areno opened this issue on Aug 21, 2006 · 79 posts
areno posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 2:51 AM
Attached Link: Bryce 5 for Free
Just came across this at Cnet..
Mahray posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 3:33 AM
Oooh... downloading now to see what's so different about the 'free' version.
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Mahray posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 3:49 AM
It downloads and works, but:
Enjoy!
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ysvry posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 3:58 AM
great does that mean we will see 6 for sale soon?
Mahray posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 4:00 AM
ysvry - I certainly think so... although B5 is still for sale in the Daz store... silly Daz :) Gotta love the Rosity community for breaking news too.
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ysvry posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 4:09 AM
i cant get the serial? i did the alt tab but explorer stays on the same page?
Mahray posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 4:21 AM
Hmm...
It worked for me, is all I can say.
(1) Open Bryce, get the registration screen: hit continue
(2) You'll get this screen, just Alt-Tab out, or click the little x to close it
(3) Registration code from the Daz Website
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chohole posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 4:41 AM
The interesting thing I find is that cnet say d/l file size just over 23 mb.........I checked my bryce 5 cd and it is over 94mb...so what is missing from this copy?
I am interested because my son would like to try Bryce out.
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ysvry posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 5:05 AM
odd seems to work at my older computer, well i ve got the code now and it works , thx for the head up Mahray, the link to the extra content doesnt work here either.
Mahray posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 5:06 AM
Chohole - the download version has none of the content, it does have a dialogue box saying download the content here (leading to a missing page atm).
The base version comes with:
No objects
No textures
Bryce 5 skies
However, it does look like they'll be offering the content for download (once someone at Daz wakes up), which would probably be the basic textures/objects.
Also, I forgot to say a big Thank You to areno for finding this for us :)
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dan whiteside posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 7:35 AM
Attached Link: Bryce for Mac
Here's the Mac version link. As has been the case since DAZ got Bryce5, the Mac OS requirements don't mention that it doesn't work under 10.4.x. Great find areno! Best; Danpakled posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 7:37 AM
oh right! Now it's free..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
draculaz posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 11:47 AM
and an era has ended...
artbyphil posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 12:22 PM
Its quite strange this free version has a serial nimber. the version I bought from Daz never needed one.
chohole posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 12:47 PM
I have the corel version and that needs a serial number to activate it after installation.
The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."
kiwi_gg posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 12:50 PM
Don't forget that with Bryce 5 you will need the patch from Corel. I think its still available there anyway but I can't remember exactly what it fixed. Use B5 myself too.
Cheers
GG.
WHO said Kiwi's can't Fly ?????
electronicpakrat posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 12:59 PM
It also seems the serial / activation process needs to be repeated for each install (even on the same machine) which also causes several serials to appear in your DAZ account details. I thought I'd install it (on a machine I didn't want to keep it on) just to get the serial / content thinking I could store it for later use, but it would not appear so. :blink:
It would seem that re-zipping the Bryce 5 folder contents after activating and installing the presets avoid this behavior since the "Bryce5.dta" file gets included.
danamo posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 1:22 PM
Thanks for the Heads-up Areno!
diolma posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 3:56 PM
I also say "Thanks for the heads up":-))
I've D/L'd it, installed it, registered it, got the missing files (the Presets etc..) , moved them into the correct folder , and whaddayaknow - It Works! (well, at least as far as a max of 15 mins testing shows me..) :-))
I have been using Bryce 3D for many years now. I didn't upgrade, 'cos the advances weren't (to me) worth the price. But a free version of B5? Well, that's a no-brainer!
And now comes the inevitable question:
What is the best (if any) approach to take to get my B3 content into my brand-spanking new, free B5?
I'm not really worried about saved scenes (although that would be a bonus), but am worried about over-writing any B5 non-compatible content (if there is any).
My B3 (and its content) is on a separate drive (which is rather full).
My new B5 on a drive which has oodles of spare space (at the moment), so I can make a complete backup if necessary..
But which bits can I overwrite safely (If any)?
I could spend some time trying out this and that (and will probably do so), but any short-cuts/pitfall-warnings from anyone who has previously upgraded would be warmly appreciated:-))
(Off to play with the tree lab now - B3 doesn't have one..)
