I was ban from Renderosity without warning or fair play. I was talking in chat the truth about KAREN1573 a so called respected moderator. Below are a few facts you need to know. If she is not ban from Renderosity then this mail will go out to members.

She has never purchased a copy of the poser soft wear (all hacked copies) but she did get one free for being a moderator.
All plug-in and associated soft wear she has stolen from others and still doing so.
Rips off testing items to distribute on other sites, free or for sale.
She is a member of rival sites and passes on material information concerning Renderosity.

Ask her for proof of purchase for poser products she has, I know she can not prove it because she has never paid for any ever!!!! See your own TOS .

It’s now your choice you can only Ban this name you can’t ban me.

Patrick.

(Patrick2758 Banned) patrick-the-man

dude! build a bridge and get over it!...and quit postin threads...you're cloggin up my inbox

You're asking her to privide proof but what about you! Can you prove what you're saying?

Innocent until "proven" guilty, that's what democracy and freedom are all about!

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.

Sorry guys, this is my ex-husband... :rolleyes:

All relevant proofs of purchase have of course been made available to admin here

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

can we get an IP ban on him? please?

Hopefully Khai, the admins should be getting into work about now.

Unfortunately he's fairly computer literate (yeah I know... just not in English) so he knows how to change to dynamic IP, etc.

We're squashing them as fast as we can ;-)

I guess everyone can see why I am divorcing him :laugh:

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

i'd guess cos he has a tiny winkie :D

and thinking of a restraining order I hope...
(if needed you can take one out to stop him harrassing you here. even being computer litterate won't stop him getting nicked if he breaks that.. )

LOL zollster!

Khai, believe it or not, I'm still trying to keep it amicable, because I want to maintain access to my stepson (lived with me since he was 5 and thinks of me as his mum - he's now 11) and minimise the stress and disruption to him.

This all kicked off last night when I brought my lad back to my ex's after a weekend visit and

If this doesn't stop then I guess I will have to think about restraining orders :sad:

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

lmao a hun got love them ex-husbands lmao i know were you comeing from got one my self LMAO

ooo now the next thing you know you will be a porn start or a phone s&x op that sellers warz out your van in LA

I could not care less what comes out of a ex-husbands trap as i think 90% of all the woman that read this do

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Chin up Karen, it's jerks like this that give us guys a bad name.

Quote - Sorry guys, this is my ex-husband... :rolleyes:

Ahhhh!! Exes!!!!! Been there and done that! :b_rolleyes:

I've never been legally married, but I did live commonlaw for about 5 years (on and off). We were engaged to be married when I broke it off with him at the end of October one year. The following March on the day we were to have been married, I was at my friend's wedding have a blast, LOL

When I broke up with him the dimwit threatened to sue me for "Palimony" because I breached a contract (to marry him), LMAO

The judge would have tossed him out on his ear because the reason I finally left him was because of the physical, mental and emotional abuse.

Some people.....:blink:

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

I wondered why I got 7 zillion thingys in my inbox - I found out the box for emailing me whenever ANYONE posted to the Poser forum was checked (not by me!) I've unchecked it now, so hope all's OK. It threw me a bit cos I'm using a slightly different email proggy

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Now now ladies, being a right Patrick is not the sole domain of us men, but enough of that. Sorry Patrick. But your not going to make any points here. Karen has always been level headed and diplomatic here. She is also liked and known here, Patrick You will only lose the more you continue this.

Heh, oooh he sounds like a real tough guy taking his shots at his ex on a message board thinking we are all just going to lynch Karen. Yup that did it for me! Maybe Karen just got tired of looking for his manhood with a magnifying glass and a pair of tweezers! Póg mo thóin! that's what I'd tell 'em!

Chin up Karen a better life is just ahead!!!

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I'm guessing you aren't in America because this looks like borderline stalking/harrasment. There are laws against that here. This is why I take dirty pictures of all my exes...for future blackmail G

Quote - Sorry guys, this is my ex-husband... :rolleyes:

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And a real sweetheart he is too! The only kitchen whose kashrut I inspect is the one I eat in.
And you sir, I'd strongly advise for you to pick up a copy of Strunk & White's The Elements of Style. Your grammar and and general word use could use some improvement.

