though they are still listed on my Favorite Artists page.

So, while the ebot notifications are back on and working, they're not 100%. Let me know if there's any details I can provide to help track this down.

I seen there was new post in this thread and clicked on page 7 but only seen this reply box. When back to page 6 but there were no new post. Then I click on page 7 again 25 old post and 4 new post. I have seen this happen more then once where clicking on the last page will not bring up any post and only the reply box.

Not only that but when I posted the post above it showed up on page 7 but I seen a 8 so after looking at page 8 I see only one post and it is the post above that is now on page 8.

well, I've recieved bots for about 50% of my usual favorites, but my second "test" account didn't get some of the ones that my current account is getting. But at least it's starting to look up, so I can't complain too much, I;m jsut glad that the problem is being looked at. However, on a side note (or this may be totally off topic), what do we do about our statistics? Mine says I have nothing uploaded since I joined in 2000. Is this just a temporary thing becuase of the change over? It's not a big deal, I'm just picky that way :P Thanks for the work so far.

Yes, the stats are in 'temp mode'..once the complete conversion is finished, all will be well

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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woo hoo, sweet, thanks for the quick reply.

The popup info box for each gallery image is by far the most annoying and worthless "feature" I have ever encountered on any forum! I found that if I disable Javascript in my Firefox browser, it goes away, but then I also lose the ability to enlarge/zoom an image. It detracts from the whole gallery experience and tells me nothing I need or want to know.

Please tell me that someone will reconsider that "feature" and give us the option to disable it.

www.lingriffin.com

Heya Lingrif,
I can ask about this for ya...cant promise anything, but I can def. ask :)

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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I'd sure appreciate that! :-)

www.lingriffin.com

I can see that a lot of people don't like the popup, but the reason why escapes me completely (apart from those suffering the 'flashing' incompatability with IE image tools).

There is a good half-second delay between cursor-thumbnail first contact and popup display. This means you can move your mouse all over the screen without it coming up. It also means that you can click on a thumbnail and open the image display page without seeing the popup. If the popup does display, it goes off the instant the cursor is moved off the thumbnail. It even goes off automatically after a short period should you suddenly lose the ability to control your mouse. And when you do want to see the popup, you can position it away from the image.

Are some folks browsing the thumbs by moving their cursor over them as they go, or something; like a kid reading? I mean, I have the hand-eye coordination of a window impacted bird, and I can look through the thumbnail pages without seeing the popup at all. It's not even a conscious effort - I've always kept the cursor away from the thumb because I don't like the silly pointy-hand thing stuck in front.

Now I'll admit that the popup contains way more information than my needs (I'm only vaguely interested in dimensions and image size), but it's pretty easy to just not read the rest.

So come on, someone explain to me what the big deal with the popup is.

I completely agree, PJF, and can't understand all the commotion over it either. I've actually come to like it.

There is now an option to not display the popup, so everyone should be happy. Well, I suppose some people might start complaining about the sudden lack of image information... ;-)

I'm thrilled with the option! Thanks so much.

Lin

www.lingriffin.com

Quote - Are some folks browsing the thumbs by moving their cursor over them as they go, or something; like a kid reading? I mean, I have the hand-eye coordination of a window impacted bird, and I can look through the thumbnail pages without seeing the popup at all...
...I've always kept the cursor away from the thumb because I don't like the silly pointy-hand thing stuck in front.

LOLOL!!!

Adding a thank you for the new galleries. Just uploaded something today and was thrilled to be able to choose to 'resize' or not. I figure, if people like the smaller version enough, they'll click the biggie. ;)

Also... FINALLY I can preview everything before upping it to the gallery! Rendo RULES!

This thread is becoming impossible to read! :( So many changes, so many complaints, and so much of it has been addressed, it is impossible to find out what still needs to be fixed, what is being addressed, and when will it all be concluded!

Things I still find needing to be addressed/fixed:

I use to be able to go to another Members Homepage and see their Favorite Artists & Images. Will this be back as it was with their Profile & Bio?????

Since I am not buying anything from Renderosity until this conversion is completed (my way of boycoting the whole affair), when will this be????? Lots of promisses to get things fixed, but I see no completion date on when it will be!

On an up note, I am happy with what has been done, and the speed in which it is being done! I don't expect things to be perfect, but it would be nice when all the confussion disappears! ;)

Hey... I didn't realize I couldn't browse people's favorites anymore. : ( Maybe because I spent too much time poking around all the new changes.

I can't quite remember how things were before, but in the past, were we not given options to:

visit a member's homepage,
view their gallery, AND
send an IM

simply by clicking their username anywhere throughout the site? I could have sworn that there were (at least) 3 such links that appeared if you clicked someone's name... Could be mistaken...

AnyHOO, I would like to minimze some hunting around with these possibilities. Maybe I'm just lazy. lol

Forum: Community Center

Subject: New Galleries are here!!!