Cheers,
Diolma
Edited to add: I do know enough to know not to overwrite .exe or .dll files or similar...
chohole posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 4:27 PM
It's a considerable time since I upgraded, but I went straight from B3 to B5 when I did it. You will find you can open saved B3 scenes. When you click on "open", at the bottom it says B5 files, but that has other options in a drop down list, including as far back as B2 files. I seem to remember that the best way to transfer skies was in scene files. I know there were some things I couldn't transfer, have a strange feeling that it was the bryce objects which had a different suffix, not obp, but don't take that as gospel.
The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."
electronicpakrat posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 5:11 PM
For anyone who cares or doesn't already know...
It looks like the product ps_ap075 (Bryce 5 Hi-Bandwidth Download) that was there earlier today has now been pulled from the DAZ store as the free version has replaced it.
Additionally, I found the "REAL" DAZ Bryce 5 installer that doesn't require (internet) product activation after installation in the "Available Downloads" section of my account after registering the version downloaded from CNET.
This free DAZ version is just one piece (~ 90 MB) and provides an automatic installer.
I just had to provide the serial found under "Available Serial Codes" section (which I have also archived for offline use) and that's it.
Then you can delete the version from downloaded from CNET and keep the version downloaded from DAZ instead.
pakled posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 6:37 PM
so you download Cnet version, then download the Daz version? I'm gonna havta archive this. Maybe I can have Bryce at work now..;)
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anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
skiwillgee posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 6:55 PM
Does anyone know if "content" link at CNET working yet.? I dl'd the zip file and burned to CD for a friend who has sloooooooooow dial up.
Can I just copy my content files and mat files to the CD, or would that be some kind of copyright infringement?
I now have the option to wait ten more years and get Bryce 6 free!
electronicpakrat posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 7:04 PM
Quote - skiwillgee - Does anyone know if "content" link at CNET working yet.?
Please read my post above.
The CNET version is just a lure to get you to the DAZ site (and to make an account there if you don't have one). Downloading the CNET version's "content" is also waste of time since you'll probably not want to archive (keep) the CNET version anyway IMHO.
If you follow what I said above, you may have no need to download the "content" for the CNET version and you'll likely want to "re-burn" that CD with the "DAZ" version (and optionally a text file with the serial).
The instructions are to be perfomed at DAZ's website only after you have created an account, logged in, and registered Bryce 5. This unfortuntely requires a temporary installation of the CNET version to get the serial but it can be uninstalled.
If anything I said above remains unclear, let me know and I'll try to explain better.
danamo posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 8:19 PM
Thanks electronicpackrat! I wouldn't have thought to look in "available downloads" if you hadn't said something. I D/L the DAZ version too.
skiwillgee posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 8:42 PM
@ electronicpakrat
I've already got an account at Daz. If I do the Daz thing, I'm I correct thinking that I'll need to create a new account with friends email, password, etc before download so product will be registered to them???
Mugsey posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 8:46 PM
So what does THIS CRAP mean?
Are they retiring BRYCE 5?
Are they coming out with BRYCE 6?
If they ARE coming out with B6 - does this mean that since it's free now (and the sunza beechios should re-imburse me the 50 bucks I plopped down for it just two months ago abouts) - then my extensive .mat and .bsk and .obp files now will NOT work on B6 when it comes out?
I HATE FREAKING CHANGE!!!!
Am I going to have to trash everything now and buy all NEW CRAP?
What the heck is up with this?!!!
I smell a rancid fish in Denmark!!!
skiwillgee posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 8:55 PM
Me thinks it's B5 not B5.1 or B5.5
Mahray posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 9:54 PM
It is Bryce 5.0 (according to my Daz Downloads), they're still selling 5.5, and I suspect/hope this means 6 will be out soon. This way they get all these new people to download B5 and join Daz, then they can have their price promotion on B6 and get a lot more users, who will be Daz members and buy lots of content etc.
Editted to add:
Moriah L Jones wrote:
This DAZ special offer is available only at Download.com and will absolutely end on September 6, 2006! So don't delay in picking up this gift of one of the finest landscaping and animation software applications available anywhere.
Apparently this was meant to be a special Daz Platinum Club thing, but since they put it on CNET... anyway, act quickly.
