zollster opened this issue on Jul 12, 2006 · 54 posts
zollster posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 9:06 PM
estherau posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 9:11 PM
zollster posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 9:19 PM
Attached Link: http://www.e-frontier.com/go/poser6/sr3news
umm.... i did add a link in my 1st post.....honest :DDave-So posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 9:26 PM
its already downloading a bit slow...60kbs...
I'm not sure I've ever seen the problems addressed with the release...but in it goes :)
Humankind has not
woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle,
1854
bevans84 posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 9:32 PM
Tablet support is much better.
drifterlee posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 10:11 PM
I just installed it. Will it help with Poser 6 memory problems?
zollster posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 10:25 PM
Tyger_purr posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 10:39 PM
Quote - I just installed it. Will it help with Poser 6 memory problems?
the read-me says they fixed several memory problems....although they may not be the memory problems your having troulbe with.
My Homepage - Free stuff and Galleries
infinity10 posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 10:51 PM
The manual has also been updated, so grab that as well.
Eternal Hobbyist
duanemoody posted Wed, 12 July 2006 at 11:50 PM
Now let's see them fix the problem with downloads continuously choking regardless of browser. BTW guys, this would be less annoying if your server supported resuming downloads at the breakpoint.
Acadia posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 2:43 AM
Ugh, sorry I didn't see this post before I posted mine :( Before I logged out I marked all forums read and when I came back there were only 2 threads showing unread, and this wasn't one of them.
A moderator can delete the thread I created :)
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
vince3 posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 3:56 AM
cool!!! thanks for that!!! the last service release was a huge fix!!!!!!! so hopefully this one is a good one!!!!! but i haven't really had any issues with poser since the last one!!!!!!
dbowers22 posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 4:12 AM
Quote - cool!!! thanks for that!!! the last service release was a huge fix!!!!!!! so hopefully this one is a good one!!!!! but i haven't really had any issues with poser since the last one!!!!!!
Haven't had any problem either. Hope this one doesn't create problems.
Hate to have to do a re-install to get back to SR2.
vince3 posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 4:26 AM
agreed!!!!!!!!
tainted_heart posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 4:49 AM
Quote - The manual has also been updated, so grab that as well.
Do you mean the Tutorial Manual? I didn't see any other manual listed there.
It's all fun and games...
Until the flying monkeys attack!!!
Gareee posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 7:12 AM
Seems not a whole lot of changes since the last release, and a long time between releases.
Still, it's good to see them working on poser again. Haven;t heard a peep from them about P7 or updates in like 9 months!
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Darboshanski posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 7:55 AM
I haven't experienced any of the problems listed as fixes in this release. I use a wacom tablet and haven't any troubles either. I don't use the cloth room at all as a matter of fact if the cloth room and face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine.
I too hope that this SR3 release does not cause troubles down the line and as far as P7? I haven't heard a thing myself.
Cheers,
Micheál
electronicpakrat posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 8:14 AM
Quote - Haven't heard a peep from them about P7 or updates in like 9 months!
Yet out of the blue...come Siggraph they'll immediately start selling Poser 7 at CP (and the patching process will begin anew).
dbowers22 posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 8:22 AM
Quote - I haven't experienced any of the problems listed as fixes in this release. I use a wacom tablet and haven't any troubles either. I don't use the cloth room at all as a matter of fact if the cloth room and face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine.
I too hope that this SR3 release does not cause troubles down the line and as far as P7? I haven't heard a thing myself.
Cheers,
Micheál
I'd scream bloody murder if they got rid of the cloth room.
I hardly ever use conforming clothes anymore. Dynamic
clothes just look and move so much more naturally.
Darboshanski posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 8:30 AM
Quote - > Quote - I haven't experienced any of the problems listed as fixes in this release. I use a wacom tablet and haven't any troubles either. I don't use the cloth room at all as a matter of fact if the cloth room and face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine.
I too hope that this SR3 release does not cause troubles down the line and as far as P7? I haven't heard a thing myself.
Cheers,
MicheálI'd scream bloody murder if they got rid of the cloth room.
I hardly ever use conforming clothes anymore. Dynamic
clothes just look and move so much more naturally.
Heheh....sorry mate....okay then, "if the face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine."....better??
