Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Missing objects and background portions in Firefly render

Boni opened this issue on Jun 20, 2006 · 12 posts


Boni posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 6:54 PM

Okay, to the point. 

  1. I had a hair model in Poser ... Adrianna hair from "free stuff" and  durring the first renders it was fine .... then portions disappeared in the render.  (I checked to make sure that the visible was on and that the hair parts were positioned properly to be seen)  I'm confused, been using Poser since version 3 and never had this problem before.  Oh, I'm in P6.

  2. When I render a firefly render (Same scene) the background doesn't show on all sides.  The image is set to fit to background image.  This again only happens in firefly.  I know I can use a square prop and past the background image on it and place it in the background to not recieve shadows and all.  But I want to understand why it does this. 

Thanks for all of your  help.

Boni

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Boni posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 7:18 PM

Here is the first one with the hair.  The render is in the P4 render engine, but it does the same in Firefly.

Boni



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Boni posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 7:20 PM

And this one is the background with Firefly.  Notice the far sides have no backgroud behind the pillars.

Boni



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Tyger_purr posted Tue, 20 June 2006 at 8:07 PM

If i recall correctly the background not filling in is caused by your 'max texture size' set smaller than your background image size.

as for the hair, i'm not sure.

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Gora posted Wed, 21 June 2006 at 10:03 AM

a few months ago, I had a similar issue with P6, also a multi figure image, with background etc... it was rendering right up untill the bottom right hand corner, and stopping and leaving a grey blocky area.... Im not 100% on this this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with memory.

Perhaps save the project, then start removing small props and items from the scene, and doing small quick renders to see if this solves the problem....

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Boni posted Wed, 21 June 2006 at 6:10 PM

Tyger-Purr.  I thought about  the background size and made sure that the image size matched, so thank you, but unfortunately that was not it.

Gora.  You might have it right there.  I was getting a lot of memory problems.  I even upgraded my system to a 3.8 ghz/ 1 gb ram system to avoid this.  But I guess that wasn't enough.  sigh.

Thanks all.  :m_letdown:  Back to the "drawing board".

Boni

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Boni posted Wed, 21 June 2006 at 10:17 PM

Attached Link: Hier To The Throne

Thought you would all like to see the finished piece. :) Boni

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Tyger_purr posted Wed, 21 June 2006 at 10:36 PM

so what was the fix... or workaround?

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Boni posted Wed, 21 June 2006 at 10:44 PM

Different  hair piece worked ... and I used Photoshop CS2 and superimposed the P4 render under the Firefly render and  erased the areas where the background didn't come through and braught it through  from the P4.  I also tweeked the odd head shape I got in the boy and fixed the arm pit in the Queen.  I  love the Ambient light  in P6 ... I am happy with the final piece.  I also moved the boy and the plant in opposite positions.  The piece made much more sence that way.  Thanks for the help all.

Boni

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Gora posted Thu, 22 June 2006 at 1:48 AM

When I discovered it may have been memory issues with my pc, I opted to try optimise my OS, a little and try free up some resources, as upgading wasnt really an option for me at the time....

Im not sure what OS youre using, but Im guessing its probably XP? In my administartive tasks, in the control panel, I started by disabling a lot of common (useless) tasks that are by default enabled... for me that included print spooling, reporrting error messages etc....
Next I installed a fab little application (dowload is free). Sits in your taskbar permanently, but takes up little or no memory. You can set it to refresh a specified amount of memory every X amount of minutes. XP doesnt flush your system memory very well, so gradually it gets used up. This app retrieves it for you.... Which is great when youre doing renders of this amplitude....

I hope this helps you, as I quite understand your frustration.... Heres the link to the download...

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,7604,00.asp

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always lands butter-side down, and cats always land on their feet, what
happens if you strap toast on the back of a cat and drop it?"

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Boni posted Thu, 22 June 2006 at 1:21 PM

Gora,  Thank you so much for the tip.  I will definately download that little gem.  You are a gem as well.  :)

Boni

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Gora posted Fri, 23 June 2006 at 2:29 AM

you are most welcome  

"If toast
always lands butter-side down, and cats always land on their feet, what
happens if you strap toast on the back of a cat and drop it?"

Steven Wright