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electronicpakrat posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 10:15 PM
Quote - I've already got an account at Daz. If I do the Daz thing, I'm I correct thinking that I'll need to create a new account with friends email, password, etc before download so product will be registered to them???
Yes. When the CNET version is run and you click the button to "continue", it will to try to go the DAZ website.
If you're already logged in, it will add a new Bryce 5 serial to your account. So whatever account you login to will be associated with the new serial.
Additionally, whatever account the serial is associated with will also have a "new" available download added. It will do this every time it's installed on any machine.
FYI, it's Corel Bryce 5.0 with the update 5.01 applied.
Wow @ Mahray - that's a big oops! :lol:
electronicpakrat posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 10:46 PM
I probably would have seen this coming if I still had access to the "Members Only" forums at DAZ.
However, the thing is...my PC Membership expired yesterday since I had no intention to renew.
This will not change that but it's neat to hear I got a bonus I potentially shouldn't have.
I also hear that there's a coupon for PC members allowing them to purchase Bryce 5.5 for $20 which is great for increasing the Bryce userbase. If they decide to let people upgrade from the free Bryce 5 to Bryce 6 later, then I might consider it.
electronicpakrat posted Mon, 21 August 2006 at 11:39 PM
Gee...I sure hate not being able to edit my earlier posts. :glare:
Anyway, I think things might be different (better / worse) than I originally thought.
DAZ Artzone members were supposed to get Bryce 5 free and now got a coupon that would let them get Bryce 5.5 for $20.
Platinum Club members would seem to get Bryce 5.5 Free ?
If someone who knows more than I wants to confirm this, I'd appreciate it. :unsure:
electronicpakrat posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 12:00 AM
The coupon "BRYCE55DEAL" is supposed be used with the following DAZ item...
br_ap005 - http://www.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=4513
It would seem that the price has been increased from $100 to $120 and they now claim you're saving $100. Oddly, it's listed as both a "DAZ Original" and a "Resell Item" so I'd have no clue whether the PC 30% on all DAZ Originals would apply here. Perhaps the "Resell Item" part takes precedence.
Here's how it works.
As for the rumor of PC members getting for free, I don't know any more about that.
electronicpakrat posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 12:22 AM
AgentSmith,
I feel like I've spammed this thread. Can you please remove all my posts appearing on the second page (including this one) ? Thanks! :blushing:
Swade posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 12:42 AM
From the Artzone website
Key in to your address bar http://www.artzone.com
Subject ArtZone Limited Time Bryce Special Message
A Limited Time Special
In addition to being part of the hottest online art community anywhere, ArtZone members with active profiles set up before September 6, 2006, will receive a voucher to upgrade to Bryce 5.5 for only $19.95 - a $100 savings!
Here's how it works.
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Mahray posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 2:01 AM
Actually, the ArtZone voucher currently gives you a 100% discount... not sure if this was the intended behaviour or not.
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chohole posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 2:32 AM
If you are a daz artzone member you can now get the download straight from Daz. My son has just done this........entered the daz registration and is now playing with bryce 5.01, after a quick telephone tut from me. Plus artzone are offering a limited time upgrade to 5.5 for $19.95, for all artzone members.
The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."
Mahray posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 3:29 AM
Chohole (and others) - The AZ voucher is currently giving you 5.5 for the princely sum of $0.00... get it while it's hot!
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chohole posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 4:14 AM
Thanks for that heads up Mahray...off to try that
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tjohn posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 5:22 AM
In light of these events, I wonder if Bryce6 will be available as an upgrade, or full purchase only.
This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
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electronicpakrat posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 7:15 AM
It says... "If you've completed your ArtZone profile"...what does this mean ?
Since it would seem the AZ Voucher 100% off deal requires AZ membership..
I tried creating an ArtZone account yesterday using my same DAZ3D credentials.
After creating the account, I was able to login and everything.
Does one have fill out every little question in the profile ?
I've cancelled my AZ Account until I know how much is required. It's so much like a dating service.
From those who have done it, I'd like to know what am I not doing (enough of) since I may the only one can't manage to get any kind of discount at all. :blushing:
chohole posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:00 AM
NO I went in, added the upgrade to my shopping cart and by the time I got to checkout it showed up as the $0 total. Now safely D/L ed.