Cheers,
Micheál
-Timberwolf- posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 9:35 AM
Sigh,Background pictures still doesn't auto fit to rendersize.They do fit to preview and Poser4, but not when rendering in Firefly mode.I wonder when this will be fixed.
fuaho posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 10:03 AM
Quote:
Heheh....sorry mate....okay then, "if the face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine."....better??
Cheers,
Micheál
Actually, I'd be totally bummed if they took anything out of Poser. I use the Face Room all the time.
<"))#^#<<
BeyondVR posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 11:16 AM
Quote - Sigh,Background pictures still doesn't auto fit to rendersize.They do fit to preview and Poser4, but not when rendering in Firefly mode.I wonder when this will be fixed.
After setting up your scene, delete the BG pic, save and exit Poser. Reopen and go directly to Render Dimensions. Set the dimensions, THEN load the fullsize BG. Render. It works.
John
-Timberwolf- posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 11:56 AM
@ BeyondVR ,Thank you very much .Yes indeed it works.It's a pity that we allways have to use those little dirty tricks to make Poser do what it should do.
duanemoody posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 12:17 PM
Conclusion: I ended up DLing the update at work (where thanks be, my browser already cached the serial number from the last time I got something off the site). Seriously, if a download chokes, it chokes, but resuming it should be possible. Also, if it's a patch rather than the full application, what's the point of putting it behind a serial authentication? Offhand I can't think of any other apps (big company or small) which require this, unless TPTB at e frontier are trying to track the number of licensed P6 users who still use the application.
Gareee posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 12:20 PM
There are quite a number of other companies that do require logons for updates.. Eon, Newtek, Autodesk.. basically most major 3d application companies.
As long as they save a cookie for their download page, I have no issues at all. The point is to slow the pirates down.
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Miss Nancy posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 1:31 PM
I didn't expect an sr3. perhaps it means they are still seeking a buyer, as they wouldn't waste time on sr3 while they were working on P7.
Tunesy posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 1:41 PM
Very cool. I see nothing to complain about. Thanks, e-frontier.
Acadia posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 2:37 PM
Quote -
I'd scream bloody murder if they got rid of the cloth room.
I hardly ever use conforming clothes anymore. Dynamic
clothes just look and move so much more naturally.
Agreed. Though I still use conforming clothing too, but much prefer dynamic
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
mylemonblue posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 3:25 PM
electronicpakrat:
"Yet out of the blue...come Siggraph they'll immediately start selling Poser 7 at CP (and the patching process will begin anew). "
Siggraph? Now it makes sense. I bet that might have had something to do with the patch release weather or not they have a P7 ready to show. It would be good for them to have all the different rooms in P6 stable by the time of Siggraph. Bill Gates has been embarased a few times and I imagine the guys at e-frontiers would like if at all possible to avoid that.
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
Dave-So posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 3:57 PM
*miss nancy
"*I didn't expect an sr3. perhaps it means they are still seeking a
buyer, as they wouldn't waste time on sr3 while they were working on P7."
buyer for what? Not Poser..they just bought Eovia/Amapi
*mylemonblue
"It would be good for them to have all the different rooms in P6 stable by the time of Siggraph. Bill Gates has been embarased a few times and I imagine the guys at e-frontiers would like if at all possible to avoid that. "
Whaty does Bill Gates have to do with Poser?
Humankind has not
woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle,
1854
mylemonblue posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 4:21 PM
They both make software.
Bill has had his companies(MS) software goof up at showings in front of an audiance once or twice. I imagine with Siggraph coming up e-f would love P6 to be rock solid and not be in the predicament Bill was in.
:biggrin:
By the way I'd love to know if anyone has noticed any changes in the cloth room. I'm kind of dieing to know what others have to report. :D
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
Dave-So posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 4:45 PM
ah...i wasn't reading your sentence correctly..noew I understand what you meant :)
Humankind has not
woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle,
1854
mylemonblue posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 4:50 PM
I can never rule out that perhaps I wrote poorly. :biggrin:
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
Darboshanski posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 5:24 PM
Okay I am assuming, which is something I really hate to do, that most of you that are posting to this thread have installed SR3 and it's running. So what changes have you noticed if any?
Cheers,
Micheál
LostinSpaceman posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 5:37 PM
Quote - > Quote - I haven't experienced any of the problems listed as fixes in this release. I use a wacom tablet and haven't any troubles either. I don't use the cloth room at all as a matter of fact if the cloth room and face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine.