Karen, if I were single, I'd propose to you right now. Noli nothis permittere te terere. (Don't let the bastards wear you down.)
Yours truly,
David P. Hoadley

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I guess most of us have a nightmare ex in our closets and a tale or two to tell!

Bless you all, I am actually getting quite choked at all the support here and in IMs. He has been IP banned now so hopefully that's it for today...

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

Karen just hang in there. The boy knows how you feel and he will be old enough to come see you on his own before too long. Sheeesh, I had and ex that was a jerk too...had to leave the state to get away from him.

wow!! this is quite strange!! sorry this is happening to you Karen. i hope this doesn't affect the relationship between you and your boy!!

when the shit hits the fan...

that karen has our sympathy is a fact and out of doubt. this does not mean that we are in any position to judge. we may frown upon rude behaviour, but it´s not for us to cut this guy down.

my best wishes, karen, for you , for the kid, for your ex.

Andi

Shame, I was hoping we could all gang up on him & flame him out of existence for you ;)

There's many words to describe him but I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to post them

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I've worked with ya sugar and I can vouch for ya!

You're OK in my book, for an English lass that is!!

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.

amacord is right lets not attack her ex while giving her support...it could make it worse for her ...remember her stepson etc. as for injunctions..i think they cost about a grand karen. or he has to be taken to court for committing an offence against you. which this of course is....but as you say. better to calm troubled waters when ever its possible.

billy

Quote - I guess most of us have a nightmare ex in our closets and a tale or two to tell!

Bless you all, I am actually getting quite choked at all the support here and in IMs. He has been IP banned now so hopefully that's it for today...

isn't this what a community is supposed to like...nice to see when it happens.

billy

ps...wasn't i right about not deleting the post lol :)

I'm not attacking anyone today ;)

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Some men just can't take strong woman, and you my dear are strong....you go girl....Sharen

I had a bad experience like you're having too. Sorry you are going through this rough time. It will all pass. Your stepson won't forget you. You will move on, and new opportunities will come your way.

I'm sorry you are undergoing this harassement Karen. I hope things work out sucessfully for you.

ah, X's.... can't live with them, can't tie them to an anchor and drop them into the Straits of Valdez. but that's just me. as a guy, I can only say that Patrick doesn't know what he's on about, lashing out and looking the fool for doing so...... stay strong, stay smart, everytime he lashes out, just nod and smile and take notes. we're here for ya. and unless you've made other plans, have a great day! life is like juggling 3 rabid badgers, if you don't get torn up in the process, it's a beautiful thing!

now, see this is why I pick different hobbies from my ex-wife..;) he's giving ex-husbands a bad name..

nil carborundum illegitimus est - I thought that was it..whatever..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

Sheesh Karen I'm sorry you are dealing with this all out here in public that really stinks! On a side note, I have two exes lol one married legal like and one common law lol so I can "really" feel for ya. :blink:

Karen -- ya know You gots huggles from me.

Hell, I even came in and posted!

Thank you all for your support.

I was able to talk to Patrick on the phone last night and after a couple of hours he relented on being able to see my stepson... He is going to let me have him next Monday and all the following weekend

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

Good news Karen, Good luck with all that!

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.

WTG Karen! Glad that you've settled things - hope it continues. If your ex chucks the toys out of his pram again, just pat him on the head and say "there, there". Dork!!!!! (or is that an insult to P4's hunky bloke, lol)

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Quote - Thank you all for your support.

I was able to talk to Patrick on the phone last night and after a couple of hours he relented on being able to see my stepson... He is going to let me have him next Monday and all the following weekend

That's great news! The poor boy shouldn't be caught in the middle of adult disputes. I'm glad that he's seeing this and is doing what is best for your son :)

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

i really hope that in the future he's a bit more reasonable than he's shown here. just as everyone's has an unreasonable ex in their past, most have a stupid, make an ass of themselves over their ex moment, too. so there's hope. it's great you still get to see your stepson. i wish you and your family well, and i hope and your ex get to the separate but calm stage soon. you seem like you're there already, but he's got some dealing to do.

Karen, my sympathy goes out to you.

Incidentally, is his English really that bad, or is it a guise?

Yes, his written English is very poor and his vocabulary is limited (his emails to me rely heavily on swearwords LOL) - combination of dyslexia and poor schooling...