Next question..........If I install the 5.5. file will it over ride my b5 install? because I haven't backed up my presets recently, and don't want to lose my additions.
The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."
ysvry posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:28 AM
ysvry posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:33 AM
if i choose the az promotional package i still have to pay 19,95 ????
how do u get 100% ??
adh3d posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 9:28 AM
It is great, but one question, I suppose the free bryce v5 will be not used to update to next verison of Bryce (6), so you can save some money when you by the ver 6.
chohole posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 9:57 AM
@ Ysvry....you have to have art zone , plus plat club memebership to get the 100% off............because with the plat club you get 30% off normal price, and the AZ thingy counts as a voucher, not a discount, so in theory with my plat club discount being 30% of $119.95 and the AZ voucher being for $100...then Daz owe me money.
The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."
electronicpakrat posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 10:43 AM
Well, I just got off the phone with DAZ.
I was told that the reason my coupon wasn't applied is because everyone must "wait" at least 24 hours after joining ArtZone (as a "new member") before placing the order for the coupon to appear.
I still had to pay $19.95. Which is still more than fair and I'm happy.
I asked about the Bryce 5.5 $0 deal...
I was told that it's a "glitch in the system" and it's not supposed to be that way for PC members!
Now that they're open, it will be fixed soon.
Dynamo posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 12:56 PM
Parden my lack of knowlege Im coming off Vue. Does bryce always run in a small window mode? This seems to be quite a waste of space. Or perchance is this the free 5.0 version only and I can do full windowed mode if I upgrade to 5.5?
Dynamo posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 1:19 PM
Der, nevermind I was givent he answer soory for the Noobness.
PJF posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 1:21 PM
Hi Dynamo,
By default, the Bryce workspace wraps itself around your 'document' (the size of which you can set via the file menu). You can expand the Bryce workspace to the maximum screen area by clicking on the little button underneath the spraycan symbol near the top of the column of buttons that run down the right hand side of the workspace.
(sorry, can't do a screen grab right now)
PJF posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 1:24 PM
Heh.
Oh well, someone might benefit from the answer.
PJF posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 1:41 PM
"In light of these events, I wonder if Bryce6 will be available as an upgrade, or full purchase only."
tjohn, from SKondris heading up the DAZ Bryce 6 thread:
"Oh, and about pricing..... I cannot say anything at this time other than we will be doing a very nice job of taking care of everyone who purchased version 5.5, plus an upgrade option from older versions as well."
I feel pretty certain there will be an upgrade route to version 6 from this free Bryce5, even if it's just a token amount. Seems not much point in the promotional marketing otherwise; though I suppose just having loads more people trying Bryce can't hurt. I also feel this free Bryce5 will appear on magazine cover CDs with an upgrade to 6 offer. It's a typical approach.
I'm not convinced this will be much help to Bryce6 succeeding, but I think it's great that more people get to use Bryce. I still think Corel Bryce5.01 is the best release.
donniemc0 posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 3:07 PM
i'm with mugsey, where do i go for a refund? do you know how long it took me to save for bryce 5? grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
PJF posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 3:33 PM
If you purchased Bryce from DAZ within the last 30 days, you can get your money back (and pick up the freebie).
Otherwise it's just a bad timing slap in the face. Short of completely withdrawing a program from sale for six months, or something, there's not a lot a company can do to avoid some full-price buyers feeling aggrieved at others getting a big discount.
skiwillgee posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 5:11 PM
I work part time in a retail store: Policy there is if it goes on sale, price drops, find it cheaper somewhere else within 30 days of purchare date, you can get refund for difference. It looks like that's what Daz is doing. There will always be someone who feels left out after 31 days. It's tough to be that guy but they have to draw a line somewhere.
serendigity59@gmail.com posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 6:18 PM
I guess the moral of the story is to be careful if buying a product at full price when lots of talk is about regarding the next release being imminent... A bit like 'end of model runout' new car deals...
electronicpakrat posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 6:46 PM
It would also seem after reading the DAZ PC newsletter (just arrived today) that upgrades will only be possible from v5 onward. So, if there's anyone still on v4 or earlier you'll probably not qualify for upgrade pricing which means you'll be paying full price (if you want B6, that is).
