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Subject: New galleries stats are wrong...

fran_joel opened this issue on Jun 15, 2006 · 20 posts


fran_joel posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 12:17 PM

I noticed that some of the hits (views) did not register or disappeared in the new gallery. Namely the hits that occurred roughly between June 12 and June 13 ...

For example, an image posted on June 12, that had a certain number of hits, reverted to 0 views in the new gallery and then started counting up again from zero. Why is that ?

Also, the number of images per artist as shown in the header of the personal galleries has resetted to 0 on June 14... ???

Shouldn't it have been carried over from the old gallery ?


StaceyG posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 2:23 PM

Unfortunately anything uploaded between the date of June 1st through June 12th won't have the views counted that happened during that time. There was no other way around this except for bringing the entire galleries down for 12 days.

 

And the number of images per artist is tallied correctly in the new galleries, are you seeing this on a URL that is the .ez?  All those stats were brought over and I went and checked random artist galleries and I'm seeing those totals. Maybe I am misunderstanding this so please let me know if I am.. My head is a little jumbled with all the things going on lately, LOL

 

Thanks


BAR-CODE posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:04 PM

Stacey wrote:

And the number of images per artist is tallied correctly in the new galleries

i dont know the word " tallied " but does this mean counted ?

If so then i think there is something strange in my gallery ... it says in the stats i have uploaded 1 image... so far since i took this name ...clearly that can be right... but all the rest of the stats seems to be calculated from that 1 image.. so there is a error somewere

The stats in MY gallery are totaly wrong ..sorry but its true...

Chris

 

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StaceyG posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:07 PM

I'll take a look at your gallery Bar but the random ones I checked looked fine. I'll let you know.


BAR-CODE posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:10 PM

mmm so you CAN get to the gallery's ?

only thing i get is a can't connect page  with errors

Same thing for the R'o main site ...

Chris

 

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StaceyG posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:12 PM

I meant when the server issues are resolved and I can get to the galleries Bar. Didn't mean I was running over there now, LOL


BAR-CODE posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:17 PM

and one more thing .. that i repley here now is NOT that i GOT a Ebot in the mail about you repleying here ..

I have to stay in the forum and refresh the screen to see that you did..

That was the same when WE talked true site mail... i have to stay ON the page to get the mails

But hopefully the site mails is oke now ...but nobody wanna talk to me anymore i think :{

Cheersss

Chris

 

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fran_joel posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:46 PM

Quote :If so then i think there is something strange in my gallery ... it says in the stats i have uploaded 1 image... so far since i took this name ...clearly that can be right..

I have the very same thing happening in my gallery. This shows up (the 1 image thing)  when an image is previewed at the top next to my avatar...

 

??


StaceyG posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:50 PM

Yep I just checked both of your galleries and that is what it says. I promise (I know you guys think I'm crazy) but I checked a random few and the counts were correct, Nicholas was even standing over my shoulder when checking one of them, LOL.. But I have let him know about this:) Thanks for reporting and sorry it took me a minute to see.


BAR-CODE posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 4:50 PM

My gallery shows my last 6 image and the very last on so 7 in total but euhmmm it calls it ONE image :}

Kewl a computer that can't count... on the other end 0 and 1 is binary so much further then 1 is difficult for something that knows only 1 and 0 ....

 

Chris

 

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tainted_heart posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 6:48 PM

Quote - Unfortunately anything uploaded between the date of June 1st through June 12th won't have the views counted that happened during that time. There was no other way around this except for bringing the entire galleries down for 12 days.

Now I know why my latest image Don't Ask Alice had only 59 views in the last 10 days since June 5, when I average at least several hundred views for an image 10 days old. The view count is not accurate!

I am very disappointed with this. On June 9 I posted a question to Karen1573 in this thread asking if the image view counts would continue to be tallied during the conversion. On June 10 Karen1573 responded that she believed that would be the case. I then posted a request that she verify this with the programmers, and she posted a request to the programmers. On June 11 Karen1573 responded in the thread the following"

Quote - Here is the reply:

Yes they will.  The counts will all be correct and comment counts...Its almost like its "hidden" but still will tally anything that occurs since they "hide" it.

Now I'm finding out, based on StacyG's post in this thread, that is not the case. The views have not been tallied and retained for any image uploaded to the galleries between June 1 and June 12. I'm find in unconscionable that this was not announced or made clear. Many of us use the view counts to determine the success of an image or technique we used. Had we known the view counts were not tallied during that period members could have chosen to upload or wait until the conversion was completed.

I am also extemely disappointed that programmers gave Karen1573 misinformation. She does an outstanding job, but not having factual information from programmers makes her job that much harder and erodes our confidence in the information we receive! 

It's all fun and games...
Until the flying monkeys attack!!! 


StaceyG posted Thu, 15 June 2006 at 6:59 PM

The info given to us by the programmer was what he understood was the case. We are all human and at times misunderstand a process or can't foresee that what we thought was happening wasn't.  Sometimes there are just things beyond any humans control that is not realized until after the fact and on this, that is the case. We apologize for the inconvenience and the blame is not to be placed on any one person but a system issue.

 

Thanks


fran_joel posted Mon, 19 June 2006 at 10:59 PM

So... ?

It is now June 20th and my gallery stats are still completely messed up...

Can you provide an update on the subject please ?


MoeGoofie posted Mon, 19 June 2006 at 11:34 PM

Forgive my ignorance 'cause i'm known for being ignorant, but what real point do gallery stats even matter? I mean, it's neato that people dig my stuff, but they're just a bunch of stats of numbers that really don't make my retirement fund increase or the price of gas go down.

i think it's rather silly that R'osity even offers "stats". If anything do you think the programmers can offer a switch to turn them off. I mean, after all, I'd rather be able to find my missing "home page" rather than see the average number of pageviews.

Am I making any kind of sense?

"To pass your plate is nothing new." - MG


Jumpstartme2 posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 12:11 AM

Quote - or the price of gas go down.

I dont think 'anything' will get the price of gas to go down LOL

Also, as far as the homepage issue, that will be returning as soon as they are converted over.. ;)

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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fran_joel posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 6:51 AM

Quote

*Forgive my ignorance 'cause i'm known for being ignorant, but what real point do gallery stats even matter? I mean, it's neato that people dig my stuff, but they're just a bunch of stats of numbers that really don't make my retirement fund increase or the price of gas go down.

i think it's rather silly that R'osity even offers "stats". If anything do you think the programmers can offer a switch to turn them off. I mean, after all, I'd rather be able to find my missing "home page" rather than see the average number of pageviews.

Am I making any kind of sense?*

You do make sense, in the sense that you don't care. So why did you post here in the first place ?

Renderosity's site boasts features that don't work, (this stat thing is one of them).  The choice is either to fix the feature or remove it. So I repeat the question :

Is there an update available on the status of this problem ?


MoeGoofie posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 8:50 AM

Well, I do see your point.

Give the programmers a break. I'm sure they're currently working to resolve it. With this thread "New Galleries Stats are Wrong" I'm sure you've alerted them to the problem. Keep in mind one thing however, since I know you don't pay their salaries, when it's updated, you'll probably be the FIRST to know.

Sheesh.

"To pass your plate is nothing new." - MG


fran_joel posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 9:42 AM

I see your point too but don't get me wrong... I'm not complaining. I just want a plain old update. Is that too much to ask for...


williamsn posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 10:00 AM

Yes, we will be running a script to fix the gallery stats. Unfortunately, one thing at a time. We have to get the image resizing fixed first. N

-Nicholas


fran_joel posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 10:25 AM

Thank you Williamsn !