Hi ppl of R.R!

I asked help in a past and always got such an useful guide and help back! Now it is time to " run to mommy again"

I am straggling with IR. What ever I do with my shot does not looks like what I can see here in a gallery by some talented member or on others internet site. I have to find out if my camera not suitable to my Hoya 72R filter or my knowledge not up to it. So here is my original shot, that is how is coming off from my memory card. Who ever feel a courage and have some spare time ( I know it is holiday season ) to actually make a proper IR picture out of my base shot, I ask him/her please do it. I would like to see how it is turns out to YOU! I wish to know thou what You did exactly. ( how far adjusted a red or blue and how much contrast ...so on...)I have no other way to find out what I am do wrong, so I have to compare with Your doing! I know it is should be a secret behind a curtain, I have no intention to make any profit of my work , so Your secret stays between my 4 walls, and promisse I will never upload IR here to take credit of Your knowledge. I just want to enjoy brilliant sparkling IR pictures made by me!

Some spec of a shot: camera FUJI Fine Pix s7000, Filter : Hoya 72 R, Shutter speed : 2.3 sec. App: F/2.8, ISO:100 , Light: Tungsten . I am using Photoshop 5.5

seeya Tunde

( sorry can not load bigger RR does not allow it ???)

Attached Link: FinePix S7000

First off Tunde, you can load a larger image, but it will only show a 400 pixel wide image here until you click on it. File size is limited to 200KB. Secondly, this is a pretty neat IR shot. I've never seen one in orange before, and I kind of like it. If you look at the link I provided, you'd see that your camera is not the best for shooting IR, it's sensivity to it is rather low and you lose about -11.2 EV, so you'll have long shutter times. You image is similar to the test shot they show. I'm not sure about balancing out the color, but with your camera I would recommend going to black and white. I converted to greyscale and then did a simple auto levels to get what you see here. Search the web for IR information. A good primer page is this one: http://dpfwiw.com/ir.htm Good luck!

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations

Looks to me like you have done a mighty fine job without anyones help.

The shot just needs converting to monochrome ( black & white to you and me). I have done this with the channel mixer.  Settings here Red = 100 Green = 0 Blue =0  Constant = 0 and tick the monochrome box.

IR is a matter of finding the right settings and the right scene. I think this shot has probably over exposed just a little bit (too long exposure). I can't be sure of that though because this is only a small image and making it this small could be the culprit. I would go with something a little less exposure next time, but I don't know how you arrived at the setting so I can't tell you exactly how to do that. The advantage of having it slightly less exposed is that it will leave you more room for manoeuvre in making adjustments in postwork. Common adjustments might be adding a diffuse glow or noise and adjusting levels, contrast, etc.

The only other thing to add is and I am sure I speak for all of us here: any help, advice , tips  etc.  given in this forum is given freely because we want to help. Nothing pleases me more than seeing someone use something I have said and get some success with it.  So please, I don't believe in secrets it is better to share knowledge, it is to the benefit of everyone including the person giving. You are free to use it and post your images in the gallery - if you don't I will always wonder if I wasted my time and anyone ever read it.

 

And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html

Thanks Guys for a links ....  so not all hope lost  to doing neat IR picture.  One step closer to make up my mind about a new camera ...hey santa are You listening?

seeyus  Tunde

Nice work, it just needs a little work in PS =)

Easy fix: If you want to do false-color IR, and not just b&w

1)Image.... Adjustments... Channel Mixer

2)On the Red channel (found on the drop menu), slide red to zero and blue to 100

3)On Blue channel, slide red to 100 and blue to zero, then OK

4)Last step, Image... Adjustments... Autolevels......

Easy greasy ;-)

Have fun,

Kim

Nice Kim! =]

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations

 Thanx Kim, Yes I want to do false color IR, that out of this world glow on a picture.  I will try it out tonight , sound easy hihi.

seeya  Tunde

Oh, and one more thing... the final product depends on what color the image appears in the camera. The colors depend on the sensetivity of the camera to IR, and every camera is different.  My Canon and my Nikon both produce a deep purple image (less sensitve), while my Fuji creates images with much more tonal and color range, between light pink and deep blue, making it much more useful for IR. Just thought you might like to know! =)

P.S. If you want to see before and after shots from each of my cameras, I can do that =)

Kim

OOOhh KIM would YOU please, really would YOU!!  My Fuji does what is a first shot in this tread. That is what I call a  base image, then I take it further. I never had a purple " base " image always orange tonal. I would like to see shot from your camera  up here, so I can see a different in IR tones. ( orange pink or what ever it might be a color). And million thx for your time, You allready a great help. Last night I tried some of my shot with your manipulations and turned out to be looking really cool. Much more like it than a way I did. Thank You!

seeya  Tunde

Attached Link: http://www.macro-world.com/IR_photo_gallery.htm

Hope this helps =)

Kim

Thanks Kim for a link. Well I have a Fuji 602 , doesn't do color like on a link.  I would go with a canon. Actually I am shopping for a new camera, thanks for a guys here, talking about cameras every day, they make it easy for me to pick a camera what I think would replace my Fuji(s). Nikon D50 or 70 . Price will tilt a balance wich one.

Thanks for your ongoing help, You don't know how much You helped!!

seeya  Tunde

You know, in Japan, they have a CANON EOS 20Da that the company actually sells as an astrography camera lets in more of the IR light. Here's a link: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/eos20da.html another http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/eos20da/ You can also have your camera converted: http://www.burren.cx/photo/ir_conversions.html http://www.lifepixel.com/IR.htm Not cheap, but would be neat to have a dedicated IR cam. You can find tutorials on doing it yourself and some here have done that with good results. Lots of options out there, if you have a little extra cash. :)

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations