FutureFantasyDesign opened this issue on Jul 30, 2006 · 29 posts
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 12:05 PM
**OK, I got PS7 a while back. I have been using PSP7-X for so long I can't seem to either learn or adapt to PS7!!! I mean, I have even bought Brush Sets for it an also have some "Actions" but I just can't seem to figure out HOW to USE Them! Gads I have several complicated programs that I learned! Why is this one being so darn hard? Is there a good place to go to learn PS7??? I see all these CS tuts, and it seems that I have a lot of really dumb questions, and I find I am doing the same thing I do with 'High' end programs like Carrara and Hexagon, I just don't use it because they are not working with me! (*or I really AM stupid!) I found a book that is for PS5 it is HUGE(*3inches thick!) and hardbound! Got it at a garage sale! But I don't know what has changed (from 5-7)since I got 7...so is this book accurate enough to warrant reading? Is/will it have the Correct Info for PS7? Lastly, Adobe treats me like what I am...a NEWBIE! I can't say it isn't embarrassing. I can't help that I couldn't afford it til now. I almost feel like I wasted cash and effort...Please can someone take pity on me>? I work extensively in Poser, and I know that this will help me to get better quality and effects. sigh...If I can ever get the basics nailed.
ThanX
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 1:09 PM
Here are some links I found doing a simple Google search for "Photoshop 7 tutorial"
http://www.arraich.com/ps_intro.htm
http://getit.rutgers.edu/tutorials/photoshop7/index.html
http://www.vtc.com/products/photoshop-7.htm
http://www.trainingtools.com/online/photoshop7/
http://www.softwaretrainingtutorials.com/photoshop-7.php
Is there anything specific you would like to learn first?
Hope this helps
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 1:34 PM
Yes Tom there is(*ThanX!)...I need to see something that shows where the Basic tools are. I find that the fact that I don't have a "Pointer" icon in PS is really a pain. I am used to doing a lot of "Cut & Pasting" in PSP to achieve different effects. And the fact that I cannot point and click to cut is odd feeling. So where as in PSP I am TOTALLY in my element...in PS I am drowning trying to get a basic foothold. Does that make sense? Also learning to use Layers is really something new. I can do really difficult things in PSP, mostly they're are my own work arounds that even now I find people will comment on about how "Cool" it looks. Some even assume I am using PS! Here I have bought these Hair Brushes, and they are not working for me, as they are very large and I have not yet got a feel for how large I can work in PS, I actually work on 3000X2500 in PSP! At 300DPI...but I can't seem to "Fit" things in PS. But it just is "Crowded" looking in PS? Is there a way to get more viewing area? OK thats a lot of things I will leave off for the moment. Looking forward to your advice!
Again ThanX!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 1:36 PM
PPS....ThanX for the Links!!!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 1:41 PM
OMGDDSS!!!! This Tut is Wonderful!
http://www.softwaretrainingtutorials.com/photoshop-7.php
It is a voice guided Flash Tut! It is looking like a real good one!
*dances little steps of joy!!!!
Still appreciate your other advice tho!!!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 1:50 PM
As far as the "Pointer", I'm not sure if this is what you mean...but you can change the way your cursor looks in "Preferences".
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
tantarus posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:01 PM
PS have pretty hard learning curve. If you need advice on where to find some tool or how to make some effect or how to use layers ask here. Im sure that you`ll get the answer to any question. To use actions follow these steps.
Tihomir
Open your mind and share the knowledge!
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:06 PM
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:08 PM
Tihomir? could you post a screen shot of this? Cause I don't know where the darn window or triangle is! LOL!!! (* :P)
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:22 PM
Anyway...If you need to work on a specific area of your image (Lips in this example).
Zoom in on it with the Zoom tool.then select "Window > Documents > New Window".
This will essentially launch a duplicate of your image.
Now select Window > Documents > Tile"
Now you can work on the zoomed in area,and see it updated in the new window at regular size.
This helps to keep from zooming in,then out to check how your edit is turning out.
I'm sure most Paint programs have a similar feature but this is how I use it in PhotoShop.
Just thought I'd throw it out there.
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:32 PM
ThanX Tom!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:41 PM
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 2:45 PM
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
Dannii posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 3:48 PM
Hi CrimsonMoon,
If you have a question about Photoshop 7.0 feel free to IM me and I'll help you out. And don't worry, after a couple of days you'll feel like an old hand. I promise.
Dannii.
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 3:57 PM
First ThanX to you Tom! The screen shots really helped! I have an inkling now! Which is leaps and bounds above 2 1/2 hours ago! LOL!
Next...Hi Danni! I appreciate the offer and I am going to grab a quick lunch and be right back! I am on PT USA...are we compatable for a few "Minutes"? Hope so...BRB!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 4:19 PM
Glad to help.
8 )
I'm curious...Why isolate the help to IM's?
You never know who may be watching and learn from the exchange.
Just curious.
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
drag posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 4:38 PM
Hi CrimsonMoon,
I too am learning Photoshop7 and a good book I found is Teach Yourself Visually. As the title indicates it teachs with easy to follow pictures. And thanks Tom you taught me two helpful things. Really like the tile editing advice. Cool..