Thanks to all for support :-)

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

Good luck Karen, hope things work out for you & your stepson.

Greetings all.

I will not respond to all the crap above with the exception of 2 members.

Stacey or any of the others can’t ban me or anyone from this site they can’t even ban a simple I.P

TOS

Yes you are all right in what you are saying in other threads about the TOS on this site they favour the money spinners and not you’re average Jo Blogs. How to sort it? Simple set up a committee with 12 members and 1 chair person (Members only over 1 year and no admin staff) you decide on the TOS within the laws of the state and check out the laws. All warnings to be lifted everyone starts a new on the new TOS.

Also an online check list, each model has a name; an age is given to that model and says if it can contain nudity, also a selection of pictures that are considered boarder line. I guess you will have more to add to the list.

This is your site and Renderosity and Bond wear are happy to make the rules and take 50% of your profit so you should have 50% of the say. A lot of “Artists” are in breach of the TOS including VOM with Naked Nymph I don’t care what anyone says that is a naked child and possibly more in his gallery. So you see the staff have favourites on this site it’s up to you to sort it out or find a new site with a better quality of service and RESPECT for ALL members. If the mods do not agree then it shows they have no interest in you and lose money, they make enough anyway don’t let that be long term on your work. Oh and U.K vendors do you pay Tax on earnings on this site? Or charge Vat? You all need to take a close look at the Inland Revenue web sites the Tax Man is on his way here so don’t get caught out.

Guess This name get Banned again lol

We don't usually solicit advice on how to run the site from the embittered ex-spouses of staff who have never visited the site prior to divorce proceedings :rolleyes:

Guess This name get Banned again lol

Well, you got that part right.

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

So, I guess the poor dear is bored...no wrestling on television today I guess? :rolleyes:

Nah, he's not into wrestling, he prefers the Hallmark channel usually (honest!)

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

y'know.. in some sick and twisted way this is almost like watching a sitcom...
Geez, Karen. Good thing you got rid of THAT.

Well if nothing else it's sure providing fodder for a future novel or magazine columns :laugh:

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

Karen, now more than ever you've increased in Sainthood in my eyes! Not only do you allways treat ME fairly (Even when I've been annoying as hell and know it), but you put up with being married to THAT for however many years! You keep on being you and we'll all keep loving you for it!

Whether or not this guy has any justification for being disgruntled only he and Karen can possibly know. His method of handling his issues publicly like this however sure makes him look like a di*k. You Gettim Karen.

I take it the divorce was not amicable! LOL!

It is also easy to guess why the relation went south, so to say... the fact he is still alive says more about you then his actions do about him!

You know under some of the new laws, (not sure if it is State or Fed) that consitutes Harassment. Even under old laws, this might qualify. (Some States allow you to get Restraining Orders of the Virtual Environment. I would look into it!) Send his butt to jail for posting in a Forum or sending an e-mail.

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Yeah, I'm looking into a possible case for restraining order, but I can't get legal aid since I work hard and long hours, and he of course will get legal aid since he doesn't work. I'm saving my money towards funding my case for a contact order with my stepson instead as that's more of a concern.

I've dealt with a lot bigger and nastier bullies than him so the email/forum thing doesn't really work anyway :rolleyes:

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

Quote - I will not respond to all the crap above with the exception of 2 members.

Lucky me!! I made his list of "exceptions." Why I'm not sure

Karen, I feel for you :) I'm not really sure what he feels he's gaining by doing this. But unfortunately some people (both men and women) sometimes revert to childish tactics during a breakup. I've never really understood that. I used to work as a paralegal and dealt with many divorces, and I can attest to the fact that there are many bitter people out there that try to stick it to their ex-spouse.

Karen, I'm glad to see that you are trying to handle this in a mature way and do what is best for your son, instead of taking the low road.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - amacord is right lets not attack her ex while giving her support

LOL That's not necessary either. He's doing all the damage to himself, all by himself. I'm sorry for Karen, but actually I'm mostly amused at the git. If he think he'll gain support here.. well it just shows his sense of judgement...