However, if DAZ offers B6 for $1.99 (like they did with Hex 2) then it's a moot point anyway. :lol:
pakled posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 7:50 PM
installing it now (the hard way..but that's me)..there's nearly 2,000 mats in 'installed', I wonder if there's any new ones..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
serendigity59@gmail.com posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:01 PM
I assume that if I purchase the 5.5 upgrade then it is not worth my while downloading the full ver 5 give away as the contents will all be in the 5.5 hi-bandwidth downloads anyway? Can anyone confirm this? Thanks, Steve
adh3d posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:22 PM
Well, if you only can get a update price of Bryce 6 from Bryce 5, I think there is not update price, because everybosy can get the ver 5 by free now.
Mugsey posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:29 PM
It doesn't matter if it's the original Corel version or if it's a trimmed down DAZ number - bottom line - are all of my add-ons for B5.1 thru B5.5 gonna work in B6, or am I screwed?
I have THOUSANDS of .mat, .bsk, and .obp files - does this mean that I'm gonna watch stuff that I can use with good old B5.1 dwindle and fade away to nothing gradually practically overnight - to the point where only stuff that works with B6 will be left?
True - that's probably inevitable anyway, but is it gonna happen TOO FAST?
I would hate to see a new Bryce that chokes on the good old .mat
serendigity59@gmail.com posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 8:43 PM
My guess on all this is that DAZ is having a marketting push to expand the user base for Bryce by giving away ver 5 for free - it may end up on magazine cover DVDs as well. The inexpensive upgrade offer for 5.5 is a seperate push to extend the membership of ArtZone.
I would expect differing upgrade price offers for registered owners of Bryce5 and Bryce5.5 to move to the new Bryce6. I would expect no upgrade offers for owners of earlier versions. Too bad for those registered owners of earlier versions of Bryce who are not in a position to learn about this short-time-frame give away of Bryce5...
Timing wise, I would hope that Bryce 6 is released some time before Christmas. It would be really nice if Universal Binary versions of Bryce 6 and DAZStudio were available for Intel Macs soon thereafter as well. :-)
pauljs75 posted Tue, 22 August 2006 at 9:55 PM
Cool beans.
It doesn't bother Bryce 4, so you can switch back and forth between the two if Bryce 5 is a bit slow for some quickie things.
You know what this means? There's probably going to be a lot of Bryce newbs rolling in. A.S. better be prepared. :scared:
:lol:
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Also feel free to browse my freebies at ShareCG.
There might be something worth downloading.
Mahray posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 4:29 AM
MaleneySteve - according to the latest DAz newsletter, upgrade price is only for 5/5.5 users.
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Boofy posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 7:10 AM
I just found that if you type in 'bryce 5 presets' in the search field in cnet it has the presets there to download now if anyone needs them.
Jenny.
dan whiteside posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 7:31 AM
"are all of my add-ons for B5.1 thru B5.5 gonna work in B6?" Yes
pauljs75 posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 10:08 AM
Backwards compatability has always been a Bryce feature as far as I could tell. With all the content out there, it'd be pretty dumb not to be. So there's no need to flip-out Mugsey, DAZ isn't that stupid.
Your friendly neighborhood Wings3D nut.
Also feel free to browse my freebies at ShareCG.
There might be something worth downloading.
Claywoman posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 11:35 AM
Hi I downloaded the Bryce proggie, but when I clicked the exe it said it was missing a dll file
Im re downloading now..my question is how will I get it to run..it is in pieces
Thanks,
Clay
ggrace posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 11:51 AM
Can anyone tell me if the free version or the non-free 5.5 can be installed without online activation? I have my graphics programs on a XP PC that is not connected to the internet? I don't want to connect it for security reasons. I mostly use Carrara 5 Pro but Bryce would be nice to have also. Thanks,
Glenn
electronicpakrat posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 4:50 PM
Yes, both can.
Bryce 5.5 requires no activation or even a serial at present. This may probably be the easiest solution even if it's not the cheapest.
If you want the version of Corel Bryce 5.01 that doesn't require "online-activation" (which includes the presets / content with it) you should be able to download a ~ 90 MB file from your "Available Downloads" as long as you at least install the CNET version "once" and let it register itself with your DAZ Account. After that, you can uninstall the CNET Bryce and install the DAZ version on any machine you need only using the "serial".