I too hope that this SR3 release does not cause troubles down the line and as far as P7? I haven't heard a thing myself.
Cheers,
MicheálI'd scream bloody murder if they got rid of the cloth room.
I hardly ever use conforming clothes anymore. Dynamic
clothes just look and move so much more naturally.
You me and everyone who just invested in Virtual Fashion would be screaming! I like Dynamic Hair & Clothes! The only people who hate them seem to be people just too afraid to learn how to use them. And teh face room is fantastic for James and Miki!!! Still holding my breath for Koji's Support!
SaintFox posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 8:11 PM
After installing the serial update I have a strange behaviour in the material-room: When saving a material-collection to the library there is no thumbnail anymore while there still appears one when saving a single material. Anyone else whith an error like that?!
I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!
And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!
Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:
The Home Of The Living Dolls
Darboshanski posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 10:15 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I haven't experienced any of the problems listed as fixes in this release. I use a wacom tablet and haven't any troubles either. I don't use the cloth room at all as a matter of fact if the cloth room and face room where ripped out of P6 that would suit me just fine.
I too hope that this SR3 release does not cause troubles down the line and as far as P7? I haven't heard a thing myself.
Cheers,
MicheálI'd scream bloody murder if they got rid of the cloth room.
I hardly ever use conforming clothes anymore. Dynamic
clothes just look and move so much more naturally.
You me and everyone who just invested in Virtual Fashion would be screaming! I like Dynamic Hair & Clothes! The only people who hate them seem to be people just too afraid to learn how to use them. And teh face room is fantastic for James and Miki!!! Still holding my breath for Koji's Support!
I've used the rooms but for what I do I really don't get much use out of them. My goodness such a wee firestorm. I know more people have installed SR3 so since there are really no one posting any results but a few I guess it's not that big an update to be effective. Many on the other forums I visit have said they see no change or have not experienced the problems addressed in the update. Oh well hopfully we shall hear more. IF something don't work in the poser universe it's like the shot heard around the world. If us poser folks were as vocal in politics as we are when it comes to our 3D software when it bites then we'd have a new form of government LOL!!! ah...right.
Cheers,
Micheál
SaintFox posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 11:12 PM
If us poser folks were as vocal in politics as we are when it comes to our 3D software when it bites then we'd have a new form of government LOL!!! ah...right.
I like this, really! :sneaky: Maybe it's a sign that people at least have some hope in the 3D-industries but, well, you know...
It will take some time before people have tried out everything. What I found now is that the thing I liked the most in the fixes has not been fixed for me, the tablet support (or I'm doing something wrong...). I was so happy that the issue that the camera spins around like being handled by the tasmanian devil when I touched the control with the pen has been fixed. Now, I found that it stills spins and behaves insane ( but maybe a bit faster now :laugh: just kidding)
I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!
And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!
Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:
The Home Of The Living Dolls
kuroyume0161 posted Thu, 13 July 2006 at 11:29 PM
To me, the Cloth and Hair Rooms are good attempts, but too much fiddling and too slow. They keep trying to cram features into an archaic, usually unstable application that are too much. You want to see Cloth and Hair at work, try Cinema 4D's Clothilde and Hair module. After using these, Poser's aren't worth even clicking on the tab. Sorry, I've been spoiled by superior design and speed.
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the
foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg
off.
-- Bjarne
Stroustrup
Contact Me | Kuroyume's DevelopmentZone
SaintFox posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 12:04 AM
I never before participated in one of those "what's best" threads and I still won't because I acknowledge in the point that there are many tools that are much more stable and fast.
The major question for me is what I want to do and end up with. And as I'm all into skin and a special kind of light C4D and others don't fullfill my needs, everything I tried gave me skin that was not real enough for my taste. But when it comes to big scenes with a lot of envorinment and such there are far better apps than Poser. The only thing that makes me hesitate: I don't use much interior, landscapes and such, most of the time I prefer the puristic style.
I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!
And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!
Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:
The Home Of The Living Dolls
tbird10 posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 11:41 AM
I'm now occasionaly getting firefly render errors, saying there has been a problem, this seems to come up for every light in the scene which then appears to render without any problem, weird !