And that has nothing to do with attacking anyone. That's just stating facts L

i was the other "exception" Acadia, still curious why, but don't want to stir things for Karen.

can't remember their full title (type of lawyer/barrister), but it is starting to sound like "family court" matter might be needed, to settle a contact order, with regards to your son. as far as i am aware, all legal advice is free for the first half hour.But you will want to find a lawyer that specializes in family court proceedings. Good luck Karen, hope it all smoothes out in the end.

Where I live you don't need a lawyer to get a restraining order, you can do it on your own by going to the Law Courts Building, filling out some forms, paying a filing fee and then appearing in court on the date given to you to present your case.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Karen, call the police. In the US, he would be arrested for stalking. Can't Rosity ban him???

Apart from the ridiculousness of this whole situation....if you do want to keep having access to your stepson, make sure it is all spelled out legally, and dont rely on good will.

My ex assured me I would always have access to my daughter, and even though I have all the legal court documents assuring me acces, I still havnt seen my daughter in 4 years :(

(because she is now 16 and the police cannot "force" her to go against her mothers wishes shrug)

Divorce is never fun....just make sure you keep yourself covered.

you know one thing that really frustrates me is the fact that when a couple divorce, they get selfish. fortunately enough for me, my ex-husband and i agreed that once divorce, it is not about us anymore but our two daughters. he and i work hard on each end to give both of them the love, the emotional security and two good homes for my daughters to call theirs. it is not about you nor is it about this man...it is about the step son. you are going about it the right way karen, his demeanor sure doesn't say much about his character except for the fact that he is an arse. pity the kid is not your real son hon. i will be rooting for you and hope that he will see the light someday soon and figure out that through all these, the son is there watching and when he's old enough to finally find his voice to tell him just how stupid his dad is - he will.

Boy, I really wish we lived in a world were I could say..

"Give me his address, and this issue would be history!"

Karen, you have my support - and watch yer back!

JP

ok..who pulled the stake out of the heart of this thread?..;)

amicable divorce fits somewhere between 'military intelligence', and 'civil war'..

And as for the IP bit, heck, Machiavelli says 'never do your enemy a small injury'..

Politicians say, 'if your opponent is digging himself into a hole, best stand back, say nothing, and enjoy the show..

Man, as one divorced guy to another, give it up. Been there, didn't do me any good either.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

maybe we should have an ex's forum lmao. now that would be fun hehe

billy

Yeah, I'm looking into a possible case for restraining order, but I can't get legal aid since I work hard and long hours, and he of course will get legal aid since he doesn't work. I'm saving my money towards funding my case for a contact order with my stepson instead as that's more of a concern.

:lol: Renderosity wins over STEP SON Now how sad is that? Tell them karen1573 how you was on your pc for these dick heads 24/7 with no care or thought for your STEP SON? But I guess thats beyond you to tell the truth.

Instead of replying, it would be better to ignore this pathetic trolling.

Aww now play nice.
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"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

no no Karen!
let him continue.... then take the records along with you to the hearings... ;)

What hearing? Bless the U.K we have rights unlike the Yanks lol

I am talking about the UK. I'm from the UK ;)
but please carry on.. the records, (your postings, IP Adress, etc) will give Karen a lot of ammo....

so...please. carry on

Yeah, now I just have to save up enough cash to start legal proceedings.

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

We could start a collection.... a 'Nail the Asshole to the Wall' collection.

if the police were to be called in to investigate a case of stalking and harrasment, and upon visiting the house of the accused, were to find someone drunk and in charge of a minor, then social services would be called in also. If with the charge of harrasment and stalking, and drunk whilst in charge of a minor, social services may choose to take that person to court under the mental health act, and neglect of a minor, with a view to removing the minor from that persons care, there would be no court costs to Karen as it would be social services Vs neglectfull parent, karen could then come forward as a candidate for custodial guardianship of minor, as an alternative to foster care.

just my two pence!!

Quote - We could start a collection.... a 'Nail the Asshole to the Wall' collection.

I'd donate :) I'm sure others would who could as well. That idea needs some serious consideration.

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Might I suggest to Renderosity to enforce admin approval for new users? Would end this senseless crap from this person. As well it would provide Renderosity with proof of his actions as the emails he sends and different email addresses he uses to try to join can be used to show his ISP if further action needs to be taken.