Mugsey posted Wed, 23 August 2006 at 7:54 PM
I don't call it "BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY", - I call it "REASONABLE" .
"Upgrade' itis" is a rancid communicable disease that I would like to avoid if possible.
Gradual positive change is sometimes a sign of adaptive progress - but rapid change is ALWAYS a symptom of decay!
Mediocrity is at best a peaceful state - at worst stagnation...
ysvry posted Thu, 24 August 2006 at 1:19 AM
serendigity59@gmail.com posted Thu, 24 August 2006 at 3:32 AM
I have just downloaded the Bryce 5.5 $20 offer from DAZ having previously downloaded the free Ver 5 from the DAZ website - both are the Apple Mac versions. I have carefully been through the contents of all the presets, skies etc and have found that there are some new items in 5.5, some overlap between the two, but a lot of stuff from ver 5 that is not in the ver 5.5 download. This is most likely due to a compromise between new features, and manageble download sizes and bandwidth usage for DAZ.
I would advise people to go through the exercise of comparing the contents of both packages rather than just trashing ver 5... i.e. you will end up with more terrain maps, light gels, sky presets, and some materials, and the preset scene examples... I am sure that the old ver 4 two CD set will also have a heap of content which is unique and still useful for ver 5.5.
Interestingly, I have found that using the o/s for moving stuff into the Bryce Objects folder even when the application is running will still make those new object sub-folders and files available when the Create>Objects popup is opened. This applies to Mac, not sure about the Windows version.
ggrace posted Thu, 24 August 2006 at 10:43 AM
Thanks **electronicpakrat.
I did download it and activate it on an older xp machine. Then I burned the it to a CD and installed that on my regular PC. It works, but it has some rather strange behavior. First it seems to freeze windows in that the start menu and the task bar cannot be accessed when it's running. I can use the task manager to get at these things but I've never had to resort to that much. Also I've not found a way to exit either short of forcing a shutdown. I think maybe too much time has gone by since I used Bryce 3D and switched to Vue. I still want to use it to maybe export some Bryce objects to Carrara which is my main graphics program.
Glenn
**
Robo2010 posted Fri, 25 August 2006 at 4:57 PM
Umm...unable to export files. I was hoping to make a scene to use in Poser, and I was nearly about to buy this many months ago.
pakled posted Fri, 25 August 2006 at 7:51 PM
there's only so many things you can export. What I do is render the scene in Bryce, then File, Save Image as (I use jpg's, but you can do bmp's which are a tad larger..;)
then open Poser, Import, Background Image, select the image, match the light angles and colors with the picture (makes it 'fit' better), and there you go.
welcome to the party..
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anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
ggrace posted Sat, 26 August 2006 at 12:36 PM
Yes, there is no way to get any reasonable content out of ver 5.0. So it will sit on my PC as an interesting program with little or no use. I have Carrara 5 Pro which I got to replace Vue 5 for just this reason. It will import a great many formats and export them as well. This includes all the poser formats. It's really too bad about Bryce as there is a lot of great content for it. I'll give Bryce another try if Daz decides to allow exports of .obj's or .dfx files.
Glenn
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 26 August 2006 at 4:52 PM
Quote - If they ARE coming out with B6 - does this mean that since it's free now (and the sunza beechios should re-imburse me the 50 bucks I plopped down for it just two months ago abouts) - then my extensive .mat and .bsk and .obp files now will NOT work on B6 when it comes out?
Oh no. Don't say that Mugsey! I have a mountain of stuff, that I just have to have working in B6 (If I can afford it when it comes out)
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Sat, 26 August 2006 at 4:54 PM
Quote - Yes, there is no way to get any reasonable content out of ver 5.0. So it will sit on my PC as an interesting program with little or no use. I have Carrara 5 Pro which I got to replace Vue 5 for just this reason. It will import a great many formats and export them as well. This includes all the poser formats. It's really too bad about Bryce as there is a lot of great content for it. I'll give Bryce another try if Daz decides to allow exports of .obj's or .dfx files.
Glenn
I have heard that you WILL be able to export things from Bryce6. Booleans as well!!!
(can't recall what formats they said but I think .obj's were one of them, maybe the only one, but even that's better than nothing - eh?)
AND you can turn the booleans into simple meshes - i.e. just the bit you need - before exporting it!!
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)