Miss Nancy posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 1:41 PM
oops! I keep forgetting that the only two buyers for poser are no longer in the market, hence e-frontier won't be able to sell it. that's a break with tradition, which normally calls for each new version to be put out by a new company. it may bode well for poser users, as the same coders who are familiar with P6 problems (if any) will be well-equipped to write the next version.
TrekkieGrrrl posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 2:27 PM
I've installed SR3, and to me it seems like it's rendering slightly faster... I had been working on for days on THIS PIC, rendering and rendering it again (since it contains a mirror) and well, I installed SR3 as soon as I'd got it downloaded, and well.. it seemed like it was faster. Just a smidgeon, but at least I havne't discovered any weird behaviour yet.
I gotta try that material collection thing though... That better work, I'm using it a lot...
FREEBIES! | My Gallery | My Store | My FB | Tumblr |
You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
Using Poser since 2002. Currently at Version 11.1 - Win 10.
SaintFox posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 4:50 PM
Slightly faster? Moe stable? Here too - well, at least "maybe", every image is different and you can often not tell exactly why you get errors! I've started to render a full figure with every single face_off-shader I have, 2000x1200, 300 dpi before I went to bed and ws surprised that it was finished without errors or lockups when I got up again to get me some milk - one hour later! One render makes no regularity at all but as I'm used to render everything in areas it makes a very nice exception :wink"
I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!
And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!
Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:
The Home Of The Living Dolls
stewer posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 6:31 PM
Quote - I use a wacom tablet and haven't any troubles either.
My Wacom tablet has two settings - a "mouse mode" and a "tablet mdoe". Mouse mode has worked fine every since, but it's the tablet mode in which you'll see the difference between SR3 and no SR3.
mylemonblue posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 7:34 PM
The FireFly Render Engine section of the pop up notes on the download page talks about optimized data structures for more efficient memory use in high polygon count scenes (Mac OS X only)
I'm wondering if this mean Mac users had troubles PC users didn't or did a universal problem got fixed only in the Mac version?
Yup I'm still waiting for more feed back in general.
(cowers in corner poking a stick at the update to see if it's safe.)
:blink: :scared:
My brain is just a toy box filled with weird things
uli_k posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 10:09 PM
The optimization improves both Mac and Windows versions. However, it was done to avoid a Mac specific problem. So the positive impact is much larger on the Mac.
Fazzel posted Fri, 14 July 2006 at 11:02 PM
Well, the first thing I noticed after installing SR3 was that it weirded out the eye textures,
turned the eyewhites yellow and blocky. Couldn't fix it and it looked so strange
I finally decided to uninstall Poser and then reinstalled it and installed SR3 on
a fresh copy without even opening it first. Luckily it fixed the problem and now
the eyes render correctly.
PointLady posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 2:27 AM
I have not downloaded the SR3 yet, no time to, just cruising around trying to find out what problems or whatever for the moment others might be having to be forewarned.
However, I have not yet seen how big this download is, so could somebody enlighten me thanks. Jan
LostinSpaceman posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 2:43 AM
diana posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 9:23 AM
In the material room, select the background and check Autofit under the BG Picture settings. That fixed the rendering square issue for me.
zulu9812 posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 12:38 PM
Quote - There are quite a number of other companies that do require logons for updates.. Eon, Newtek, Autodesk.. basically most major 3d application companies.
As long as they save a cookie for their download page, I have no issues at all. The point is to slow the pirates down.
It doesn't work though. I've already seen links to SR3. Generally speaking, measures such as these are inconveniences which only buyers have to put up with, since warez users have it all taken care of for them.
Darboshanski posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 8:14 PM
Okay I've had the patch installed for a day and these are the improvements I saw on my machine. Bare in mind my machine is 3 years old now but all my drivers are up to date. I run an AMD ath. XP 1.4Hz processor with a gig and a half of 333 ddr memory. Anyway here is what I've noticed:
Smoother movment when using my wacom tablet. When I use the stylus the camera controls and figures don't go insane.
Area renders are much quicker.
Working with dynamic figures within the cloth room is really fast. Before the updated patch it would take forever for a simple cloth sim. Now it takes off like a rocket. My last cloth some was on Jessie and it took less than 30 secs.
I note a small change in speed when doing a final render using firefly.
And now that the BG mystery has been solved I am very happy with the patch thus far. I also use pov-ray to do final renders but I have yet to import a poser scene into that to see if there is any effect from SR3. I doubt there will be.
Micheál