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I loved the comments about the Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise. No we don't charge VAT as vendors through Bondware and you know what we can't charge VAT unless our total PER ANNUM takings are over a certain level, I want to say £100k but I'm not sure. Also, as far as the tax office is concerned very few of us would be liable for taxable because every time we spend money on something connected with creating items we sell through the RMP it is TAX DEDUCTIBLE. Can't speak for other vendors of course but I would be very surprised if anyone here earns enough, per annum to charge VAT and that isn't actually deep into the red when you take all your purchases off the sales figure. Nice try but next time consult an accountant before you open your mouth.

Good Luck Karen!

Oh deary deary me.. is this fucknut STILL whining like a little schoolgirl with a skinned knee? Christ almighty.. this spanner reminds me of the very reason I skipped the island.

Ex's ... can't live with 'em, can't smack them in the face with a garden spade.

imho theres only one thing more disgusting than a man doing the macho-talk...

Hmm.. a man threatening and terrorising a woman maybe? A man holding a child as an emotional hostage perhaps...?

Nah. My money's on a woman who draws the line and says enough's enough.

Not such a humble opinion, eh?

humble or not, 1:0, my score! chuckles

:rolleyes:

Simple things....

sigh the behaviour of whatever-his-name-might-be in front of this community as well as twards karen is inacceptable and cannot be tolerated. amen. BUT: the reaction of some members of this community (that includes you, DarkStarBurning) is by no means better than his misbehaving (and is accordingly unworthy to be called civilized). lets take a look at the TOS... Members/Users will not use this community for; ... ... - Personal attacks. This includes but is not limited to, destructive, abusive, defamatory communications in any form, and retaliatory attacks from personal attacks. If you need assistance, please communicate with someone from our Renderosity Team. - Destructive commentary/communications made with the intent to disrupt or attack (Trolling). This applies to any communications within this community, whether in the forums, art galleries, graffiti wall, chat, or IM. ... dear members of the renderosity team! im awfully sorry to bother you with this, but i have to report that a number of members of this community (including DarkStarBurning) have obviously violated your TOS by posting comments which were insulting, discriminating and otherwise aggressive. since you are carefully monitoring the forums there is no need to add a namelist here (plus: im too lazy). i am sure you will act according to your TOS: Members/Users found practicing these behaviors receive; Deletion of the post/s. First event - warning by email and/or IM. Second event - Forum Suspension for 1 or 7 days or Temporary Community ban for 3 or 7 days. Third event - Membership revoked, and access to the community permanently blocked. This includes any duplicate accounts for the same person. Renderosity considers this information private and confidential. However, there may be certain situations that necessitate otherwise. arent all men equal? rgds Andi ps: i would like to repeat what i said on the first page of this thread... that karen has our sympathy is a fact and out of doubt. this does not mean that we are in any position to judge. we may frown upon rude behaviour, but its not for us to cut this guy down. my best wishes, karen, for you , for the kid, for your ex.

"...on your pc for these dick heads 24/7 with..."
Is calling us all "dick heads" (sic) slander or libel, or just downright rude...I can never remember? ~ROFL~

Best of luck Karen, and just remember everyone, it's really bad form to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man ;¬)

The liver is evil - It must be punished.

Why hasn't this thread been locked??????????

I may not post often here but have been a member for more years than my memory caters for,but from all the thousands of threads i have read i realise that Karen is not anything like the person this pat man is talking about. he is obviously a child and needs to grow up.

I hope all goes well sorting this out Karen,and it wont effect my views on you or rosity.

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.

and that's one of the things ya gotta deal with..who gets custody of the friends..;) sounds like this is her corner, son (I'm a really old f*rt..I can get away with saying that. Anyone born under 48 stars..;). Lurk, be nice, but the deck is stacked in this 'ol neck of the woods.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

ROFL

Yeah, TOS me heheheh

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a life to attend to :)

still here? anyway...2:0, s.b.

Hi folks,

I thank everyone for their support.

In the last few days, I have been able to talk to Pat civilly again, which is excellent news as he has "reopened" access to my stepson.

In order not to spoil this entente cordiale and by way of hoping to draw a line under things, I'm going to lock the thread.

Again I do thank all for their support, it has really helped me during this difficult time to know that my integrity is respected.

Karen :-)

"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire

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