Hawkfyr posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 5:05 PM
Attached Link: http://www.hawkfyr.com/rft/index.html
Glad to help drag[](http://www.hawkfyr.com/rft/index.html)I think the most important thing in PhotoShop to get a handle on at first is "Layers"
I put everything on a separate layer and learned to organize them in to groups and "NAME THEM"
If everything is on it's own layer,you have so much more control and flexibility over your image.
Don't like something?..just change it's layer while leaving everything else alone.
Plus it gives more control over how things are blended together.
This link is to a website I'm designing (It's very much a Work In Progress at this stage)
Just this one page has 60 layers. organized in to 5 groups.
It would quickly become unwieldy if they were not grouped and named.
Layers, Layers, Layers.
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
dlblue posted Sun, 30 July 2006 at 5:09 PM
POSTING FOR ARIANA( AKA DesertGoddess)
She is having computer issues right now. Has contracted a virus and is in the process of cleaning everything up. She will be back on as soon as she can.......
Dannii posted Mon, 31 July 2006 at 1:54 AM
Hi CrimsonMoon,
When you get your Virus sorted out simply use the sitemail here on this site to ask me any questions on Photoshop 7.0. I've been using it for years so hopefully I can answer any questions you might have.
Good luck clearing up that virus.
Dannii
tantarus posted Mon, 31 July 2006 at 3:47 AM
Tihomir
Open your mind and share the knowledge!
FutureFantasyDesign posted Mon, 31 July 2006 at 12:47 PM
*Hi Everyone! In case you haven't heard my puter crashed yesterday! I have it debugged and reformatted...but nothing is installed yet...I will do that today. Amazingly I actually saved my 2nd harddrive to my external yesterday morning! I never considered doing that until I got a bug (no pun) up my butt to reorganize Poser! So I copied the entire Drive over to my external and 2 hours later the system got a Worm and crashed!!! WOW! Talk about Kismet! So keep this alive, I promise I will be just as uninfoormed when I have reset all my programs as I am now! LOL!!!
huggerz!
Ariana
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
www.futurefantasydesign.com
Wizardkiss posted Thu, 03 August 2006 at 9:35 PM
I'm in a similar situation as the original post. I've used PSP for years and recently decided to try to switch over to PS. It's been an incredibly difficult thing to do. I spend literally hours trying to learn how to do something in PS that I could do in 2 or 3 minutes in PSP. Worse, I'm discovering many of the features of PS are actually downgrades from their equivalents in PSP, although there are also a lot of things PS will do that PSP can't, which is why I want to switch. One of the most difficult things is that I can't figure out how to paste data from the clipboard into PS as a new image. If you use Paste it just pastes it into the current image as a new layer. In PSP you go Edit>Paste>Paste As New Image. Can anyone tell me what the PS way of doing the same thing would be?
Hawkfyr posted Fri, 04 August 2006 at 1:00 AM
"One of the most difficult things is that I can't figure out how to paste data from the clipboard into PS as a new image. If you use Paste it just pastes it into the current image as a new layer. In PSP you go Edit>Paste>Paste As New Image. Can anyone tell me what the PS way of doing the same thing would be?
Yeah...just select File > New and it will automatically give the clipboards dimensions.
the select "okay" an then paste.
This may seem like and extra step but what is does do is give the option to set the dpi as well as set the background options(Ie White, Black, or Transparent) It create an entirely new file for you that way.
Do tell what feature are worse in PhotoShop...there may just be another way of approaching it that is still illusive to you.
Again..I'm not familiar with PSP so It'll have to be spelled out to me... I'm curious as to what downgrade you are referring to.
8 )
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
Wizardkiss posted Fri, 04 August 2006 at 2:54 AM
tantarus posted Fri, 04 August 2006 at 3:34 AM
If you want to see before/after image while using filter, click on prewiev box and you can see it in full size not just a thumb. PS is very complicated, but hes developed for pro use in first place. Learning the commands in PS is just the first step. For every kind of photo manipulation or creating the texture, etc. there is many ways of doing it by using different series of commands. Thats why he
s so powerful, its totaly nonlinear :)
Tihomir
Open your mind and share the knowledge!
FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 09 August 2006 at 7:09 AM
Quote - Glad to help.
8 )
I'm curious...Why isolate the help to IM's?
You never know who may be watching and learn from the exchange.
Just curious.
Tom
Oh yes, I agree with Tom, please tell us all - I want to learn too!
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Wed, 09 August 2006 at 7:18 AM
Quote - Hi CrimsonMoon,
When you get your Virus sorted out simply use the sitemail here on this site to ask me any questions on Photoshop 7.0. I've been using it for years so hopefully I can answer any questions you might have.
Good luck clearing up that virus.
Dannii
It would be so nice if we could also hear the answers - all these hints and tips and tutorials help us all immensly - well it helps me anyway.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
bedrockpebbles posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 12:28 PM
I am also another PSP user for many yrs now and am now in the process of learning PS too, I am very glad that you've decided to keep this in posting as I am learning alot more this way, thanks for the ones that are posting ex. with their post as this is very helpful....
I do alot of amatuer graphic's & have been told that I needed to go PS as this is more detailed and I could go farther with it in my graphic world....have been at a loss since it is so far beyond from I'm used too and to find the many available tutorials you've listed here has been a big help....Thank You very much for doing this.....
Pebbles